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Just a place holder for now until I can get this right. **One table and backdrop was harmed in the making of this photo**

C&C always welcome.
Photogunny

Aug 23, 2009 at 03:19 AM

cardsunited 1-time assignment winner

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · #359 Fire and Ice

Argh! You beat me to it.

Aug 23, 2009 at 07:45 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · #359 Fire and Ice

I was working on the same idea. You've done it well. I'll head in another direction.

Chris

Aug 23, 2009 at 10:31 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · #359 Fire and Ice

Thank you both (Cardsunited, Chris). I knew it was going to be used and had to get it in early. God luck this week.

Aug 23, 2009 at 02:27 PM

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... and one husband harmes after being mauled by wife

Great concept!

Aug 23, 2009 at 07:42 PM

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hanamj wrote:
... and one husband harmes after being mauled by wife

Great concept!

Fortunately she is very understanding...plus, if it wasn't for her...I wouldn't have noticed the fire (too focused through viewfinder). All I heard was "Oh, the table and cloth are on fire"...END OF SHOOT!

Thanks for looking.

Aug 23, 2009 at 08:39 PM

Bill Sutherland 4-time assignment winner

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Very well developed and an excellent result. Hope that the damage wasn't too great.

Taking nothing away from your image, you may want to look at the following shot which won this same assignment about a year ago: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/00/267800.jpg

Aug 23, 2009 at 08:57 PM

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Bill Sutherland wrote:
Very well developed and an excellent result. Hope that the damage wasn't too great.

Taking nothing away from your image, you may want to look at the following shot which won this same assignment about a year ago: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/00/267800.jpg

I knew it was on here once before...I just couldn't find it. I tried and tried and feared posting it as I didn't want to be seen copying, etc. I am not really here to win anything anyway and just like the feedback so I can learn. Last years image is what I was shooting for, but for some reason, couldn't get the ice to be "whiter" and not pick up the orange glow of the fire. Thanks for posting it.

Aug 23, 2009 at 09:01 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · #359 Fire and Ice

I wonder if that previous winning photo is lit by a secondary (maybe LED) source below it perhaps? Since the flame does cast the glow otherwise.

Aug 25, 2009 at 01:15 AM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · #359 Fire and Ice

Bill, it wasn't the same challenge a year ago. The theme then was Fire and Ice. This fits fine for this challenge.

Nice job. I have no idea how to keep the ice from glowing red. I guess a strobe with a snout would work to focus on the ice.

Aug 25, 2009 at 08:50 AM

Bill Sutherland 4-time assignment winner

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · #359 Fire and Ice

DaveNitsche wrote:
Bill, it wasn't the same challenge a year ago. The theme then was Fire and Ice. This fits fine for this challenge.

Nice job. I have no idea how to keep the ice from glowing red. I guess a strobe with a snout would work to focus on the ice.

Just to set the record straight, check out WA 266 (theme name "Opposites") Fire and ice was the titled image by James Markus. Last week in September, 2007. Perhaps James could enlighten us on the lighting question.

Aug 25, 2009 at 06:44 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · #359 Fire and Ice

All, if I need to pull it down, I will. Again, I don't want to be thought upon as one that is stealing or cheating.
I would love to know how it is done, without photoshoping the flames in.

Aug 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · #359 Fire and Ice

Seriously, don't worry about it. With the same themes cropping up, some crossoever is bound to occur.

Hey, great minds think alike, remember:

Aug 26, 2009 at 12:19 AM

Steve Spencer 2-time assignment winner

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I think the shot is a great illustration of the theme. Really nice work.

Aug 26, 2009 at 06:56 AM

James Markus 23-time assignment winner

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If anyone is interested I made the setup like this...
http://www.photomatter.com/_images/WebPosts2/LightingSetup.jpg

I used Kevin Kurtz great lighting setup photoshop file to make the above image showing the lighting setup. The ice was extra cooled using dry ice to give it that dusty white appearance, and to control melting. I'm not positive what I used on the boom...it may have been a 20 degree grid, or a home made snoot. I'm also not positive on the combustible fluid, because I used at least four different kinds.

Aug 26, 2009 at 06:19 PM

James Markus 23-time assignment winner

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · #359 Fire and Ice

Good luck with your entry Michael...I know it isn't easy to get these fire and ice shots. I practiced on a weber grill the first day I did mine...that way I could put it out by just putting the lid on it. Oh, and ventilation is real important.

Aug 26, 2009 at 07:21 PM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · #359 Fire and Ice

James Markus wrote:
Good luck with your entry Michael...I know it isn't easy to get these fire and ice shots. I practiced on a weber grill the first day I did mine...that way I could put it out by just putting the lid on it. Oh, and ventilation is real important.

James,

Thanks, as I said, I would pull it down if anyone thought it was inappropriate. I tried and tried to find the original so I wasn't just "copying" the image but trying a different route. I really appreciate the feedback on this and the setup diagram. Unfortunately, I don't have all of the equipment you have just yet (still using desk lamps to light stuff).
I was actually asked the other day if I have ever tried to add a combustible fluid into the water and then freeze...that way the whole Ice block would light. I haven't tried but have been curious to see if it actually would freeze (not sure what the freezing point is of lighter fluid) or if it would actually light.

Again, thanks for the comments. It is you guys that help push my limits of what I can do and teach me.
Thanks,
Michael

Aug 28, 2009 at 02:00 PM


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