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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 28mm options on EOS


I'm looking for a sharp 28mm lens for full frame (Canon 1DsIII and 5DII) and would be willing to try some alternative gear and am looking for some advice.

How is the Olympus OM 28/3.5 vs the Olympus OM 28/2.8 MC ? How does the color balance look vs. typical Canon? What adapter?

What are some other options I should be looking at?

Thanks.



Dec 03, 2008 at 09:29 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 28mm options on EOS


Either of those Oly 28's should be fine. Grab whichever you find first. The cost of either will be very cheap. I have the 2.8 version and its a nice, bright, compact lens with good build quality.

The adapters are easy to find. Ebay has tons of them. Fotodiox sells them as well. There is no surgery or mods needed to get these Olympus lenses to work on your Canon.

Thats the good news. The bad news is that you might fall victim to this "alt lens" madness, and spend all your time on this silly forum, buying lots of lenses you never even thought about before and wrestle with conversion issues. So, don't say you have not been warned...



Dec 03, 2008 at 09:35 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 28mm options on EOS


Those are good choices. the Oly 28/2 is excellent as well. Minolta 28/2 can be adapted with some work. The vivitar series 1 f/1.9 is quite good overall also (I'll have one to sell soon, adapted to EOS). Pentax had a 28/2 or 28/2.8 (probably both) that would be worth looking at also I'd think

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Dec 03, 2008 at 09:41 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 28mm options on EOS


IMO, the best available 28mm for FF photography is the Contax Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 28/2.8. It goes for about $300 in really fine used condition [E++ to M-].


Dec 03, 2008 at 09:48 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 28mm options on EOS


The Nikon 28mm 2.8 AI-s has fallen off the radar in recent times, but it was one of the most highly regarded wide angles for F mount, if not the most highly regarded. The Nikon engineers were apparently given free rein, regardless of profit margins and marketing etc., to make the best lens they could.

In my tests on my current 450D - I sold my 5D some months ago in anticipation of the obvious - it does a bit better resolution wise at a very high pixel density than the Oly 28 3.5 with better bokeh (the Oly is terrible in that dept) and good contrast (not too high or too low).

I was never blown away by the C/Y 28, and there are plenty of people around who feel it is overrated. It was just meh - about the same as the Oly 28 3.5 (which, considering it costs $50, is still a bargain - the C/Y, not so much). The Oly 3.5 also transmits light much more like an f4.0 lens from tests done against other lenses at 4.0 - the same exposure time as the other lenses at 4.0 gets the same exposure. The Oly is absolutely tiny, and I may well keep it around as a pancake for my 450D. I thought manual lenses would suck to use on the 450D and they do, until you use liveview, which is simply a godsend for manual focus. The viewfinder of the 450D is utterly useless, however, and it's not ideal holding the camera a foot from your face.

The Nikon is good enough to become my one and only moderate wide angle prime - I will sell the much more expensive ZF 35 in the near future. Be careful which version you get - there are AI lenses and AI-S e lenses, which are vastly inferior (apparently). It is worth consideration among the very best moderate wide angles, IMO, though I haven't seen the corners on FF yet. The corners are, according to other tests, good right from wide open - better than either the Oly 2.0 or the C/Y, according to 16:9.

On the downside, the focus ring and aperture are a bit loose on my copy. Not sure if that is a general property of these lenses.



Dec 03, 2008 at 10:40 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 28mm options on EOS


Another vote for Nikon 28/2.8 AIS.


Dec 03, 2008 at 11:25 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 28mm options on EOS


Here's a test of 13 different 28mm lenses:

28mm lenses




Dec 03, 2008 at 11:49 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 28mm options on EOS


I have the Zeiss 28 2.8 and like it very much on crop-cameras. To get sharp corners on FF it has to be stopped down to at least f5.6.


Dec 03, 2008 at 11:54 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 28mm options on EOS


If you looking for cheaper lens with similar results, the SMC-Takumar 28/3,5 is pretty good (colours, sharpness, contrast)


Dec 04, 2008 at 12:01 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 28mm options on EOS


jcolwell wrote:
IMO, the best available 28mm for FF photography is the Contax Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 28/2.8. It goes for about $300 in really fine used condition [E++ to M-].


