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#59 in a Series of Impressions Threads: "Legato"
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"Legato" is a musical term that means that the composer wants the pianist to play "smoothly." I picked this title because of the smooth shapes, lines, and form of her arm, shoulder, neck and skin. But...it could also fit the music too.

THE IMAGE LINK: Impressions Image #59 "Legato"
http://www.steadmanuhlich.com/impressions59/index.html

NOTE 1: This image, when viewed over the net may appear softer than it really is as a print due to the saving of a large file for the web. The moment I saw it, I saw this "softening" effect.

Please share your impressions. That helps me as an artist and will be appreciated and enjoyed by the subject too (i.e. the pianist).

NOTE2: Read the "Tools" and "Techniques" notes below to understand how this image was made without flash and how it captures a natural moment (not posed) as the musician is actually performing a piece of music. I wrote those sections to help you with some tips.

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My Intent or Goal:
Create a Black and White portrait of this woman that shows her unique beauty. For this image I wanted to create an image that captures her while she is playing. I thought her eyes were beautiful (brown), her features very nice and her look refreshingly "natural." This image is one of several I made of her, so she became the subject of several "Impressionistic" images.

This particular image is one of a set to show one of those "moods." This one is one of the more "serious" portrait images. Now...what do YOU see?

The Piano (Prop):
For those of you who like pianos...I am sure you would like to see more of the instrument. This is a 9 foot Steinway "Model D" (New York) Grand piano. The price is about $150,000 or so for this instrument. The low notes sound like thunder and the high notes sound like crystal. Hit a key and the sound continues and continues...a lovely instrument. It is very long. It also weighs 1,000 pounds! It is a very big, heavy, expensive, and beautiful instrument (in appearance and sound).

The Figure Position (Pose):
She is actually playing the piano. Her fingers are actually pushing keys. And her gaze to the hands and keys. It is a "natural" position (in action) and not an artificial "pose." The music was beautiful and an important part of her expressions and "pose."

The Light:
She is sitting near a large window. I prefer natural light.

The Print:
This image, when printed, has completely natural and creamy mid-tones (grays) transitions that are so smooth they look like the surface of smooth water. The large glossy black and white print is really lovely and has the many tones of gray and black that an old "black and white" photographer loves to see. For example, the tones on the piano and her garments are very subtle (shadow details) but they are visible and add to the "depth" of the printed image. Too bad you won't see that over the internet. See the note below about the limits of web viewing this image. You might notice the white diagonal on the left side of the image. That is a prop that holds the top of the piano "up." It is black and what you see is a "specular" highlight that is totally natural, just a very long one. It is retained in this image as a complimentary visual element that matches the inclination of the pianist's head and arm. Remember, this is a "natural portrait."

The Tools:
My preference is for keeping the use of tools very simple. The image is made with minimal equipment and processing. The lens was a 50mm, set at f2.8 and shutter speed 1/80 sec and shot hand-held (in keeping with my nickname). I don't recommend shooting this slow unless you practice good technique and have "steady hands."

The Technique:
The most important things to use during a session like this is...patience and an open mind. Patience to see the image when the light and expression were just right. In this case, it was a moment when she inclined her body with the rhythm of the music and I saw a matching angle I liked.

Notes:
1. This is part of my Natural Expressions series and part of a project focused on pianists. So, while some "expressions" are very easy to see because of a broad smile, laugh, or scowl, this one is something more subtle, and depends on the body language or expression using the body. I don't expect everyone to see this.

2. This is a greatly reduced file for the web. Unfortunately, the image appears to lose some details at this reduction and also is beginning to show some jpg artifacts from all the saving for different sizes and formats I use on the web and in other media. So...the skin does not look as textured (sharp) (naturally) as it does in the actual print. In the original print (which appears sharper), the individual hairs on her head and her eyelashes are very distinct (as an example) and the skin has a completely natural texture (no smoothing). Also at this size on the web, the contrast is not what one sees in a final print. For example, in the web view, you may see a lack of texture in the highlight areas of the skin (or they may appear 'hot') and in the shadow areas too. In the final print there is a very natural look to the her skin, hair, and the textures of her garment. In fact, in large prints (and on my calibrated monitor) one can see the very subtle tonal differences between the background and the dark hair or black garments, including her shadow side (her left arm). She is wearing black velvet...and that is very difficult to expose while keeping the white keys and highlights at a nice point. The final print has natural texture there. It is subtle but lost in the web viewing. IN short, her black garments look better in the print than they do on the web.

