p.2 #1 · Photography - where is it heading to? Need inputs.
mdude85 wrote:
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What is the reason to try to impress me with a listing of consumer theorists and your "two page bibliography"? If you're looking for "titles which cover photography from an operations strategy perspective", then how do you intend to find your answers on a forum which covers such topics as "Do Most Pros Shoot RAW?", "Slideshow making..." and "Problems with Smugmug"? I understand this forum could be a "jumping off point" for your research but it's very very far from authoritative. It's almost detrimental to some degree.
If you're looking for a forum where a lot of people complain about their business model without even stopping to think that it could be obsolete, then this would be the place to hang out. ...Show more →
- Your next assumption (after assuming I didnīt do any research at all) is that I wanīt to impress you. Not at all. I just wanted to point out, that I already roamed throught the library.
- Why ask? Because ppl like you seem to have all the answers.
- Why ask II? Because I think ppl (photographers) on this forum are not as brainless as you portrait them and lots of them have more thoughts and insights than Smugmug-problems.
p.2 #2 · Photography - where is it heading to? Need inputs.
- Your next assumption (after assuming I didnīt do any research at all) is that I wanīt to impress you. Not at all. I just wanted to point out, that I already roamed throught the library.
- Why ask? Because ppl like you seem to have all the answers.
- Why ask II? Because I think ppl (photographers) on this forum are not as brainless as you portrait them and lots of them have more thoughts and insights than Smugmug-problems.
Freerider72
You have made some interesting points.
One of the major problems with this industry is that it is "artistic." I don't mean that in a negative way.
Artists have been notoriously under payed. Unless they are dead or highly respected when alive they have to fly by the seat of their pants. They really suffer a lot and most of them are very very poor businessmen.
Please take a hard look at what schools offer photography in their curriculum.
Please note how few they are.
Part of the reason is because the industry is on a fly with technology innovations coming down the pike at break neck speed. Unless you are a super technocrat you have a hard learning curve between cameras and developing (Software applications). Let alone teach it.
On the commercial level advertising is king.
Look to that industry to see what photography will offer in the future.
The commercial demands by the advertising industry are going to force the creative minds to wrap their heads around new markets and marketing. Unless they have the where with all they will fall into the ranks of the Ho hum picture taker.
p.2 #4 · Photography - where is it heading to? Need inputs.
Freerider72 wrote:
If you're looking for a forum where a lot of people complain about their business model without even stopping to think that it could be obsolete, then this would be the place to hang out.
- Your next assumption (after assuming I didnīt do any research at all) is that I wanīt to impress you. Not at all. I just wanted to point out, that I already roamed throught the library.
- Why ask? Because ppl like you seem to have all the answers.
- Why ask II? Because I think ppl (photographers) on this forum are not as brainless as you portrait them and lots of them have more thoughts and insights than Smugmug-problems. ...Show more →
Who ever said I had all the answers? Did I say that? Because I don't recall saying that. Maybe you said that.
If you wanted to point out that you had already roamed through the library, then all you had to do was say that you roamed through the library and it would have been competely sufficient.
They are about as brainless as I portray them, at least a lot are. Myself included. We are all brainless to some extent. Our opinions about "where photography is headed" are shaped by our own experiences, and sometimes these experiences reflect a very narrow view of the market that is not be shared by everyone or even anyone but the person disclosing them. That is why I stand by my original suggestion that at best this forum can provide some interesting anecdotal evidence of interest to the reader, but should by no means be taken as an accurate assessment of where the market is headed.
p.2 #5 · Photography - where is it heading to? Need inputs.
- What is coming [in] the next 10 years?
Holographic Imaging - It's already here but display devices aren't mass produced yet. In 10 years you WILL see R2D2 style projections of video, photography, interactive and non-interactive. Non-interactive projections (like R2D2) are already here actually - just not mass produced. We'll see image sensors that use radio frequency (microwave-burst) assisted Z-Buffer generation in combination with Light-Field array technology in order to produce these images and videos.
At first this technology will likely emerge as a "Digital Refocusing" feature. I'm actually a bit surprised we haven't already seen this presented as an in-camera feature.
- Where do you see new, emerging markets?
In 10 years? I think we'll see the "markets" of the world collapse. I think in the next 5 to 10 years we will see billions of people die. Some say only 2 billion while others estimate 6 billion. The controllers "want" 6 billion to die as has been stated in their various self authored books and papers. And they state that they wish to accomplish this by 2012 - tho I think they're going to be a little late. A lot depends on the American people. If they take back Washington, put the banking "elite" in prison where they belong, and abolish the federal reserve and it's fractional reserve (counterfeiting) money system this might not even happen. Some also depends on the Arabs - whether or not they can resist being bankrupted by the by the low prices being placed on oil just for that reason. This will surely affect "markets" of all kinds in ways I cannot guess. Lots of street crime, lots of federal police state organizations springing up, etc. If that doesn't happen (even tho I'm certain that it will) then I guess this new "3D" photography may be coupled with material printers in order to sell various kinds of virtual reality-kits. Print your own guitar body, print your own dinning set (plates, bowls, forks, spoons, cups, etc.) etc. It might even be assisted by nano-bot self-assembling systems for surface finishing and etc.
- What developements come next?
See above
- How should we adapt to the new challenges?