There are multiple copies for under that price on the Buy & Sell board
right now. I just bought one.
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/710516



Dec 04, 2008 at 04:29 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 28mm options on EOS


What about the Nikkor 28/2.0 Ai and AIS? I was just playing with one of those today and it was really great. I think the obvious choice is the Canon EF 28/1.8 USM. That lens is spectacular and plenty sharp for reality.


Dec 04, 2008 at 04:57 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 28mm options on EOS


Although these are all good options, what many people regard as the best 28mm is the latest version of the Leica 28mm elmarit (i.e., f/2.8). It is quite expensive (I believe brainiac has one on sale now on the B & S for about $900 which is a very good price), but from the shots I have seen the colors are phenomenal and it is reported sharp corner to corner from f/2.8 through f/16.


Dec 04, 2008 at 05:36 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 28mm options on EOS


What do you want it for. The Zeiss is outstanding if you can stop down to f8


Dec 04, 2008 at 06:06 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 28mm options on EOS



Many people including myself have never got really sharp corners with the Zeiss even when stopped down. The Ol28 3.5 is better in this regard but is flare prone. The ultimate 28mm is the Leica 28mm ROM



Dec 04, 2008 at 06:56 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · 28mm options on EOS


Andi Dietrich wrote:
What do you want it for. The Zeiss is outstanding if you can stop down to f8


That's about where I use it - for landscapes.



Dec 04, 2008 at 07:27 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 28mm options on EOS


here are FF samples at f5.6 or f8, can't really remember, on the first I used a rubber hood which vignettes quite a bit btw. If I want perfect corners I stop down to f11.
Here I wanted to have some OOF effect and avoid bluring the waves



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Dec 04, 2008 at 08:04 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · 28mm options on EOS


shirozina wrote:
Many people including myself have never got really sharp corners with the Zeiss even when stopped down. The Ol28 3.5 is better in this regard but is flare prone. The ultimate 28mm is the Leica 28mm ROM


The Leica is certainly the ultimate if you want to be able to shoot at f2.8 or f4, and also if you care about extreme corners where the Zeiss isn't spectacular. The Olys are nice, but in this age of 21 megapixels, their days on the podium with Zeiss and Leica may be numbered. Stopping down to f11 isn't ideal with 21 megapixels: you will see a very slight reduction in sharpness over the whole frame. I have all three Oly 28's, and the Contax and Leica. The Contax is good enough for me, as I don't shoot landscapes, and 98% of my use of this focal length is with flash at f8 or f11. For low light the Leica's f2.8 performance is just beautiful. With a 5D2 it will really rock. It's also very sexy on a 450D.

Don't get the Leica 28 version 2 confused with the not very good version 1. They are chalk and cheese.

I've just dropped my price over on B&S to £550 - a gem of a bargain!



Dec 04, 2008 at 08:11 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · 28mm options on EOS


Thanks to all for all the helpful responses.

I am looking to use the lens for landscape work f/5.6 and above, but I am really concerned about corner sharpness on full frame. I've been using a Canon 16-24 f/2.8L II at this focal length and it simply is unacceptable in the corners.

As I shoot a lot of sunsets/sunrises and such, the flare in the Oly 28mm/3.5 concerns me.

The Canon 28mm 1.8 and 2.8 lenses seem to have a poor reputation for corner sharpness on full frame, which is why I want to look at alternative options.

Is the Nikkor really in the same league as the Zeiss? I used to have a Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AI-s from my film days, but dumped it on ebay about 4 years ago, too bad.




Dec 04, 2008 at 12:27 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · 28mm options on EOS


Deleted: I was picking on the wrong guy.
Never mind
Move along.......
Nothing to see here.......



Dec 04, 2008 at 12:37 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · 28mm options on EOS


jcbenner wrote:
Thanks to all for all the helpful responses.

I am looking to use the lens for landscape work f/5.6 and above, but I am really concerned about corner sharpness on full frame. I've been using a Canon 16-24 f/2.8L II at this focal length and it simply is unacceptable in the corners.

As I shoot a lot of sunsets/sunrises and such, the flare in the Oly 28mm/3.5 concerns me.

The Canon 28mm 1.8 and 2.8 lenses seem to have a poor reputation for corner sharpness on full frame, which is why I want to look at alternative options.

Is the Nikkor really in the
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If 28mm is really important to you, buy several lenses and test. If you look at Leica just be sure the lens you pick can be mounted on Canon.
I have 4 or 5 28's I'm going to test for the same purpose as you. But I'm waiting for my 5DII.



Dec 04, 2008 at 12:44 PM
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