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My best and most loyal friend

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr166/marjnap/Creative/BeanAndMe.jpg

Does the color look too yellow? - Edited version now posted. I think I got the WB right now.

“We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It’s the best deal man has ever made.”
M. Facklam

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Canon 7D
ISO:200
F2.8
50mm
Flash

Edited on Apr 24, 2010 at 08:31 PM · View previous versions
Apr 22, 2010 at 10:24 PM
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marjnap wrote:
Does the color look too yellow?


Cute dog, and your joy with him is obvious!

The photo definitely has strong yellow tones as viewed on my calibrated monitor. And if that's a white blouse you're wearing, then the image is way too yellow. :-) I'm sure it's a yellow blouse! Did you use anything for white balance (WB)? If not, you're trusting your camera to get it right (which can happen on occasion), or your eyes. Visually trying to correct for WB for skin tones is a nightmare. Color will appear differently depending on what you're comparing it to. I've seen skin tones look fine until you see them adjacent a color corrected image, then suddenly you see the red, or green, or blues. Skin is so hard to match on guesswork. What color is your blouse, the wall, and the chair? if your colors are off then that gives you a better idea what's wrong.

A good demonstration of why you can't trust your eyes to adjust color. I bought a WhiBal but I don't like it as much as a larger gray card. I do carry it with me and use it though.
http://whibalhost.com/_Tutorials/WhiBal/08/index.html
Apr 23, 2010 at 11:29 AM
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Apr 23, 2010 at 01:30 PM
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Beverly, I feel your pain on the small gray cards. I have one and it's really annoying using it in a non-setup shot. Especially when I'm shooting someone outside with an 85 which has a minimum focus distance of about a meter. What kind of large card are you using?
Apr 23, 2010 at 07:10 PM
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tech_joshua wrote:
Beverly, I feel your pain on the small gray cards. I have one and it's really annoying using it in a non-setup shot. Especially when I'm shooting someone outside with an 85 which has a minimum focus distance of about a meter. What kind of large card are you using?

I have one of the 18% gray cards I got at a camera store, it's about 8x10. I also have the xRite color Checker swatches in an 8x10 or larger. Both seem to be pretty accurate. I shoot with the 85, too. I know WhiBal makes a "studio" size. The Canon lens ignore everything but the focal point for WB anyway, so whatever you focus on gives you the right reading. I just think the WhiBal and the ExpoDisc read very warm with my MK5d2.
Apr 23, 2010 at 09:48 PM
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I agree on the digital gray cards being warm. Every one I've tried is too warm, especially when I start hammering the tone curves and contrast. everything gets yellow quickly. I always end up dropping the temp 500 degrees or so in lightroom. So you've had good luck with wb using the old standard 18% cards? I just might grab a big one.
Apr 23, 2010 at 10:34 PM
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marjnap wrote:
Does the color look too yellow?

Yes, but it matters very little in this case as the capture of moment is perfect and the friendship it oozes makes it a minor point IMHO.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


Apr 24, 2010 at 10:05 AM
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marjnap wrote:
Does the color look too yellow?

Just question, though others have provided great solutions. In addition, if proper equipment is out of your range, a simple temp shift in post-production will correct the tones to your liking.


Yakim Peled wrote:
Yes, but it matters very little...

Bad advice on a photography forum, IMHO. Especially since we're all here to share, learn and improve concept, technique, execution, and interpretation.
Apr 24, 2010 at 11:52 AM
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warm pic.
is it Labrador Retriever ?
I always thinking to have a Labrador or golden retriever.

happy shooting.


Apr 24, 2010 at 03:17 PM
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Beverly Guhl wrote:
Cute dog, and your joy with him is obvious!

The photo definitely has strong yellow tones as viewed on my calibrated monitor. And if that's a white blouse you're wearing, then the image is way too yellow. :-) I'm sure it's a yellow blouse! Did you use anything for white balance (WB)? If not, you're trusting your camera to get it right (which can happen on occasion), or your eyes. Visually trying to correct for WB for skin tones is a nightmare. Color will appear differently depending on what you're comparing it to. I've seen skin tones look fine...Show more →

Thank you for the wonderful information. I appropriate it. I shoot in RAW so I'm going to mess with the color, but it would be much better and less time consuming to get it right in the camera. The blouse is yellow, BTW. I calibrate my monitor, but I use an icc profile for photos in DPP. I think this is throwing my colors off when I upload them. I probably should use the calibration profile when I'm going to upload them and use the photo icc profile just for prints.



Apr 24, 2010 at 07:34 PM
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Yakim Peled wrote:
Yes, but it matters very little in this case as the capture of moment is perfect and the friendship it oozes makes it a minor point IMHO.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Thank you Yakim. I do love my dog with all my heart, even with the WB off.


Apr 24, 2010 at 07:37 PM
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Skarkowtsky wrote:
Just question, though others have provided great solutions. In addition, if proper equipment is out of your range, a simple temp shift in post-production will correct the tones to your liking.


Bad advice on a photography forum, IMHO. Especially since we're all here to share, learn and improve concept, technique, execution, and interpretation.


Thank you for all for the great advice. I will upload a new version with with a shift in WB/temp change.



Apr 24, 2010 at 07:39 PM
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photobenz wrote:
warm pic.
is it Labrador Retriever ?
I always thinking to have a Labrador or golden retriever.

happy shooting.

Actually he is a Chihuahua mix. Labs are great, a few come to the dog park we go to. They are usually the most laid back dogs.



Apr 24, 2010 at 07:43 PM
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Skarkowtsky wrote:
Bad advice on a photography forum, IMHO. Especially since we're all here to share, learn and improve concept, technique, execution, and interpretation.

While I absolutely agree with you in general, I try to look at this cup as half full, rather than half empty. Most pictures can be criticized to one degree or another. Few are perfect in all accounts. It's just that in this specific pic I see more positive sides than negative ones.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.


Apr 25, 2010 at 06:17 AM
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Great shot, made me laugh. Yik, big tongue....I used to have a shepard that gave kisses. lol.

Y
Apr 25, 2010 at 09:10 AM
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Dog germs, yuk! (and I'm a dog lover, too...) Good entry for the theme, there is friendship and love portrayed in this slobbery display of affection of a photo. Good luck!

David
Apr 26, 2010 at 07:28 PM
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Great shot, made me laugh. Yik, big tongue....I used to have a shepard that gave kisses. lol. Y

He does have the Gene Simmons tongue of the doggy world and is a little Romeo with all his kisses

Dog germs, yuk! (and I'm a dog lover, too...) Good entry for the theme, there is friendship and love portrayed in this slobbery display of affection of a photo. Good luck! David

! Thank you David.
Apr 26, 2010 at 08:02 PM
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Much better color now. Yes, getting it right in camera is the way to go, especially for skin tones. Adults, babies, kids, all have different skin tones; babies have more magenta in their skin, for example.


Apr 26, 2010 at 10:49 PM





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