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carstenw wrote:
Sure, and any other 10MP is faster than a P40+ in Sensor+ mode. Really, your arguments would have been stronger if you hadn't tried to squeeze that one through  What in the 40MP range is faster?
The speed's there with the P40+ if you need it. If not, well you get the resolution. The S2 is on the high end of the speed scale but not the fastest (Admittedly it is the fastest in full-resolution mode by 0.3fps over the P40+ running in 40MP mode, but that's not exactly 'fast' when the faster one is 1.5fps)
Sure, the Leica is expensive, that can quickly be agreed, but there are also many people who own. Phase is still pumping out the P65+ backs as fast as they can, AFAIK, and this is primarily private sales.
Actually, the Leica's pricing isn't particularly expensive. It's in line with P40+ and P45+ systems. I'd suspect a lot of the P65+ sales are to rental organizations, it's not been on the market all that long.
I cannot really imagine a cleaner implementation than a single dedicated switch for choosing what you want. Do you lose the choice with the Phase?
With the Phase, it's totally seamless by default, you get L/S to 1/800 or 1/1600 (depending on the back, you need a P65+ or P40+ to get the extra stop) and a seamless switch to FP over that speed with LS lenses, with FP lenses it automatically runs in FP. A CF allows you to specify FP-only for LS lenses if so desired. from what I understand of the S2, you get one or the other controlled by the switch. A nice implementation compared to previous Pentax or Mamiya dual-shutter setups but not as clean as the DF.
Why should the advantage disappear? The rest are in the back, carried on your shoulders, not in your hands. Believe me, there is a difference!
My experience is it's usually an issue on your back rather than in your hands.My concern about equipment weight is total haul weight.
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Look, I am not saying that the S2 is everything for everyone, but it has specific advantages, and the kinds of arguments that most have been putting up don't hold water. The S2 has a real advantage for certain photographers, one which you cannot get around: it has very high IQ in a fast, tight package.
I'm not trashing the S2, I just happen to think you're overstating the case a little. I'd say it's got very high IQ in a sealed, tight package rather than fast, tight package. The speed is quite good for MF, but if speed is an issue any high-MP 35mm DSLR will put it to shame.
I've got my issues with the S2 design (I think Leica over-did the control simplification in most regards and I'm not convinced on the soft-button-based UI) but overall I'd say it's a competent implementation of a fairly good idea and should be successful inside its limitations. The downsides are that the same basic idea failed miserably the last time it was tried (Mamiya ZD body) although I think Leica did a much better job at implementation than Mamiya did.
That said, I do have a real beef with some (not you) claiming massive advantages over the rest of the market, especially with regards to lens quality (Leica is at best a match for Schneider or Zeiss in the MF market on quality) and IQ (The S2 rates solidly in the middle of the pack based on samples, but middle of the pack in this crowd is very, very good overall).
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), the difference between an APS-H sensor and FF is 1.57x. I'd say the difference will be as visible, especially as the S lenses obliterate pretty much everything in the 35mm format and with a few exceptions the best 35mm lenses exceed most MF lenses in pure lp/mm.