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Anyone else noticed that Wolf Camera no longer sells Canon cameras? I was in last night and the guy said there's a conflict between the two companies that has caused the Canon cameras to no longer be sold at Wolf.


Dec 31, 2009 at 02:21 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


Ritz/Wolf are in Chapter 11.


Dec 31, 2009 at 02:24 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


The conflict is millions nonpayment of bills. Would you give 'em more gear?


Dec 31, 2009 at 02:50 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


Ah, I see.


Jan 04, 2010 at 11:03 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


I noticed that lack of Canon gear too. I don't know why I even bother stopping into that store when I go to the mall.


Jan 04, 2010 at 12:27 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


Ritz/Wolf WERE in Chapter 11, but came out of it in August.


Jan 04, 2010 at 01:06 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


Ritz owes Canon tens of millions of dollars. They also owe Nikon a lot of money. I have a feeling that nikon only deals with them so long as the orders are paid in full prior to delivery.


Jan 04, 2010 at 01:35 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


All the Ritz/Wolf stores are closed in my neck of the woods.

Bill



Jan 04, 2010 at 01:36 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


I've been in several lately - they appear to be starting to sell cell phones and phone cards and at least two have devoted significantly more space to this endevour as of late.

It reminds me of when RadioShack took a turn for the worse and began making the bulk of their income from cell phones.



Jan 04, 2010 at 01:39 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera



I've tried a couple of lenses in Ritz before because it is convenient, but who actually buys camera equipment there? It's bankruptcy was one of the least surprising consumer retail bankruptcies ever.



Jan 04, 2010 at 02:30 PM
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I wanted to buy a lens from my local store but they couldn't price match their own website. They said the website and brick and mortar stores were different companies.

Bump that noise. No thanks, but I like being able to try out lenses too.



Jan 04, 2010 at 02:38 PM
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I used to go to Portland just to visit Camera World. After Ritz took over it was hosed. Ritz shallowed every photo retail operation it could--Camera World, Wolf, Fox, Kits, Cameras West, PROEX etc.--hoping to be the MacDonolds of the biz. After stomping out most local shops the internet and big box retailers like Kmart were Ritz' main competitors. Obviously their strategy didn't fare so well...


Jan 04, 2010 at 02:48 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


yeah went in the one at the St. Johns Town Center in Jacksonville Fl on saturday and noticed they only had a few silver XSis on display and like 2 lenses. Compared to a much bigger display in August.

For a camera store they had a slim shop with only a small display of filters and a small display of bags. Hell they only had 2 manfrotto tripods setup (190xprob and the 55)



Jan 04, 2010 at 02:54 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


See resellerratings.com. Way back when, I'd buy from the Wolf Camera store in Atlanta only when absolutely necessary. I had a big job in Atlanta and needed some emergency supplies. They refused to charge it on our account because of an outstanding invoice over 60 days old. Chucky Wolf and I had a serious conversation on the sales floor. I could have charged it on my AMEX, but didn't want to on principle. He finally relented. It turns out they had billed us for a backordered item that they subsequently admitted hadn't even been delivered. It was the last of a series of annoying transactions. I took my business across town.


Jan 04, 2010 at 03:08 PM
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David Ritz and Chuck Wolf are cousins. Ritz was a pretty well run company, financially speaking, until they rescued Wolf from bankruptcy in 2001. Wolf was trying to beat Ritz in what was basically a family feud to see who could be the largest photo chain. Wolf, in an effort to go in the lead purchased the Fox chain (which was owned by E. Kodak) and paid way too much for it. The debt of purchasing Fox pushed Wolf into bankruptcy in 2000 and was purchased by Ritz in 2001. David made cousin Chuck the National Sales manager and all seemed fairly normal for a while.

Ritz also owned the Boaters World chain and the oil crisis in 2007/08 pushed Boaters World into bankruptcy and Ritz Camera Centers Inc. followed. A management team led by David Ritz bought the bankrupt Ritz Camera for $33 million. In the end the number of stores dropped from over 1000 to about 350 when it emerged from bankruptcy with David Ritz at the head. I think today the total might stand a little higher.

I think the Canon - Ritz feud stems from losses incurred leading up to the bankruptcy. Ritz was never a strong Canon dealer because they rarely paid spiffs on cameras, which was a part of the pay plan for most Ritz sales people. Ritz, in the late '90's and early 2000s was the largest Nikon dealer in the world based on units sold. The internet ate into sales and Ritz struggled after the Wolf acquisition. The merging of the two ultimately didn't go smoothly and Ritz started loosing money. Combined with the losses at Boaters World and you had a fatal combination.



Jan 04, 2010 at 03:50 PM
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Who needs daytime TV when you've got FM?


Jan 04, 2010 at 03:58 PM
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Jeff Donald wrote:
David Ritz and Chuck Wolf are cousins. Ritz was a pretty well run company, financially speaking, until they rescued Wolf from bankruptcy in 2001. Wolf was trying to beat Ritz in what was basically a family feud to see who could be the largest photo chain. Wolf, in an effort to go in the lead purchased the Fox chain (which was owned by E. Kodak) and paid way too much for it. The debt of purchasing Fox pushed Wolf into bankruptcy in 2000 and was purchased by Ritz in 2001. David made cousin Chuck the National Sales manager and
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Wow thanks for all the info ......



Jan 04, 2010 at 04:10 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


Well actually there is more to the story that none of us really know. I was in one location the other day and I asked where the canon gear went and apparently there is a point of contention between Canon and Wolf/Ritz (she wouldn't elaborate on the disagreement between the two companies) that is compounded with the Chapter 11 status of the company. Go figure. I won't be purchasing gear from them given their obscene mark-ups, but still sort of surprising to see them pull all their canon gear.


Jan 04, 2010 at 04:22 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera



Canon and Nikon were two of Ritz's largest creditors and took it in the chin in the bankruptcy. I strongly suspect that Canon simply stopped shipping it to them.



Jan 04, 2010 at 04:43 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Canon and Ritz/Wolf Camera


botw wrote:
Canon and Nikon were two of Ritz's largest creditors and took it in the chin in the bankruptcy. I strongly suspect that Canon simply stopped shipping it to them.


Yeah, and demanded the existing inventory to be returned.



Jan 04, 2010 at 05:02 PM
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