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p.2012 #1 · p.2012 #1 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


As the weather was so nice I snapped a pic looking back at the Cairns Esplanade from the start of the marina area on the point.

and yes, it was wide open on the 200/2

Changed the profile in LR to Velvia/Vivid, no PP.

Forget the Zf get a Fuji ! Love the files the GFX produces.

DSCF5687 by Andy Macdougall, on Flickr

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Sep 24, 2023 at 03:23 AM
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And the shot of the Italian restaurant sign but processed more to my liking and also changed the profile from Acros+R to straight Acros ) as it seemed to give a smoother rendering to the OOF sky top left.

DSCF5679-2 by Andy Macdougall, on Flickr

and a bit of old wharf

DSCF5694-Edit by Andy Macdougall, on Flickr



Sep 24, 2023 at 03:42 AM
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p.2012 #3 · p.2012 #3 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


GeorgeBo wrote:
IF I was only going to use the small prime Z lenses like the 40, 28, or 26 then probably a slam dunk or IF I did not have a cabinet full of excellent legacy F mount manual focus lenses. But to be a primary manual focus shooter, I think I will have the same issue I had with the Zfc body. The required size of an adapter to shoot manual focus lenses. And even with CPU chipped lenses like the 45p or modified chipped lenses you still cannot use the aperture ring on the lens to control aperture. You
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Ok, I understand what you are saying, but the one thing I don't understand is why you can't use the aperture ring. Heck, even I use the aperture rings on my little Fuji with adaptors. I'm sorry to be so dense, can you explain one more time what I'm obviously missing?



Sep 24, 2023 at 04:42 AM
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mjgphotoz wrote:
Leighton, I really, really like the ergonomics, looks, and layout of the Zf. I already have the 28 and 40 SE lens and love them. I really love how my Z6ii works with them both in studio and for walkabout, ie kinda like a Z750 if you will. They are modern and not just in appearance and I can use my MF lens + FTZ with the Z6ii if I choose. It is my walkabout choice at this time.

The Df used F mount lens with no adapter and worked great at that. The images were very pleasing to me and
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I have dreamed of a modern Nikon mirrorless with IBIS and a F-Mount. The more I learn of the Zf, the more I'm thinking no thank you, I'll pass.



Sep 24, 2023 at 04:44 AM
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That only applies to cpu chipped lenses with the FTZ. On older Nikon DSLRs you could select to either use the aperture ring to set aperture or you could control aperture via the command dial on the body and set the aperture ring to minimum aperture.

On the Z bodies you do not have a choice. When using a CPUíd lens with the FTZ you have to set the lens to minimum aperture and control the aperture via the body only. Otherwise you get and fEE error. Even if if the body is set to full manual mode. So not really a specific Zf flaw because it is like that for any Z body. But was hoping the Zf features would be difference given its ďretroĒ design. Plus the fact that none of the Z lenses have aperture rings anyway

Any other non-cpu adapted lens you just do stop down shooting and use the aperture ring as normal. Like you do on your Fuji.

Just personal preference.



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Ok, I understand what you are saying, but the one thing I don't understand is why you can't use the aperture ring. Heck, even I use the aperture rings on my little Fuji with adaptors. I'm sorry to be so dense, can you explain one more time what I'm obviously missing?





Sep 24, 2023 at 04:58 AM
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p.2012 #6 · p.2012 #6 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


Ah yes, the Longfellow Bridge, Mass Eye and Ear, and the Charles St Jail...

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Another one with the 500mm f4.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53208406070_d2f0ab4248_b.jpg_DSC6213_600 by Regina, on Flickr





Sep 24, 2023 at 06:15 AM
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And I still love Star Trek in most of its iterations...

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About Leonard Nimoy, he received an honorary doctorate from Boston University. I did not know he was from the West End. When I was very young, I loved Star Trek.





Sep 24, 2023 at 06:18 AM
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Ruffled Fan Palm



-Jay- © HCE HCE 2023




Sep 24, 2023 at 06:38 AM
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Can I be the first to say, just shoot everything wide open as the Nikon MF Gods intended !

Seriously though, everything is a compromise. We are so spoilt now. Look at any thread discussing new cameras and there are hundreds of people bitching about why they aren't going to buy the particular new release as they would have liked a b c etc., usually features that are either impractical, uneconomic or super niche things only a handful of people would want.
I don't mean to criticise, ultimately we are never going to get a mirrorless body with a native F mount as you need an adapter to make up the correct sensor to flange distance.
It would be nice to get exif recorded but let's be honest, the fact that you still mount the old lenses at all is pretty cool.
The ftz ii is much better than the first version, hopefully a version iii might record aperture?
Nikon just want to sell you new Z mount lenses at the end of the day.
Besides that, how can you hold a body with NO grip like the Zf ?

