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p.1 #1 · 5D2 Production Video


Here's my first.
Just a glimpse...
Another to follow . . .
I have a 3.5GB One I did in the car to see how long you could shoot.
Got bored after 10 mins



Another one will follow then I've done my limit for the week . .

Using another site, will post when it's uploaded (If any ionterest)

Rob



Nov 23, 2008 at 09:36 AM
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p.1 #2 · 5D2 Production Video


Hi Rob,

Congratulations on grabbing one of the first 5D MkII's out there...you must be thrilled! Thanks so much for taking the time to share your video samples with everyone here!

I am amongst those who are excited about about the camera's HD video capabilities and would very much like to hear more from you about this. In particular, I am aware that there is no way to lock down any of the camera's exposure settings (i.e. ISO, shutter speed, or aperture) while shooting video and so the user is pretty much left at the mercy of the camera's internal programming for deciding what is best for any given movie clip.

Where I would find this problematic is when shooting a scene where the lighting requirements would be changing and the camera would have to make decisions on how to adjust to those variations. Your video clip, in fact, demonstrates this camera-induced exposure variation quite clearly. As the girl in the white jacket walks towards center-frame, the camera (with some delay) adjusts the exposure parameters causing the neutral grey walkway to, at first, darken when she reaches center-frame (compensating for the brightness of her coat) and, then, relighten as she passes out of frame (compensating for the, now, darker scene without her bright coat).

Not that videography is your main interest (I say this after visiting your two web locations, very nice images, btw!), but I thought it might be worthwhile for those of us considering this camera, based on its added video capabilities, to see more video clips where the scene lighting changes dramatically between light and dark. That you have either the time or the inclination to try this out and to post your results, I am sure I would not be alone in my appreciation for your efforts!

Again, thank you for sharing your experiences with the new camera and happy shooting!

Peace,
Jimmy G



Nov 23, 2008 at 01:42 PM
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p.1 #3 · 5D2 Production Video


You are wrong there Jimmy, All of those parameters can be locked in by hitting the * button on the back. Setting it up in custom functions further aids this as you can make it stay locked at whatever settings are locked in until you hit the * key again. That is, you can keep the exposure locked down even after hitting start and stop on different scenes, or if you turn the custom function off, the lockdown only lasts a couple of seconds. This locking of the exposure has been confirmed multiple times by multiple people, including the official manual which you can download in pdf form. It is fully lockable, so that as you say, you know ahead of time something will come into the scene and change the metering, if it's locked, no change will happen, and in fact you can expose ahead of time for the change by pointing and locking down. (Ex. Car headlights at night). While the video is quite limited, there are multiple workarounds already tested or things like being able to control the aperture in video, while not ideal, it's the price you pay for getting incredible video in an already incredible still cam for an amazing price!


Nov 23, 2008 at 02:13 PM
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Hi DeepShadows,

Thanks for the heads-up on the PDF manual. You are correct that exposure can, in fact, be locked with the use of the * button (says so, clearly, on Page 124!)...>phew<! I based my comments on the information at Canon's own web page on the matter...

http://usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2186

...where, in their own words they state...

<<
In addition to the adjustable settings listed above, the following settings are made automatically by the camera and cannot be adjusted by the user:

* ISO speed
* Shutter speed (from 1/30 to 1/125)
* Aperture (varies according to lens; no arbitrary restrictions)
* Color space (sRGB)
* Exposure metering pattern (Evaluative)

Finally, the following settings do not function during Movie mode with the EOS 5D Mark II:

* High ISO Noise Reduction
* Long Exposure Noise Reduction
>>

...confusing, to say the least.

So, then, the question is, can the shooter set an exposure of, say, 1/2000th of a second to freeze, say, a golf swing and then have the camera shoot a video clip at 30fps (frames per second) with each frame being 1/2000th of a second? Or is it that, once video shooting has begun, and the camera has selected all of the exposure parameters that one can then elect to * the camera's choices to keep the rest of the take consistent? Canon's documentation is muddy on this point, showing clearly in the manual (pages 121-123) that while P/Tv/Av/M/B modes can be used for shooting movies (+stills), they simultaneously state that...

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You can take a still photo at anytime by pressing the shutter button completely, even during movie shooting. The shutter speed and aperture are set automatically. The ISO speed is also set automatically within ISO 100-3200.
>>

...!

