Yea, I think your on top somewhere bacilonur. I did my pre-order 30 mins after the Einstein pre-order page went up. So I'm back in line a ways(but I think I can see you )
Paul, I'll take 3 (of the 12) beat up ones, if they still flash, and I can get them early and at a discount
You know, floor models are usually 60% off or something
Paul - I have a set of CSR+ which plug into the line. I am using them with my X1600's. I was told by your tech guys that the uncontroled flash popping can come from a bad ground line or plugging into a power strip or with a flourscent light in the system. One of all those was true for me so problem was solved.
My question is do you know if the Einstein's with the newer style plug in CXRCV receivers be immune from any of these line issues?
Cphoto1954 wrote:
Paul - I have a set of CSR+ which plug into the line. I am using them with my X1600's. I was told by your tech guys that the uncontroled flash popping can come from a bad ground line or plugging into a power strip or with a flourscent light in the system. One of all those was true for me so problem was solved.
My question is do you know if the Einstein's with the newer style plug in CXRCV receivers be immune from any of these line issues?
Thanks in advance!
Einstein should be completely free of any such anomalies. Great care was taken in this regard in the design.
photomarvin wrote:
just in time for Christmas
2011.
I kid, I kid....I'm sure they'll be out someday soon. Just hope people haven't been missing out on photo opportunities because they're sitting on their hands waiting for these lights!
If I decide to go for these, I doubt I'll lose a single dollar on the 2nd hand Ranger RX I bought 18m ago.
The PCB wireless setup will be so much nicer, but the strobes aren't even rated for a slight sprinkle... (discussed before, I know). I guess I could put them inside 50" Westcot Apollo thingys.
Paul Buff wrote:
Almost, but not quite. CC can meter each light separately, and/or can meter any group of lights (8 different groups - you put whatever lights in the group that you want - and it can also meter the whole set of lights that your camera will see when you fire. All metering is incident mode and is independent of other metering modes.
You can name each light IE Main left, Fill Right, Hair 1, etc.
In normal use, CC displays all 16 possible lights in terms of power settings and by the f stop you metered for each. in 16 channel bargraph form. Say you do a guess setup, then meter say main = f8 6/10, fill f4 2/10,etc. If you really want main = f8 0/10 and fill = f 5.6 0/10. You just select main and you will see a digital readout of the f8 6/10. Just click it down until it reads f 8 0/10 - no need to re meter - just dial it in. Go to the Fill and read the f4 2/10 you first metered . . . click it up to the f5.6 0/10 you wanted. Your done,
Now select ALL and take a reading of all lights. Say you get f 8 3/10, but you really want to shoot at f8 . . . while in ALL, just click the power down until you get f8. What happens is that each individual light drops by 3/10 f . . . keeping exactly the same balance betweens the lights but getting the f8 total you want. In this example, the main you had set to f8 drops to f5.6 7/10 and the fill you had set at f5.6 drops to f4 7/10. Want to do the same shot at f11? Just go back to ALL and raise the f stop to f11 . . . all the lights raise their power by 1f and you're ready to shoot at f11.
If you want to see what a particular group of lights looks like and what the contribute to the f exposure, put those lights in a group and select that group, Everything else goes off and you can see and mater that particular group. If you want that group brighter, just click up the power and only that group changes . . . and updates the metered f stop from each light in that group and of the aggregate in that group.
You only metered once, then set up the exact output and aggregate exposure on the CC. You can then save this as one of 50 presets for later recall, then do a whole different setup and save it.
When you're done for the day, you can go to ALL > Off and the power to each light is turned off (standby) Even if you actually shut of the main circuit breaker, you can come back in a week, turn the breaker back on, recall one of the memories you saved and bingo - they lights are all turned on to the exact settings you saved last week. Recall another memory and everything resets to that setup.
Clear, or confusing? If you call Customer service they can send you a Cyber Commander and preliminary Einstein manuals, which are quite complete....Show more →
This all sounds fantastic and exactly what I'm after. The problem I have is that I can only afford one Einstein to augment a couple AB800 and AB1600 units. For the next year or two I need to run a mixture of AB and Einstein. Is this remote functionality unique to the Einstein or will I be able to have this control with a combination of Einstein and AB? I understood that this would be possible with traditional AB units but just want to confirm.
Thanks!
joel_c wrote:
Is this remote functionality unique to the Einstein or will I be able to have this control with a combination of Einstein and AB?
I think the only issue is color cast w/ bees vs. no color temp change w/ Einstein units when you lower power. They all will work as you expect w/ the CC...
The color temperature VS power curve of AB and WL is exactly the same as almost all monolights, from the cheapest to the most expensive. There is a tendency on these forums to think Euro lights are somehow different the AB in this regard. This is only true with the ultra expensive power pack systems like Broncolr Grafit and similar.
I just did final tweaking on Einstein look up tables and the color is virtually constant 5600°K from 640WS all the way down to 2.5WS, with both flash and modeling lamps consistent and accurate to 1/10f stop throughout the power range, regardless of AC input voltage.
Paul I use both ABs and Profoto Compacts...the ABs definitely are more prone to color shift than the PFs...Both exhibit it but the ABs are worse when it comes to color shift.
Read this independent report. Profoto compacts have less power control range than AB, hence less color shift at minimum power. You have to consider the color shift VS a given power reduction. AB and WL exhibit the same power vs color curve as Profoto, Elinchrom and others - about 75-90° per f stop of power reduction. Do the math on the link and you'll see all three units do exactly this.
Paul - I would prefer to form my opinion from my own experience not that of others. I can tell you that my Profoto Compact perform better in every possible way to the ABs we use at the studio. Especially when looking at color shift. YMMV
Also I don't see ABs listed in that review...or am I missing something?
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