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Will Patterson
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p.9 #1 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


kazman442 wrote:
Will what does the video look like at those shutter speeds?



It looks perfectly fine. The only real change I've noticed while shooting is if I specify H2 ISO, I can see the grain.

Another thing I noticed is that if I change the shutter speed to a faster value, then it just automatically increases the ISO, no matter what I've picked for the ISO. If I slow the shutter speed down, even all the way to 5", it shows me a good exposure and the video looks ok, albeit full of noise.

For example, from where I"m sitting in my dimly lit living room, I picked ISO 1600, f/3.5, and a shutter speed of 1/4". If I slow the shutter speed down to 1/2", 1", it does NOT increase the exposure, but, if I go to 1/6", 1/8", 1/10", the video gets darker. This is all in manual mode. I'm assuming the video is maxing out at 1/30" and so it CANT go brighter? It's just that, no matter if I crank the ISO up to H2, the video will not get any brighter. But, it will get darker if I go -1 or -2.

So unless I'm missing something, it still does a lot on its own, no matter if you've chosen a specific ISO or not in low light situations.

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Jun 01, 2009 at 09:03 PM
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p.9 #2 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Will Patterson wrote:
It looks perfectly fine. The only real change I've noticed while shooting is if I specify H2 ISO, I can see the grain.

Another thing I noticed is that if I change the shutter speed to a faster value, then it just automatically increases the ISO, no matter what I've picked for the ISO. If I slow the shutter speed down, even all the way to 5", it shows me a good exposure and the video looks ok, albeit full of noise.

So unless I'm missing something, it still does a lot on its own, no matter if you've chosen
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In the PDF they talk about a auto ISO enabled or not



Jun 01, 2009 at 09:06 PM
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p.9 #3 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


As suggested, a crop mode would be ideal!
It would be even more advantageous to manufacture an adapter for the Canon 3.4mm - 20.4mm f/1.6-2.6L IS Wide Angle Zoom HD Video lens and to be used with the center portion of the sensor, but keeping HD quality.
http://www.adorama.com/CA6XHD.html
A far reach, but really cool.



Jun 01, 2009 at 09:11 PM
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p.9 #4 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


OK, it has finally decided to start letting me change the apeture as I'm recording, I have no idea why it wasn't before. I'm going to play with it outside in the daylight tomorrow.


Jun 01, 2009 at 09:24 PM
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p.9 #5 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Excellent! It works.


Jun 01, 2009 at 09:46 PM
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p.9 #6 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


downloading .. downloading .. cant wait ...
I guess I will only be able to try it tomorrow anyway



Jun 01, 2009 at 09:57 PM
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p.9 #7 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Will Patterson wrote:
Another thread about this is not necessary.


actually posting to his new thread would have made a lot more sense, no people have to wade through 6 pages jsut to find where the actual release and usage info starts, we really should kill this thread and use his fresh one....



Jun 01, 2009 at 10:22 PM
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p.9 #8 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Will Patterson wrote:
I just tried it and no, I can't change any of that WHILE recording. I can change it right before I hit the Set button to start recording.

WHILE I'm recording, if I hold down the shutter button half way, on the left of the rear LCD it shows me the resolution I'm shooting at, what focusing mode I'm using (AF QUICK for example), and exposure compensation.

One thing I just noticed is that if I turn the big dial on the back to adjust EC, the video will get darker from the middle, but if I go into the +
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are you sure you have it set to stills+movie as well as movie display as well as setting dial to M?

I did that and it won't let me pick under 1/30th and I can change aperture and shutter speed and ISO while recording.

one ironic thing is we finally have a working autoiso (one that works in M mode) but only for movies still not for stills!

but wow, this is great for video, sooooo nice to finaly control things and not have it doing screwy stuff all the time noen of which was clear exactly what screwy stuff it had been doing.

want your 1/48th jsut pick 1/50th and you are set, want f/1.4 pick it and it stays, want f/8 indoors, you got it. soooooo nice. total M control or M+AutoISO, perfect.

jsut gotta go pick up some ND now for f/1.4 in the sun without 1/4000th chop.