So, what is it, locking-in of user-definable (-selectable) exposure settings or locking-in of camera-defined (-selected) exposure settings?! At this point I would ask of our OP (Rob) or any other early-adopters to experiment with this and let us know the answer.

Thanks again, DeepShadows, for the documentation tie-in on that, it certainly moves the question forward for a more definitive answer! :-)

Peace,
Jimmy G



Nov 23, 2008 at 04:39 PM
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p.1 #5 · 5D2 Production Video


Thanks for the Vid!


Nov 23, 2008 at 05:12 PM
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p.1 #6 · 5D2 Production Video


Also, as you are shooting, the Exposure can be compensated on the fly.
Just turn the flywheel left or right for more or less.
Works a treat.
Rob



Nov 23, 2008 at 06:00 PM
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p.1 #7 · 5D2 Production Video


Both Video's here .. . .
More coming.



Rob



Nov 23, 2008 at 06:06 PM
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p.1 #8 · 5D2 Production Video


Looking good, Rob!

Have you made your storage strategy for all the TB of footages you'll take? I'm still designing my external HD system for this.



Nov 23, 2008 at 06:20 PM
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p.1 #9 · 5D2 Production Video


I've got about 8TB sitting around my feet already.
It's a PITA to back up and get in shape.



Nov 23, 2008 at 06:38 PM
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p.1 #10 · 5D2 Production Video


lecter wrote:
I've got about 8TB sitting around my feet already.
It's a PITA to back up and get in shape.



Hehe.... I foresee Vimeo and other high res hosting sites crashing on the first few days of general availability of the 5d2.



Nov 23, 2008 at 06:45 PM
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p.1 #11 · 5D2 Production Video


I agree.
I've generated around . . .
369,718 Megabytes of bandwidth over night.
Unreal!!



Nov 23, 2008 at 08:25 PM
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p.1 #12 · 5D2 Production Video


I'll try to answer the questions...
I have some learning to do!



Nov 23, 2008 at 08:43 PM
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p.1 #13 · 5D2 Production Video


i'd better start shopping for storage now.


thx for the vids.



Nov 23, 2008 at 08:50 PM
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p.1 #14 · 5D2 Production Video


Was the sound from the built in mic or did you have another mic setup with the camera? I'm curious because the sound doesn't sound all that bad!

Thanks for sharing!

Jason



Nov 23, 2008 at 09:07 PM
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p.1 #15 · 5D2 Production Video


I was walking around with it.....
No Tripod
No Mic
No Brains (i.e. had not read Chinese manual)
Just enjoying the -2 Celcius

My Tripod Videos from the Birds nest are all too big for Vimeo and I cannot upgrade it because I am in China/Thailand/New Zealand or somewhere not USA . . stupid really..... They should just take paypal!!

Rob



Nov 23, 2008 at 09:15 PM
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p.1 #16 · 5D2 Production Video


lecter wrote:
I agree.
I've generated around . . .
369,718 Megabytes of bandwidth over night.
Unreal!!



You can also resize these to a more compact 1280x720 WMV to save your 500 MB a week quota (free account, 2 GB/week for paid account), unless you have to show the footage as original 1080p.



Nov 23, 2008 at 09:22 PM
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p.1 #17 · 5D2 Production Video


How did you pay?
I cannot do it from here
I have NZ, Singapore and Thailand Credit Cards
Or even a Chinese UNionPay Card.



Nov 23, 2008 at 09:50 PM
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lecter wrote:
How did you pay?
I cannot do it from here
I have NZ, Singapore and Thailand Credit Cards
Or even a Chinese UNionPay Card.



I'm still on a free account - will probably upgrade to a paid one once I get my 5d2 and need to upload more than 500 MB a week.

Here's their page for opening a paid account - they accept Visa, MC and AmEx:





Nov 23, 2008 at 10:17 PM
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p.1 #19 · 5D2 Production Video


but USA only!!


Nov 23, 2008 at 10:27 PM
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p.1 #20 · 5D2 Production Video


lecter wrote:
but USA only!!


Hmmmm..... you're right, I didn't notice it!

But they appear to be planning to go international soon, meantime I've to live with 500 MB/week.

"We currently only accept orders from US residents - International support coming soon! We promise! "



Nov 23, 2008 at 10:37 PM
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