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p.2 #1 · Is the switch from 35mm to...


The computer isnt an issue...I have a laptop with more than good enough specs to run anything. I also have all the editing software I would need. I can thank my parents for that one haha


Nov 05, 2009 at 10:22 AM
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p.2 #2 · Is the switch from 35mm to...


I also have an old HD that I converted to an external that I havent used at all that would be perfect for backing everything up


Nov 05, 2009 at 10:23 AM
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^ On a budget there's no way you need all of that stuff. That's like saying you need access to a lab to shoot film. You can get away with whatever computer he's using and Lightroom for <$100 on the student rebate, and if he wants to archive, a $40 external drive.

Anyway, if you're used to 35mm yeah, it will be a little awkward but it's not the worst thing in the world. It's still taking pictures, just you'll be missing the outer portion of the frame.
I know this is the Nikon forum, but if you really care about shooting a full sensor, the 5D classics are pretty cheap and are great cameras. Plus, if you're shooting manual focus Nikon lenses you can adapt them to the Canon very simply.



Nov 05, 2009 at 10:25 AM
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^ what he said about the 5D. If you don't have any lenses worth keeping (i.e. just a 28-80G or something like that) then you might as well look at all systems.


Nov 05, 2009 at 10:49 AM
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SJC91 wrote:
A D70s seems reasonable...this just sucks Im going to Europe in less than a month and theres no way I'm going to deal with film over there...then paying to have it all developed ughh

I dont have the money to rent a camera either :-/ I cant find a job

Being in the Alps with no SLR = sad me


If it's a single trip you're most worried about, buy a used DSLR, and sell it when you get back for little to no loss. Then continue saving for the DSLR you really want. I recommend the D200 as well. Excellent camera at most everything but low light. And not that it's BAD there, just not nearly as good as more recent generations.

Skip the D100.





Nov 05, 2009 at 01:35 PM
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p.2 #6 · Is the switch from 35mm to...


I didnt even think of that! Thank you!


Nov 05, 2009 at 10:59 PM
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Another possible (and much less expensive) choice would be to get a used D1X with buffer upgrade. The D1X is a solidly built camera (no pop up flash) with a great HP viewfinder. Size-wise it is between an F100 and an F5 leaning more toward the F5. The files are much smaller than those of the D200 ( I get about 120 RAW images with a 1GB card), and the D1X still produces high quality images. I have produced 16"x20" prints shot with my old D1X's that rival prints I made with my old Mamiya 645; something I can't say for any 35mm image I ever shot. Downsides of the D1X are the short battery life and the fact that biggest CF card you can get for it is 1GB (I think maybe 2GB, not sure, but I know for a fact that 4GB will not work with it). No biggie though. Batteries are not that expensive and 1GB cards are ridiculousley cheap nowadays.

If you want something newer, smaller, faster, that can also use the lenses you probably already have I would suggest the D200. Both the D1X and D200 work very well with new AF, AFS, DX and old manual focus AIS lenses. I find the manual focus feature of my D1X (a little green circle surrounded by arrows that point in what direction you need to turn the focus ring on your lens to get the right focus) is nicer that the system found on the D200 (same green circle but without the arrows).




Nov 07, 2009 at 06:38 AM
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I'd also go with a D70 or D200. The D200 is an absolute tank of a camera and a joy to handle. the D70 has most of the goodness of the D200, but it's much more awkward to use - lots of controls are buried in the menus. The biggest difference is in resolution, however.

If you are looking at D70's be very wary of any that have ever had a external battery grip attached to them. Nikon never made one, and most of the ones produced can fry the camera pretty quickly.




Nov 07, 2009 at 07:04 AM
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D200 would work great, although a used D80 would be lighter with same image quality. Forget the brick like D2H that some are recommending. Way too heavy for a vacation camera.

Gerald



Nov 07, 2009 at 07:09 AM
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As you will ... but I think you are kidding yourself the way some of us have to kid wives that you are being smart with any of this moving to digital as a cost effective measure. The $ for any decent digital such as a D90 or D200 is going to be five years worth of film. Not already being digital I think you are blithely disregarding how frustrating it will quickly get without a high end pc with lots (4gigs minimum - more desired) of ram and more hard drive space than first ever imagined. Laptops for the only rig for photos are akin to thinking you are well armed with a walmart disposable film camera instead of a F100. Yeah, it can be done. Yeah - it is cheaper. Yeah ... yer kidding yourself.
For a start, laptops have a high hard drive failure rate. Laptop drives tend to be small. Baking up and archiving is a real need - right away, not at some future date.