Discuss ! (I'm just stirring the pot, btw, I have zero intention of buying one )



Sep 24, 2023 at 06:40 AM
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GeorgeBo wrote:
That only applies to cpu chipped lenses with the FTZ. On older Nikon DSLRs you could select to either use the aperture ring to set aperture or you could control aperture via the command dial on the body and set the aperture ring to minimum aperture.

On the Z bodies you do not have a choice. When using a CPUíd lens with the FTZ you have to set the lens to minimum aperture and control the aperture via the body only. Otherwise you get and fEE error. Even if if the body is set to full manual mode. So not really
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That's where my problem was, chipped lenses. I guess I'm good to go being that I don't own any that are chipped. Thanks!



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Okay Leighton, you can accidentally hit that link now.


leighton w wrote:
That's where my problem was, chipped lenses. I guess I'm good to go being that I don't own any that are chipped. Thanks!





Sep 24, 2023 at 06:59 AM
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leighton w wrote:
That's where my problem was, chipped lenses. I guess I'm good to go being that I don't own any that are chipped. Thanks!


So Leighton, since you are already operating on stopped down metering with the Fuji adapted Nikon, you're good to go with the Zf. Only other thing I am not sure about is if that Fuji adapter reads the set aperture on the non-CPU Nikon lens, and then records it with the image. That's a big missing piece with the Nikon FTZ adapter (or any existing available adapter). If does not seem that would that big of a deal for Nikon to address; provide power to the FTZ v3, have an aperture following tab/ring to read the set aperture on the non-CPU lens, translate that info to the image like it would for a lens equipped with a CPU.

In the end I think most people know, Nikon wants to sell native Z lenses. In addition, if they made such an FTZ v3 with the feature I described, I'd may still just opt to but the adapter and use it with my existing Z bodies, though this mythical adapter would make the Zf extremely attractive to me personally. I don't mind the required FTZ adapter, though I agree with most that it does not mesh well aesthetically with classic NFMG.

I agree with Andy, we are spoilt enough these days that a lot of wishes are just that, niche wishes. But hey, we are a niche group?

Anyway, too many words, so here's an image to make up for it. I guess I was not done with the night shots after all, 85mm H.









Sep 24, 2023 at 08:24 AM
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Rafael, so happy to see that you found a way to make that collector item a strong useful item as well.

Andy, I'm enjoying your explorations wide open with that 200. Keep them coming.





Sep 24, 2023 at 08:28 AM
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mjgphotoz wrote:
Leighton, I really, really like the ergonomics, looks, and layout of the Zf. I already have the 28 and 40 SE lens and love them. I really love how my Z6ii works with them both in studio and for walkabout, ie kinda like a Z750 if you will. They are modern and not just in appearance and I can use my MF lens + FTZ with the Z6ii if I choose. It is my walkabout choice at this time.

The Df used F mount lens with no adapter and worked great at that. The images were very pleasing to me and
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Itís a matter of choosing which parts of each of the two (maybe three?) worlds to cling to. I donít even fully understand all my own preferences and sensibilities - some of my choices arenít fully rational. The Nikkor 28 and 40 Z SE lenses look the part and perform adequately, but I hate the plastic construction and adjusting focus and aperture ďby wireĒ. They are a fairly good match for the Zfc, but I think for the Zf, I will want something more substantial. I like the old MF Nikkors, and donít mind (even prefer) manual focus, but the lack of integration with the features of the Z cameras can be annoying.

I recently bought a Voigtlander 50/2 in Z mount and the moment I mounted it on a Z body, the stars aligned for me. Focusing is a joy with green box focus confirmation and focus peaking in the viewfinder, mechanical focusing and aperture selection on the lens, full communication with the camera for exposure and EXIF, and solid, substantial construction and reasonable size. And the images are pleasing to me (I wonít mention controversial things like 3D pop.) Not that the Nikkor 50/1.8 S is a bad lens, aside from being bulky and totally electronic, it just doesnít make me smile as broadly. It will be interesting to see what the Zf adds to that experience (eye detect for manual focus).