3. This made a very "natural" and beautiful portrait that appears very much alive and 3-D.

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Why is an Impressions Style Thread Used Here?

Short answer: To get a different kind of discussion going on a posted image, encourage lurkers to participate, and for the artist to learn something about the interpretations or impressions evoked by the image posted.

My Simple Suggestion for this forum: Contribute what you can in photographs, or comments or Impressions (as requested here) and this will be a richer viewing experience for everyone who visits.

IF you are a lurker, this type of thread is a very easy way for you to participate in the forum and you can contribute something and it can be fun. Go ahead and jump in. If you were a lurker before, let me know that too. I am hoping this type of discussion will get more people to participate here as that will enrich the forum.

I believe many people are just lurkers because they feel they cannot post "proof" of their expertise and they may be intimidated from posting anything that would not sound "smart enough" regarding photography and the technical aspects of it. I think the technical discussions are fine for those that want them (in their own threads). I also think there are many others who may not want to get technical and enjoy their photography a different way. This is NOT about technical stuff, so feel free to be poetic or "impressionistic" as that is encouraged.

The development of this new style of thread posting (Impressions) will give an opportunity to many people who do not feel comfortable discussing photos in technical terms.

This type of thread is NOT about technical things (that is "off topic" in this kind of thread), it is simply about how you "see" and "feel" things in the image shown. So, anyone from a rank beginner or newbie to an expert can participate on equal standing. Here is your chance.

A FUN Tip: It is more fun if you look at the image before reading any other Impressions posted by others. So take a look, get an impression, add your impression at the bottom (and please give your first name and city), and then take a minute to read some of the earlier postings. You might chuckle or smile as you see how others see the same image.
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How an Impressions Discussion Works:

This is the 58th Impressions Thread I have started. IF you have never read one of these before, please read the middle and bottom of this thread before viewing the photo or posting your comments.

This type of thread or discussion is NOT about technical critiques. IF you don't understand what I mean by "Impressions," simply spend a few minutes reading below or on the linked page where the image is shown. I give tips on this type of thread and answer some questions people have asked me here before.

I have put the link to the image closer to the top of this post to make it quick and easy to find. The other detailed text below the portrait introduction is for those who want to read it or need some guidance on this new approach to discussion threads here on the forum. Over time, I will reduce the amount of text as I believe others here on the forum begin to understand the intent of this type of discussion or "Impression" thread. You are encouraged to leave your Impressions (as described below) but I do ask that you leave "Impressions" as that is the topic. IF you missed the other earlier Impressions threads I started, simply look back in the forum or search for a thread with topics starting "Your Impression?" and you will find them.


IF you feel a need to debate the value of Impressions versus Technical Criticism, then please do not do it in this thread (as that is "off topic"), and instead do it in the thread where that debate IS the topic of discussion, here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/649345

You might also enjoy reading the different "Impressions about Impressions" thread here:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/653643

It is very simple. Here is my request: To add positive value to this thread or discussion, please share your "Impressions" of the figure or face or expression or action or "total image" in the photo you see. Put very simply: "What do you see or sense about the person in the photo?" Also, please tell me your First Name + City when you give me your Impression. That is important for my Global Impressions Project (A few paragraphs describing my project are found on the page linked to the image page. You will find it on the second page if you want to know more.)

Also, I encourage you to post your own "Impressions" thread with a photo some time. Reading the variety of Impressions is very satisfying and helpful to any artist who is interested in how a work of art (photo) affects a viewer or viewers. So, try it some time. My Simple Suggestion: Place the word "Impression" as the first word of your topic title for the thread and then people will know you want Impressions rather than technical criticism. The rest is up to you.

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Nov 21, 2008 at 02:52 PM
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Before someone writes it in jest....

She is not sleeping!

This is a very natural "eyes closed" look that occurs as the pianist is either looking down at the hands/keys or while the eyes actually close while actually playing the music.



Nov 21, 2008 at 02:54 PM
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Steady,

As I said, I am a new fan. This one is a hit with me, as opposed to the last one. This one absolutely conveys "legato". The pianist appears deep in thought as she traverses a slow and elegant part of the piece she is playing. The shot does not appear posed and I expect her head to come forward that she is about to emphasize the next few bars of the piece.

