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Graham Mitchell
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p.3 #1 · Leica S2 - Madness


Edward Castro wrote:
^^^ That doesn't come close.


Agreed. The Leica lenses look nice but I get that kind of result already with most of my Rollei lenses for a fraction of the price:

Full frame:

http://moskvamodels.com/images/aigi/Image029.jpg

100% crop, no sharpening:

http://moskvamodels.com/images/aigi/Image029crop.jpg



Dec 19, 2009 at 04:42 AM
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p.3 #2 · Leica S2 - Madness


Very nice Graham!

I assume Rollei's lenses are Zeiss?



Dec 19, 2009 at 04:52 AM
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p.3 #3 · Leica S2 - Madness


edwardkaraa wrote:
Very nice Graham!

I assume Rollei's lenses are Zeiss?


This was a Zeiss lens, but Schneider makes a few as well and they are generally even better, imho.



Dec 19, 2009 at 05:18 AM
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p.3 #4 · Leica S2 - Madness


Graham, can you provide more info on the body, digital back and lens combo you used?


Dec 19, 2009 at 05:49 AM
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p.3 #5 · Leica S2 - Madness


andrewd01 wrote:
Graham, can you provide more info on the body, digital back and lens combo you used?


Rollei 6008AF body, Sinar eMotion54LV back, 110mm f2 PQ lens



Dec 19, 2009 at 07:39 AM
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p.3 #6 · Leica S2 - Madness


What is with this ongoing stereotype of dentists and doctors? They spent a fortune going to school and getting into debt to learn their professions and provide a valuable service. So, now that they can afford an M9 or S2 you are going to disparage their interest in photography? Does the fact that they make enough money to afford top notch gear mean that they buy it for vanity purposes? No, I am not a doctor and I don't play one on TV. You all know that if you could afford the S2 kit you would have one, so give it a rest.


Dec 19, 2009 at 08:07 AM
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p.3 #7 · Leica S2 - Madness


Graham Mitchell wrote:
This was a Zeiss lens, but Schneider makes a few as well and they are generally even better, imho.


Gotta agree with the Schneider stuff, very, very good glass. I got a chance to see some samples from a P65+ with the new Schneider 80/2.8 on a PhaseOne 645DF at a recent CaptureOne event here in Toronto. The results (shot wide open, with fill flash) were simply stunning even at 100%.

The samples from the S2 that are being shown are excellent. But they aren't better than the competition (Different? yes, you do get typical Leica rendering characteristics). You'll get equivalent results from any of the current MF systems with a similar MP back and equivalent lenses (IE any of the Zeiss, Schneider, Fujiblad or newer Mamiya lenses). Really the only underperforming lenses available new in the MF world are the legacy Mamiya lenses which are leftovers from the early M645 days design-wise (and are generally pretty damned good, just not up to what a high-MP back demands).

The real advantage to the S2 is size and sealing.



Dec 19, 2009 at 01:19 PM
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aboudd wrote:
What is with this ongoing stereotype of dentists and doctors? They spent a fortune going to school and getting into debt to learn their professions and provide a valuable service. So, now that they can afford an M9 or S2 you are going to disparage their interest in photography? Does the fact that they make enough money to afford top notch gear mean that they buy it for vanity purposes? No, I am not a doctor and I don't play one on TV. You all know that if you could afford the S2 kit you would have one, so give
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As a lawyer in the making, you have my support



Dec 19, 2009 at 01:55 PM
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p.3 #9 · Leica S2 - Madness


aboudd wrote:
What is with this ongoing stereotype of dentists and doctors?


It's thinly-disguised envy.

aboudd wrote:
... so give it a rest.


I agree. I'm neither doctor, dentist nor lawyer but the class-envy stereotypes have got to go.



Dec 19, 2009 at 09:23 PM
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p.3 #10 · Leica S2 - Madness


Graham Mitchell wrote:
Agreed. The Leica lenses look nice but I get that kind of result already with most of my Rollei lenses for a fraction of the price


Yeah, but Graham, you're a superhero and have enough skills to make *any* camera look better. I hope you get the chance to use an S2 and post some pics.



Dec 19, 2009 at 10:48 PM
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