Home · Register · Join Upload & Sell

Moderated by: Fred Miranda

Sports Corner Rules
Sports Corner Resource

FM Forums | Sports Corner | Join Upload & Sell

2 end

Archive 2010 · Strobed GBB last night

Bob Cox
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Strobed GBB last night

A few from last nights game... Strobed w/ AB800's w/ 11" reflectors. Nikon D300 / Sigma 70-200/2.8 C&C welcome as always.

Bob

Feb 18, 2010 at 05:49 AM

canonet
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Strobed GBB last night

Bob, i love the warmth coming from your lights. Are you at full or ½ power ?

Newburg? Are you in NY State?

Feb 18, 2010 at 05:52 AM

Bob Cox
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Strobed GBB last night

Thanks Canonet....I'm shooting at full power bounced off the cieling to the top of the key. and.. yes, Newburgh, N.Y. about 60 north of NYC on the Hudson River.

Feb 18, 2010 at 05:58 AM

Ben Amato
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Strobed GBB last night

Bob: They look great. I am a fan of bounced lights. The colors are excellent. Don't you just wish that high school gyms didn't have so much junk in them?

Ben

Feb 18, 2010 at 06:09 AM

Bob Cox
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Strobed GBB last night

Ben.. I hate HS backgrounds...empty stands, puke colors, and all kinds of brackets, backboards, and gagets all over the place...but I also believe that if you can get decent shots in these caves you can handle just about any situation that might come up.
Thanks for your comments,
Bob

Feb 18, 2010 at 06:18 AM

canonet
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Strobed GBB last night

Bob Cox wrote:
Thanks Canonet....I'm shooting at full power bounced off the cieling to the top of the key. and.. yes, Newburgh, N.Y. about 60 north of NYC on the Hudson River.

Sure, Bob, you're most welcome.I have not been to Newburgh NY since I was a kid & living in NYC.

how reliable are your Alien Bees? Fast recycling times? I am using a Photogenic PL1500 and a very old Photogenic PL06 600 ws units I bounce. They're heavy but work fine.

I'm kicking around the idea of the Bees after seeing yours and others work with strobes here.

Feb 18, 2010 at 09:16 AM

Bob Cox
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Strobed GBB last night

Using the AB800's at full power recycle time is 1 sec. I use single shot mode and just time the shots according to the action going on. I use the bees with the cybercync system by Paul C Buff and I've had not one mis fire or failure in any way

Feb 18, 2010 at 10:26 AM

WmPat
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Strobed GBB last night

Very nice work Bob. Nice to see the bright colors that strobes bring out without seeing any harsh shadows.

Feb 18, 2010 at 10:52 AM

john_a_g
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Strobed GBB last night

Bob - great shots again. I think a lot of people need to pay attention to how you're using your strobes. You're getting fantastic results without flash burn / harsh shadows I've seen from a lot of people. And, to boot, doing it with "only" a D300 and "inferior" sigma lens. Great quality work and good example of what's possible.

Feb 18, 2010 at 11:07 AM

RKuebel
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Strobed GBB last night

Boy, those strobes really sharpen things up! Great series. Also like the DOF. What fs are you shooting? or is the DOF due to the strobes? Rick

Feb 18, 2010 at 11:08 AM

GaryMc
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Strobed GBB last night

Bob,

I know you probably don't shoot hockey, but I'm thinking of popping for some AB's. How many are you using and where are they placed in the gym. I have only boys, and we only play hockey (Minnesota) and I would like to light 1/2 of a small arena with easy ceiling to bounce off. Any suggestions? Do you think two would do fine?

Gary

Feb 18, 2010 at 11:13 AM

P Alesse
Offline
• • • • • •
Upload & Sell: On

p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Strobed GBB last night

Probably the best looking set so far Bob.

Feb 18, 2010 at 12:00 PM

rhurley4917
Offline
•
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Strobed GBB last night

Nice look images. Lighting looks really even to me. What do the 11" reflectors do that the 7" don't?

Feb 18, 2010 at 12:31 PM

NathanHamler
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Strobed GBB last night

rhurley4917 wrote:
Nice look images. Lighting looks really even to me. What do the 11" reflectors do that the 7" don't?

they add almost 2 stops of "power" to the lights...so almost doubles the distance it'll throw....so if it's 75 feet from the light, up to the ceiling, and back down to the floor, with a 7" reflector that'll give you about f/2.2 with a AB800 at full power.....with an 11" reflector it gives you about f/4.2 at the floor....same light, same output...just more light hitting the floor.....and it also controls how much light spills into the stands, so if you want the background to have more light falloff, then you want an 11" reflector...

Feb 18, 2010 at 12:47 PM

Bob Cox
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Strobed GBB last night

Very nice work Bob. Nice to see the bright colors that strobes bring out without seeing any harsh shadows

Thanks WmPat

Bob - great shots again. I think a lot of people need to pay attention to how you're using your strobes. You're getting fantastic results without flash burn / harsh shadows I've seen from a lot of people. And, to boot, doing it with "only" a D300 and "inferior" sigma lens. Great quality work and good example of what's possible.

Thanks John...Although "some" people think these are "inferior" tools of the trade I'm very happy with the set-up and I haven't seen to many images with "top of the line" cameras and "over priced" lenses that are much better. IMHO

Rick.. These were @ F3.2 ISO 640 and a SS of 1/320... I don't think the DOF is affected by the strobes.

Gary... If the ceiling is good for bouncing I would think two AB800's w/ the long throw reflectors would do nicely for lighting one end of the rink. Shooting through the glass might be your only concern.

Paul... THANK YOU! I think I'm starting to get there

rhurley... I guess Nathan is the on-board Paul C Buff spokesperson

Feb 18, 2010 at 02:25 PM

KrautFed
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Strobed GBB last night

Bob Cox wrote:
1/320

Interesting... lots of ambient for 1/320 not to mention sync speed. I think you have absolutely perfect positioning for your strobes. Do you have a setup shot?

Feb 18, 2010 at 04:27 PM

Bob Cox
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Strobed GBB last night

I put the bees about 12' off the (4) corners inline with the sidelines on 10' stands. I shoot one end and my partner shoots the other end. I aim the bees bounced off the ceiling to the top of the key. With the 11" reflectors this seems to give me pretty even light for my end of the court with very little (if any) light spill onto the players causing shadows. I will have to take a shot of the set-up tomorrow night .

Feb 18, 2010 at 06:16 PM

rbaker
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Strobed GBB last night

NathanHamler wrote:
they add almost 2 stops of "power" to the lights...so almost doubles the distance it'll throw....so if it's 75 feet from the light, up to the ceiling, and back down to the floor, with a 7" reflector that'll give you about f/2.2 with a AB800 at full power.....with an 11" reflector it gives you about f/4.2 at the floor....same light, same output...just more light hitting the floor.....and it also controls how much light spills into the stands, so if you want the background to have more light falloff, then you want an 11" reflector...
Excellent post Nathan...

Feb 18, 2010 at 06:21 PM

Fish On
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Strobed GBB last night

Very nice colors and warmth of the shots. Does not have the flashed look that we are all trying to achieve. Also, some nice isolation shots.

Feb 18, 2010 at 07:07 PM

Frank Lauri
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off

p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Strobed GBB last night

Hey Bob....you are tempting me to take a trip to Newburgh to do some benchmarking. These are, what Paul said....gotta be the best yet. They have a real warm and rich look. That purple stands out...

Frank

Feb 18, 2010 at 08:17 PM

1 2 end
FM Forums \| Sports Corner \| Join Upload & Sell 1 2 end