Bravo!



Nov 21, 2008 at 04:48 PM
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Gordon walker wrote:
Steady,

As I said, I am a new fan. This one is a hit with me, as opposed to the last one. This one absolutely conveys "legato". The pianist appears deep in thought as she traverses a slow and elegant part of the piece she is playing. The shot does not appear posed and I expect her head to come forward that she is about to emphasize the next few bars of the piece.

Bravo!


Hi Gordon,

What you wrote above was a very good impression. While reading your words, I got the sense of the image (even without looking at it). Good description of the moment. You are so right about that moment where the pianist leans forward with the emphasis of a phrase of the music. I observed that several times with this pianist in several long passages/pieces.

I am glad you liked it.

Thanks again for participating in the discussion.



Nov 21, 2008 at 06:33 PM
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Steady,

This one in your series is particularly well titled.

Legato. I can really hear this one. In this portrait I feel myself leaning forward in anticipation of the next note. I feel forced to wait for that refrain that will let me breathe again. I sense the quiet, the stillness, and the anticipation of the audience. And if that isn't enough, the dancer's like grace of the pianist is captivating beyond words.

Bob



Nov 21, 2008 at 09:04 PM
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Delicate, relaxed yet at the same time she displays an intensity and concentration on her craft without seeming uneasy . Some beautiful lines and curves in the image. Nice tones as well. Her mouth and face being so relaxed, she is part of the music. She seems to have let herself go completely.


Nov 21, 2008 at 10:56 PM
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This is a very graceful image. There are so many wonderful lines. She looks deep in thought and peaceful at the same time.

Tim



Nov 22, 2008 at 01:18 AM
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I like the pic, I find the light a bit to hot to my liking. There are also a few hot spots in her face, that could have been toned down a bit. I like the concept, and comp. Not sure how the white diagonal line adds to the pic. But I do like the overall impression.

And I apologize for not reading the text in your posting. No need to justify your props, or over clarify your intent To much IMO. As a viewer we either get it or not.





Nov 22, 2008 at 04:40 AM
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bob parrish wrote:
Steady,

This one in your series is particularly well titled.

Legato. I can really hear this one. In this portrait I feel myself leaning forward in anticipation of the next note. I feel forced to wait for that refrain that will let me breathe again. I sense the quiet, the stillness, and the anticipation of the audience. And if that isn't enough, the dancer's like grace of the pianist is captivating beyond words.

Bob


Hi Bob,

I am glad you can "hear" this one.

Your impressions (written above) were very nice and refreshing to read. Like poetry.

I am sure the pianist will enjoy your words too.

Thanks for adding to the discussion in such a meaningful and positive way.



Nov 22, 2008 at 07:29 AM
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Tom K. wrote:
Delicate, relaxed yet at the same time she displays an intensity and concentration on her craft without seeming uneasy . Some beautiful lines and curves in the image. Nice tones as well. Her mouth and face being so relaxed, she is part of the music. She seems to have let herself go completely.


Hi Tom.

Always a pleasure to read your impressions. Truly.

I think you have an excellent way of interpreting images and I know that way of "seeing and thinking and expressing" must also influence your own photography too.

Thank you for taking the time to write down your impressions and to share them here. I will pass them on to the pianist and I know they will cause good feelings.

I am glad you liked the curves and lines too.

Good light to you.



Nov 22, 2008 at 07:32 AM
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timhpark wrote:
This is a very graceful image. There are so many wonderful lines. She looks deep in thought and peaceful at the same time.

Tim


Hi Tim,

Thanks for adding your impression too.

I like those lines and curves too. An interesting mix of curve and straight lines can make for some interesting composition elements.

The pianist did have a very peaceful look much of the time, and especially while playing this music. That you see the image as "graceful" is nice too. I get that sense and a sense of "harmony" too. A harmony of visual elements.

I am always glad to see you participate in the Impressions discussions.

Good light to you too.



Nov 22, 2008 at 07:36 AM
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This one I see a woman that appears to be involved in the music and she seems to "feel it". Seems very natural to me and is exactley what I would expect to see (lighting is much better than I've ever seen near any piano)


Nov 22, 2008 at 08:26 AM
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onebear wrote:
I like the pic, I find the light a bit to hot to my liking. There are also a few hot spots in her face, that could have been toned down a bit. I like the concept, and comp. Not sure how the white diagonal line adds to the pic. But I do like the overall impression.