I can see myself with two cameras in the future, a Z8 with Nikkor Z zooms, and a Zf with a variety of manual focus primes, including some MF Nikkors. I would not miss any of my DSLR bodies or AFS or AFD Nikkor lenses, assuming I ever actually get around to selling them. One of the reasons Iím ready to let go is the IBIS of the full frame Z cameras that works with any lens - Iím completely spoiled by that one feature. Which also means the Zfc has to go.





Sep 24, 2023 at 08:43 AM
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pbraymond wrote:
So Leighton, since you are already operating on stopped down metering with the Fuji adapted Nikon, you're good to go with the Zf. Only other thing I am not sure about is if that Fuji adapter reads the set aperture on the non-CPU Nikon lens, and then records it with the image. That's a big missing piece with the Nikon FTZ adapter (or any existing available adapter). If does not seem that would that big of a deal for Nikon to address; provide power to the FTZ v3, have an aperture following tab/ring to read the set aperture on the
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Ray, my Fuji camera does not read any metadata. The only thing it will show is the focal length whish I have to input. Not as nice as when I had my D600, but at least my lenses work on it.



Sep 24, 2023 at 08:43 AM
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p.2012 #16 · p.2012 #16 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


This is particularly true of the longer focal lengths >200mm, but using the hood becomes even more crucial to good contrast.

cadman342001 wrote:
Can I be the first to say, just shoot everything wide open as the Nikon MF Gods intended !





Sep 24, 2023 at 09:10 AM
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More with the D850 ,85mm f1.4 ais and the TC. In a 1970 trip to Spain Ė my father picked up a stack of these silver dollar sized 100 PTAS coins. He made many jewelry pieces with them, and this was my motherís bracelet which formed to her wrist over the years.









Sep 24, 2023 at 09:20 AM
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chatcher wrote:
Itís a matter of choosing which parts of each of the two (maybe three?) worlds to cling to. I donít even fully understand all my own preferences and sensibilities - some of my choices arenít fully rational. The Nikkor 28 and 40 Z SE lenses look the part and perform adequately, but I hate the plastic construction and adjusting focus and aperture ďby wireĒ. They are a fairly good match for the Zfc, but I think for the Zf, I will want something more substantial. I like the old MF Nikkors, and donít mind (even prefer) manual focus, but the
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You bring up some very good points. I love the Voightlander 40/2 F mount I have, and it is a joy to shoot. What I said regarding Nikon creating Z manual focus lens IMO would apply to Voightlander Z mounts also. This will/would be wonderful, and I will/would likely own some, but this still has no bearing on being able to use our old MF lens' on the Zf without an adapter. (I cannot imagine Nikon ever creating such lens' at this point either.) The adapter works for me and I have no real issues regarding the esthetics of using the FTZIIs I have. The questions becomes, if I have to do so, or purchase new Z mount lens', why purchase the Zf at this time when I can already use all my Z mount lens' or F mount lens' with adapter on the current Z cameras I have? The Z8 is a stunning beast I just paid 4K for. Do I want to spend 2K more for another camera at this point? I would likely have kept my Df if it had 24 megapixels, just strictly for use with my MF lens', and would have never sold it if it had the same ergonomics/button layout of the new Zf, regardless of the pixel count. When Leighton asked my reasons for my reluctance to jump on the Zf, it forced me to articulate my thoughts and it actually really clarified for me, to me, what my hesitation was. Please note, this does not preclude my changing my mind at a future day! We gals can change our minds if we choose!

Mary



Sep 24, 2023 at 10:30 AM
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mjgphotoz wrote:
You bring up some very good points. I love the Voightlander 40/2 F mount I have, and it is a joy to shoot. What I said regarding Nikon creating Z manual focus lens IMO would apply to Voightlander Z mounts also. This will/would be wonderful, and I will/would likely own some, but this still has no bearing on being able to use our old MF lens' on the Zf without an adapter. (I cannot imagine Nikon ever creating such lens' at this point either.) The adapter works for me and I have no real issues regarding the esthetics of using
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The Zf I pre-ordered will replace my Z5. Ignoring autofocus, since weíre talking MF here, what is the justification for spending the money to upgrade from a Z5, let alone a Z6 or Z6ii? I canít justify it for any real reason other thanÖ I want it.



Sep 24, 2023 at 10:59 AM
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Fall has started, but we still have some flowers. 200mm f4 micro.

_DSC6314_603 by Regina, on Flickr

_DSC6311_602 by Regina, on Flickr



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