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Frank-Starling
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · How to shave ... lenses?


Hi

I have just converted a mint Leica R 28 mm (current ROM version) to a Leitax mount.

As occurred also with my Leica R 90 mm AA, one of the screws was so impactred that I was not able to get it out and I needed to burr it out. However the other 5 I was able to get out easily. The Leitax mount is now tightly screwed on with 5 in stead of 6 screws., which does not matter I think.

However focused at infinity the mirror hits the rear element. I hope this does not harm my D700 (it happened already a few times now) but anyway that way I will not be able to use the lens regularly.
So I need to shave a bit of the rear element. Anyone tips or tricks on doing this kind of shaving?



Jan 17, 2010 at 08:24 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · How to shave ... lenses?


Hello,
I shaved my 5D.
Here's some information (not from me):
http://www.16-9.net/5d_mirrorshave/

It is difficult to prevent dirt from entering, so masking the whole thing off properly is one important aspect.

1) I did it with stripes of thick paper; width = width morror box, length ~20cm.
Such a stripe, I "pulled" through behind the morror axis and brought it to front again.
2) I covered the left and right side of the mirror box with two pieces from the same paper and with many small pieces of tape I covered the gaps between all three pieces of paper (at least those gaps I could reach; it is a bit difficult to access all areas around the mirror axis).
3) I masked the entire circumfence of the flange with tape.
4) I took a paper bag and masked the entire camera body, apart from the flange, and again I isolated everything with tape.
5) I used a piece of Styropore to hold the mirror in the position found most comfortable to access it.

6) Took 2 different dremel ginding stones and with medium RPM I carefully and with little pressure removed 2mm with many many movements from left to the right and back.

Afterwards, there was still some dirt inside and I had the sensor cleaned later.

I read somebody placed camera over himself somehow (tripod?) and worked overhead so that the dirt could falls out of the mirror box. Wonder if that may be a good solution.

I think now the perfect approach would be to order a spare mirror, modify it out of the camera and get a Nikon service repair shop to install it.

Otherwise I think it yould be a good idea to obtain a cheap (e.g. defect) analog camera body and give it a first try. I did it like that, and believe it was helpful.

I'm happy with it now.
Good luck!



Jan 17, 2010 at 09:56 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · How to shave ... lenses?


I will nt shave the mirror but the lens itself.


Jan 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · How to shave ... lenses?


Actual shaving the rear element or a metal ring that holds it in place?


Jan 17, 2010 at 11:38 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · How to shave ... lenses?


I believe the part that is hitting is the shroud, and if this is the case, try to unscrew it (counterclockwise I believe). It may see as though it won't come off, but it should (I think with the passage of time it gets a little stuck). I suppose if you got it off you could try it out without the shroud on and see if it clears. I'm thinking it will, but I don't use Nikon anymore. If it clears, you would then have the option of sanding down that shroud to just short of going clear through the material, stopping every so often to see if it is enough. Be careful to sand parallel to the planes of the shroud base, etc, or you will go through the material on one side, leaving the other side still high. The material is not that thick. One way to do it is by putting wet sandpaper on a pane of glass (or something equally flat) and rubbing the shroud on that, using progressively finer sand paper grits as you near the end (remember you are sanding the very rear of the shroud, not the side that screws on to the lens). I recommend this shroud removal method because you really have no risk of dust, etc, and it is infinitely easier than working with it on the lens.

I actually have two of these 28mm R ROM lenses that clear the 5DII mirror, one that required sanding and one that did not. I'm think I will be selling one fairly soon. This is THE lens for this focal length, IMHO, very sharp from f/2.8, etc., so it's worth the effort. They are fairly difficult to find used.

I'm not sure whether simply shooting without the shroud is advisable or not. I'm not sure exactly what the purpose of it is, but I suspect it protects the inner mechanism from grit, etc entering the mechanism, not to mention something hitting the actual rear element.



Jan 17, 2010 at 12:12 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · How to shave ... lenses?


On the site of Leitax a picture of a shaved Leica R 19 is shown, but how to do that. I presume it is the upper site of the rear element proection that has to be shaved am I correct? Does someone has pictures of this process?


Jan 18, 2010 at 03:42 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · How to shave ... lenses?


Curious that you would shave and deminish the value of lenses which are combined worth more than the D700, and a process that is more likely to ruin them than shaving the mirror is to ruin the D700... but I digress.

Here is an example of shaving the 19mm elmarit v2.



Jan 18, 2010 at 08:57 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · How to shave ... lenses?


thrice wrote:
Curious that you would shave and deminish the value of lenses which are combined worth more than the D700, and a process that is more likely to ruin them than shaving the mirror is to ruin the D700... but I digress.


Also, from reversibility's perspective, I'd much rather source a replacement mirror assembly from Nikon than a rear lens flange from Leica.



Jan 18, 2010 at 11:39 PM





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