And I apologize for not reading the text in your posting. No need to justify your props, or over clarify your intent To much IMO. As a viewer we either get it or not.




Hi onebear.

Thanks for adding to the discussion. And I am glad you liked the image too.

Everything written below is written in a "friendly tone of voice" and with the sole intent to help you (and others here) better understand my POV and the image and how "I see" the photograph and some aspects of photography.

So don't take it as a "dig" at you, a "poke" at you, or as anything written with "disrespect."

I say "help you understand my POV" and I mean that. I don't expect you to "agree" nor do I expect everyone to fully understand or share my POV or opinion.

You brought up a couple of points as technical observations and you stated you did not understand the place of the white diagonal line.

I understand all of your comments.

Now here is a bit of "text" to help you understand how the "artist/photographer" sees the picture elements. In this case, the "white line."

The white diagonal line is a natural part of the piano and the reflected light (a long specular highlight) is an integral part of the image composition. It leads the eye from left to center of image. It takes the eye from left edge to the face, It has an "angle" that is almost identical to the inclination (angle) of the figure. They are complements and "matched elements" in the image. It also adds a "graphic" element that is "straight" that is a counterpoint to the curves seen in the image. So it produces a little "visual tension" too. And it is "stark white" (a highlight) so it also gives the B&W image a tonal "highpoint" to increase the range of tones seen in the image. This "broadens" the image width/depth of tones. That makes a more interesting BW image.

So, in brief, I consider the white line to be a part of what makes this image "stronger" and more "visually interesting" to me. That is how "I see it."

You also mentioned the intro text and how you did not read it.
I understand that too. I expect that most people who view photos here on FM rarely read any of the written comments by either the photographer or the follow-on comments posted by the viewers. That is expected.

I don't write for the people who "don't read." I write for the people who do read (the back-story). I write all that stuff so people learning about photography (or even people who have practiced photography for years) may get insights into how the image was created. I share publicly the tools, techniques, light, methods, process, and concepts (intent) that went into making the image what it is. I also like sharing something about the subject in the portrait. I consider that important too. Because that is how I see "portraits." I see them as reflections of an individual and knowing something about the individual helps me understand the image as a reflection of personality, interests, depth, humor, or "human interest." That is how I see it or my POV.

Now your last line says "As a viewer we either get it or not."

I have heard that line and seen it written here on FM many times. I know what that statement means in a literal sense and can guess what it means as an additional "comment."

However, I do find that to be a very "subjective" statement (by definition) and truly just a point of view, one of many. I don't share that POV, nor do I think it well represents the nature of most photography and the use of photographs in general.

In fact, I think it ignores most of what good/strong/moving/interesting photographs "are" for the world and most viewers. Of course, that is a "deep subject" and would likely lead to more writing (or discussion) and that is not the "topic" of this image thread. So, I will just say that I consider the statement "as a viewer we either get it or not" as a "pat answer" or "superficial."

Put another way, I don't think most people in the world look at photographs in the same manner as photographers. I don't think they look at the "nose shadows" the "hotspots," the short DOF, the "bokeh" or other things that pre-occupy the typical photographer here. Instead, I believe more of the world looks at the "content," "emotion," and "feelings" of an image (especially images of people).

One of my goals with the detailed "writing" found in these Impressions threads is to get people here on FM to look at images more deeply and to share their feelings (in writing) about the images. An important part of that is looking beyond the "technicals" and looking at what the image represents or means or the feelings it evokes. I don't expect this approach to appeal to everyone....or put another way...I don't expect everyone to "get it."

Anyway, enough said...I hope this helps you and others better understand the Impressionist approach and even this image too.






Nov 22, 2008 at 08:27 AM
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Chetster wrote:
This one I see a woman that appears to be involved in the music and she seems to "feel it". Seems very natural to me and is exactley what I would expect to see (lighting is much better than I've ever seen near any piano)


Hi,

Thanks for adding your impressions too.

The light was nice. It came from a large window. Natural sunlight is my favorite.