We should run like hell! These are the gadgets of the utopian societies that we've been promised again and again repeatedly in the past. Each time millions of humans were put to death, China, Russia, Germany. All were promised a technological utopia based on socialism. Kinda like the film "Zeitgeist Addendum". It's the standard black eugenicists' game to bring such promised technologies to the forefront while engineering depopulation schemes and executing the real agenda - power and wealth grabs, elimination of the middle class and etc.. The technology itself if it actually comes to fruition will not require much adaptation over how we interact with technology now. According to these same "planners" we will become more immersed in it however - as we've already seen with the PC, the cell phone, navigation systems in our cars, and etc. How should we adapt? We shouldn't. We should all spend our time planting gardens, moving OUT of the city areas, and reconnecting with nature.
PS: If you use any of these ideas in your paper you have to give me credit.
p.2 #6 · Photography - where is it heading to? Need inputs.
Bifurcator wrote:
In 10 years? I think we'll see the "markets" of the world collapse. I think in the next 5 to 10 years we will see billions of people die. Some say only 2 billion while others estimate 6 billion.
1 billion people populating the entire world would be a sight to see indeed! I understand your post is meant as a joke, however, be careful as it may just end up in somebody's college thesis
p.2 #7 · Photography - where is it heading to? Need inputs.
On the technical side, CDM Optics is doing interesting work in Wavefront Coding, which allows virtually infinite Depth Of Field. They are targeting high-volume applications (i.e. cell phone cams), but I assume this technology might make its way into DSLRs.
I apologize for the tough crowd you're dealing with here. This used to be a good forum to go to for help and insight.
p.2 #8 · Photography - where is it heading to? Need inputs.
I've read that in the latest IKEA catalogue about 30% of the content is computer generated. They can even change the images so that they have a lower sun for the nordic markets and a higher placed sun to make the images more appealing to markets nearer to the equator. I'm referring to how the sun shines throught the windows)
It saves them lots of money since they otherwise have to build up every room before taking the shots, but they have several teams of graphic artists in various contries.
I think computer generated content will be more and more prevalent, maybe we will soon see images where the models are totally artificial!
OTOH we may also see a backlash where traditional photography will be percieved as more valuable, for example in classic family portraiture.
p.2 #9 · Photography - where is it heading to? Need inputs.
Wow -- extremely tough crowd -- I bet you didn't realize the 'freerider' moniker would get you into this much trouble! Assuming you are not freeriding -- and it's beyond me why anyone would start with such a nasty assumption without knowing how lazy you really are (it's not even clear how lazy you are relative to the 71 other freeriders out there ) -- it seems quite logical to me to engage folks on the board about the future of the 'photog biz'. Even if "only" anecdotal, you may learn something from the responses returned that may help you better appreciate the arguments and gaps in the "academic" literature -- e.g. defensiveness and uneasiness in responses may fit into a wider theory about how individual pros are responding to the rapid pace of technological (or other?)change within the "industry" (perhaps not well for those on the defensive!).
That said, what I find interesting are questions about the impact of law on the changes that are being seen within photography -- globally, although my understanding is limited to North America. Typically, when talking about the interaction between law and photography folks tend to be decrying the erosion of intellectual property rights from the perspective of the image maker. These debates are relevant and interesting. But, in the context of photography's future, we might also think about that interaction in other ways. For example -- and I'm simplifying here -- how pros (typically editorial/PJ) have used exclusivity-type agreements with event organizers which exclude non-credentialed photographers from gaining access to events, arenas etc. While obviously not new, these agreements may represent opportunities for pros to resist the proliferation of photographic technology (the popularization of pro gear, "everyone" has a camera, "democratization" of image making, or however you might want to put it depending on what perspective you approach these issues from). Of course, if you see this proliferation as not negative but rather positive (i.e. as meaningful democratization) -- for example if you believe in say street journalism or photography -- then you might address the negative impact of these types of agreements on that trend. The question then is does or how might law provide "new chances" for pros or conversely how might law limit those chances for non-credentialed types?
Another extremely interesting trend to me relates to the strobist(David Hobby)-Chase Jarvis-youtube phenomenon where pros are heavily involved in -- indeed capitalizing on -- the "democratizing" process. They are finding new ways through new technologies such as youtube, flickr and the like to promote photography -- perhaps some for photography's sake, others out of a very narrow self interest. These may appear to be well established trends in North America and "the West" but not necessarily elsewhere. Then the critical questions are about avenues and opportunities and limitations of this process(es) -- for example, can a successful business model be developed to harness these processes? What role does or ought teaching/giving back play within the biz model of an individual photographer and within the wider photog/image making community?
These issues -- and your wider interest in the future of the biz -- are too exciting and important not to be taken seriously by those on this board, yourself included.
p.2 #10 · Photography - where is it heading to? Need inputs.
mdude85 wrote: 1 billion people populating the entire world would be a sight to see indeed! I understand your post is meant as a joke, however, be careful as it may just end up in somebody's college thesis
Nope, not meant as a joke at all. Nelson Rockefeller, John D., Prince Philip, many of the Rothchilds, Bill Clinotn's professor and moral mentor, and many prominent leaders in Zionism have all stated in numerous writings a stated goal of depopulating the Earth to about 500 million people. When they say it themselves I tend to believe they want it and are trying for it. They say they are anyway. Hitler got most of his eugenics programs from the very same families and we all know what he was trying for. I believe those goals remain but only the methods of achieving them have been altered.