Digital is many great things but cheap and cost efficient is not one of them. Oh sure many here will keep on going on how great it is to take exposures for free. But the funny thing is that most of us here spend insane amounts on this hobby. (and don't tell me about your uncle bob who got a great deal on a camera and has only one lens and never upgrades and never spends any money. That is like the guy who shoots only ten rolls of black and white film a year saving wisely. More myth than the average) All of us who are enthusiasts have found that this digital monster keeps on needing to be continually fed (and I for one am weak! I can't resist! I don't want to resist! I'm mean ... they keep on improving things. I need, I NEED! )

I'm not saying mind you about not moving on to digital. If you don't shoot much - film is the winner because you already have a body that in the digital world is the equivalent of a $2,700 D700 in build, viewfinder and frame size. I shoot a lot but $200 bucks of film keeps me in clicks with my F100 for a good six months. ( but I do shoot B&W and develop my own)

Lastly I would urge you, if you do bring a digital cam with you to get some time with it before you go. It is not as straight forward to get good results until one gets familiar with the peculiarities of digital in general and the particular camera in particular.

With that said though, and to get to your original question ... I would go out and get a used D80 or if you have a thousand bucks go and get a D90 and a few good fast cards. I have the D200, the D700 and the D90 right now. On a trip like that I'd take the D90 for sure. Not as visible as the other two. Much better high iso IQ over the D200 - in fact close to the D700 to surprisingly high values. THe D90 does not seem to need as much post processing neither imho. I guess it is tuned more for jpg shooters?
In any case the D90 is not the best at any one thing but on the aggregate of all the features I think it wins out - and does so at only a grand. Three grand more for lenses that do justice to the images ... and you are set to save on the costs of film.




Nov 07, 2009 at 07:52 AM
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Sorry to dredge up this somewhat old thread, I had not seen it until now.

I went the opposite way, sort of. I have been shooting digital since the fall of 2004, and recently switched back to 35mm film 100%. I personally don't find that film holds me back at all; but I did shoot 35mm film for 15 years before I ever laid eyes on a DSLR, so that probably helps. I have owned/used some the of the best DSLR's (D2H, EOS-5D, EOS-1Ds Mark II) that money can buy, and I still prefer Nikon film SLR's. As mentioned above, the F100 that you have is as nice and capable as a $2,000+ D700, well mostly. You can shoot high ISO's that are tough to do with film. For me, I hated DX, but that is just me. I shoot wilderness landscapes, so the loss of wide angle to me was a deal breaker. Anyways, as was mentioned above, DSLR's with the build quality and features of a pro film SLR are very expensive compared to their film counterparts. Back in the film days, a TOP end camera from either Nikon or Canon could be had for $2,000 or less, and many were less than $1,000. Now in the age of DSLR's, $2,000 doesn't get you very far. We would have laughed at the idea of paying $8,000 for a camera body .

I would guess it depends on how much shooting that you do. If you are one of the guys that smoke a shutter every year, than a DSLR may be a cost saver for you. But if you are like me, I've shot 7 36-exposure rolls since August, then a film SLR is much cheaper to use. I will admit that my film photography improved using digital for the past 5 years, I believe that it is due to the ability to try things and see what happens. With film, you will be much more reserved in attempting things that are above your skill level. Every frame cost money after all. It does with digital as well, it's just not as apparent as with film. In closing, I don't believe that your F100 will hold you back, it is a wonderful camera capable of professional results. It was Galen Rowell's first choice at the time of his death.

Jared



Nov 28, 2009 at 11:28 AM
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I consider the D200 an excellent camera even after i got the D700. Buy one (used if necessary). You will love it. No problem switching from film. You need an editing program for fine tuning your shots (It is fun!). I would recommend shooting RAW and editing in Capture NX2.


Nov 28, 2009 at 02:36 PM
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I've been going back and forth between both FX/DX the last year and the only time I see a problem with DX is when I have to use wide-angle lenses due to the cropped sensor and thats not even a real problem. Go for a used D200/D300 and you be fine.



Nov 28, 2009 at 03:19 PM
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"God I want a D700...

Anyone want to donate one to the Broke Student Foundation? haha "


Student loans...



Nov 28, 2009 at 03:40 PM
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sav1977 wrote:
"God I want a D700...

Anyone want to donate one to the Broke Student Foundation? haha "

Student loans...


D700 is a nice machine, but you can still get a fine one in D300S or used D300.



Nov 28, 2009 at 04:33 PM
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I would not get a digital body if I were you. Spend money on film instead and use what you have. If you think digital is inexpensive then you are so wrong. You need memory cards and holders, compatible flash and cords, cases and bags to fit, an assortment of lenses that will work, computer, programs, extra hard drives, DVD's for backups, burners, camera bodies, chargers, batteries, etc.. Do you think thayou only need one digital body?


Nov 29, 2009 at 01:45 AM
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Move to digital ASAP, start with a D200, and all the issues are overblown. You'll find the switch easy. I'd add detail, but everyone else already did that.


Nov 29, 2009 at 02:06 AM
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man, if you can't afford to get anything decent, and need good pics of your Eurotrip, keep shooting film.


Nov 29, 2009 at 06:43 AM
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