Jun 01, 2009 at 10:26 PM
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p.9 #9 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Will Patterson wrote:
It looks perfectly fine. The only real change I've noticed while shooting is if I specify H2 ISO, I can see the grain.

Another thing I noticed is that if I change the shutter speed to a faster value, then it just automatically increases the ISO, no matter what I've picked for the ISO. If I slow the shutter speed down, even all the way to 5", it shows me a good exposure and the video looks ok, albeit full of noise.

For example, from where I"m sitting in my dimly lit living room, I picked ISO 1600, f/3.5, and
...Show more

are you sure installed 1.1.0??

it sounds like you are in regular mode and the camera is doing what it wants and your settings are just what it uses for stills like before or random with no bearing on actual footage like before as well just tracking stills.

for one it is impossible to get longer than 1/30th exposure if you are shooting at 30fps.... just think about it. no company in the world can make that happen no matter what the firmware or hardware....



Jun 01, 2009 at 10:28 PM
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p.9 #10 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Looks great -I'm using manual ISO and I set it to what I want and it keeps that setting. I can change aperture, shutter speed and ISO while recording and it actually changes the exposure without trying to compensate. I finally feel like I'm driving stick instead of auto!
I just recorded a test clip of my friend making scones. I'll post it (unedited with no music) in an hour on Vimeo.



Jun 01, 2009 at 10:50 PM
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p.9 #11 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Now if only Canon enabled 24p mode, this would be the greatest camcorder, ever.


Jun 01, 2009 at 11:42 PM
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p.9 #12 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


It works great!


Jun 02, 2009 at 01:39 AM
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p.9 #13 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


it does work!! make sure you have it on live mode coz it didnt seem to work on live (face) mode!

all I need is an external mic as you can here the aperture closing/opening!!

thanks Canon



Jun 02, 2009 at 02:20 AM
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p.9 #14 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Is there a .pdf user guide for the 1.1.0 firmware?


Jun 02, 2009 at 02:28 AM
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p.9 #15 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Not read the whole thread but this update is great news for video makers using the 5D2. I can imagine that the quality of amateur video that we see will just keep going up, i personally can't wait to see what people start producing with this camera now. It's going to be to play with too.

Chris



Jun 02, 2009 at 02:31 AM
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p.9 #16 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Paolo Dolina wrote:
Is there a .pdf user guide for the 1.1.0 firmware?


http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/firm-e/eos5dmk2/download.html?submitButtonName=I+Agree



Jun 02, 2009 at 02:34 AM
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p.9 #17 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


skibum5 wrote:
are you sure installed 1.1.0??

it sounds like you are in regular mode and the camera is doing what it wants and your settings are just what it uses for stills like before or random with no bearing on actual footage like before as well just tracking stills.

for one it is impossible to get longer than 1/30th exposure if you are shooting at 30fps.... just think about it. no company in the world can make that happen no matter what the firmware or hardware....




I got it to not let me go below 1/30th and ISO H1 this morning, I'm not sure how I was making it do what I was saying last night, I could go to H2 and way below 1/30th. Hmm..



Jun 02, 2009 at 06:26 AM
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p.9 #18 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Will Patterson wrote:
I got it to not let me go below 1/30th and ISO H1 this morning, I'm not sure how I was making it do what I was saying last night, I could go to H2 and way below 1/30th. Hmm..



Maybe it only lets you use the 'special' settings at night!



Jun 02, 2009 at 07:09 AM
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p.9 #19 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


I bet you had it in exposure simulation mode.


Jun 02, 2009 at 08:25 AM
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p.9 #20 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


It's always been in exposure simulation mode and it was this morning when it was not letting me go below 1/30th and above H1.


Jun 02, 2009 at 09:17 AM
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