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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


Looks like Leica announced the new X1 today. Anyone thinking about getting one when they become available? The specs look promising, but I wonder if it is truely worth the $2,000.00 price tag? http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090908leicax1.asp


Sep 09, 2009 at 05:14 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


Nope. Doesn't seem to offer me anything my G1 doesn't.


Sep 09, 2009 at 06:01 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


mawz wrote:
Nope. Doesn't seem to offer me anything my G1 doesn't.



Except for the red dot of course! I like the styling and compact size of the X1; also, just having one focal length wouldn't bother me much as long as I get absolutely stunning results. I do hope the price drops though so I can consider getting one!



Sep 09, 2009 at 06:12 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


snegron wrote:
Except for the red dot of course! I like the styling and compact size of the X1; also, just having one focal length wouldn't bother me much as long as I get absolutely stunning results. I do hope the price drops though so I can consider getting one!


Overall it does look like an excellent camera, and I've no issues with it having a 35mm-e prime. The G1 just happens to already handle that very well for me (I've got the Oly M.Zuiko 17, which hasn't come off in a week)



Sep 09, 2009 at 06:18 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


If it delivers on image quality and performance, somewhere between $1200-$1500 this camera starts to become interesting. Don't forget to factor in another $150-$400 for a viewfinder!


Sep 09, 2009 at 06:22 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


Tariq Gibran wrote:
If it delivers on image quality and performance, somewhere between $1200-$1500 this camera starts to become interesting. Don't forget to factor in another $150-$400 for a viewfinder!



Plus another $200 or so for the case...



Sep 09, 2009 at 06:25 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


If the AF is fantastic and the price were considerably lower than $2000 it could be a really cool camera.


Sep 09, 2009 at 06:44 PM
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Sam N wrote:
If the AF is fantastic and the price were considerably lower than $2000 it could be a really cool camera.



I noticed that there was no mention of shutter lag (or at least I couldn't find any mention of it in the article). It would be nice if it has little or no shutter lag. I'm sure focus confirmation would slow things down or at least contribute to shutter lag, but if the AF is fast (or if it has the ability to focus manually) it would be a very desireable little camera.



Sep 09, 2009 at 07:08 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


It does have the ability to focus manually using the thumb wheel on the rear and a focus confirmation light where it can be seen near the hotshoe (such that it could be seen with your eye to a shoe mounted viewfinder). This is exactly how the Sigma DP's use manual focus and it works very well. No shutter lag to speak of. Unfortunately, unless Leica adds a distance scale on that focus wheel such as the Sigma DP's have, zone focusing will be tricky.


Sep 09, 2009 at 08:40 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


I am seriously thinking of getting one. By the way GF1 with a Leica 35 mm equivalent lens would cost a bit more than $2000 (actually something like $5000 +)


Sep 09, 2009 at 09:09 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


Looks like a nice camera, but the $$ is too much for me! For that price, I'd get more use out of some sweet glass instead


Sep 09, 2009 at 09:14 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


Tariq Gibran wrote:
Unfortunately, unless Leica adds a distance scale on that focus wheel such as the Sigma DP's have, zone focusing will be tricky.


Or a distance scale on the LCD would be fine, like in the LX3. For the life of me I dont understand why the EP-1 and GF1 dont have one, how hard is it to make it? BTW I saw a video somewhere of the X1 shooting and the shutter is *really* quiet, it sounds like a clock: tik-tik-tik...
Another "why not" for the EP-1/GF1...

edit: found the video:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/x1.shtml


Edited on Sep 09, 2009 at 09:19 PM · View previous versions



Sep 09, 2009 at 09:15 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


mfurman wrote:
I am seriously thinking of getting one. By the way GF1 with a Leica 35 mm equivalent lens would cost a bit more than $2000 (actually something like $5000 +)


A GF1 with the same equivalent would cost $1100 or so, the M.Zuiko 17/2.8 is an excellent little lens and pretty much matches the Elmarit on the X1 for speed and FoV. I'd be surprised if the 24 Elmarit on the X1 was any better than the M.Zuiko.



Sep 09, 2009 at 09:15 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


With that price and a fixed lens, I don't think I'm interested.

One of the reasons to buy a Leica (in my opinion) is the elegance and quality of the design and machining. When you look at a Leica MP, M7 or M8, it does kind of take your breath away, even aside from picture quality. The X1 doesn't do that for me, but perhaps it looks better in-person.

If I want a walk-around camera, I think the GF1 looks a lot more interesting to me, even though it's a smaller sensor. With a 20mm 1.7 or with a 14-45 3.5-5.6 it's $900 U.S. With both lenses, it's about $1250. Seems like a much better deal and I would assume it's physically smaller. And that's at list price. Some time after release, it will probably go for less. But new Leicas are almost never discounted.

If I were rich enough that spending money didn't matter, I might go for an M9 (or an M7). But since it matters a lot, I don't think they'll ever be a Leica in my hands.

It will be interesting to see if/how Nikon/Canon react to both the GF1 and the X1.



Sep 09, 2009 at 09:28 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


I don't know of too many examples where a smaller sensor camera outperforms a larger sensor camera. I would expect the X1 to be a significant step up in IQ over the m43 cameras. The 35mm equivalent focal length is perfect for this type of camera. To get this on m43 you need a 17mm lens, which starts to get expensive if you consider Leica lenses.

I'll wait for the reviews, but for now the X1 looks very tempting indeed. Would prefer black though!



Sep 10, 2009 at 03:13 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


Interesting indeed, will wait to see the reviews... I guess my interest is in the fact that Leica products seem to deliver the goods with IQ, and 35mm equiv lens on a large sensor, compact body, sounds compelling... Would suit my (walk-around, but not landscape) shooting style perfectly...

Then again, I already have D700 and ZF 35/2, so don't need it - my setup already offers me great IQ, which might well be superior to the Leica one (although MF)... The appeal is in the relative compactness of the Leica setup, so will still be interested in seeing how well it performs!



Sep 10, 2009 at 04:16 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


No. Way too expensive for a compact. Digital compacts are by definition close to disposable in my opinion and therefore need a low price tag. They dont retain their value, are outdated after a couple of years... However if the M9 gets a better street price in a year or two....


Sep 10, 2009 at 04:52 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


mawz:
the M.Zuiko 17/2.8 is an excellent little lens


I must be misunderstanding you. Do you mean a pancake 17/2.8 lens? Is that one, you say, it is better than a Leica lens?



Sep 10, 2009 at 06:21 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


I cannot fathom why anyone would go for this over the GF1 and a 20mm f/1.7. Protruding lens barrel, expensive, limited to a single focal length, relatively slow lens for a prime... I just don't get it. If it had a 50mm-equivalent f/1.4 it would be a different story, but Leica just completely missed the mark, imo.


Sep 10, 2009 at 11:57 AM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Anyone thinking about a Leica X1?


Sam Bennett wrote:
I cannot fathom why anyone would go for this over the GF1 and a 20mm f/1.7. Protruding lens barrel, expensive, limited to a single focal length, relatively slow lens for a prime... I just don't get it. If it had a 50mm-equivalent f/1.4 it would be a different story, but Leica just completely missed the mark, imo.


Not everyone wants shallow DOF, and some people prefer the classic 35mm FOV typically used by photojournalists and street photographers. Also is much more versatile unless you're shooting portraits, in which case a discreet camera is not required.



Sep 10, 2009 at 12:02 PM
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