Nov 22, 2008 at 08:31 AM
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Hi Steady, I must confess I do usually read "everything" the OP writes about their posting, to understand why they posted, and skim thru the comments, after I have "felt" the picture, and feel that I have something to say If it was said already, I refrain from further comments.. And I did skim thru your text, and comments to ensure I did not comment on something that was already said, or explisit explained. But I did not read the text, I skimmed thru it, and as such I did not understand your intent fully (hence my apology).

As for the "white line", I do understand the function of the top support. However as the BG is dark, the eye naturally follows the lines of the piano, to the player. As this specular HL is brigther than the player, I feel that it competes with her, and as such I believe the white line just "clutters" the clean lines of the image. As she is centered, the line does not bring any balance to the pic. IMHO But I am not going to argue, I accept your intent with the comp, and I like how her posture brings harmony to the angle of the support, (arm, neck and head angle).

I do appreciate what you bring to the forum and your insightfull comments. There are too many "two word" comments in this forum

Take care and Gods light to you



Nov 22, 2008 at 03:13 PM
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onebear wrote:
Hi Steady, I must confess I do usually read "everything" the OP writes about their posting, to understand why they posted, and skim thru the comments, after I have "felt" the picture, and feel that I have something to say If it was said already, I refrain from further comments.. And I did skim thru your text, and comments to ensure I did not comment on something that was already said, or explisit explained. But I did not read the text, I skimmed thru it, and as such I did not understand your intent fully (hence my apology).

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Hi,

Thanks for the nice note.

I understand. And...I also thought the similar thoughts about the "white line" when first viewing the image. Later, I began to like it. So it may simply be a matter of it "growing on me."

Given your added comments, I will take a look at the image "anew" with your impressions/thoughts/observations in mind. So...thanks.

I have another image I will post later today of a different pianist (and a different piano). It has the same "prop" for the top, less light reflected (due to angle and ambient light) so it does look "darker" and less apparent (though still visible).

Good light to you too.




Nov 22, 2008 at 03:25 PM
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I would like to, or could not be opened.

I tell you one way, you give it a try.

Please prepare to put up the picture in this forum to open and use the right mouse button to view its properties, you will see this picture of the URL address, copy it, and then will be able to directly enter here
Medium-sized brackets+img+Medium-sized brackets+URL address
So you can see a direct picture Do you understand ?



Nov 22, 2008 at 09:23 PM
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I reallly like the image but a couple things are a little bothersome. The hot spot on here forehead is a bit distacting and the bright piano support really took attention away from the girl.
Her eyes closed is a wonderful touch. It gives me a sense that she is feeling the music through the keyboard. I can hear the piano as I look at the image.
All around nicely done.



Nov 23, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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Hi Steadman!

Well I like the image overall.

What I see is this....

Firstly the hotspots... it makes an impression of "harsh" and not smooth.

Same thing with the lighting... the shadows create a "cut" look that deviate from the title of the image.

The lighting also brings out the muscles in her neck which show "tension" to me... again an antithesis to "smooth".... as well has her facial expression... I see "intensity" and not relaxation which equates to "smooth" for me.

Hope this helps!

Albert




Nov 23, 2008 at 02:56 PM
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Klaus Priebe wrote:
I reallly like the image but a couple things are a little bothersome. The hot spot on here forehead is a bit distacting and the bright piano support really took attention away from the girl.
Her eyes closed is a wonderful touch. It gives me a sense that she is feeling the music through the keyboard. I can hear the piano as I look at the image.
All around nicely done.



Greetings Klaus.

Thanks for adding your impression too.

I liked your wording in the impression of hearing the piano as you look at the image.

And...of course your technical comment is noted too (and I agree with your observation)...but...I don't necessarily agree with the end result ()...as mentioned above in another response to the issue of specular highlights.

Lastly...I did a quick view of your images posted via your link to photo.net. You have a very "creative" eye and I enjoyed many of the images in my quick look. The clouds, the celestial objects, the Southwest series images,...they were all very nice and outstanding images. "Admirable" was the first word that came to mind when I opened that gallery. It was the first time I have seen your photos and I was impressed. Envious even...of the opportunity to see those places and things as you have. Lucky you...and talented you too.

IF anyone else is reading this comment, you should go see Klaus's work. Very nice photography and "artistic" composites too.

Good light to you for your terrestrial subjects. And...because you like the night sky (stars)..."Good Darkness to you too!"



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