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foxfire235
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p.1 #1 · my 85mm has CA


Just got a brand new 85mm 1.2 II and i'm a bit concerned about the softness and CA at 1.2. I mean, the lens isn't soft, but it seems softer than my 135mm f/2 L @ f/2.

I've attached 100% crop samples. Maybe I should send it back?

http://users.xplornet.com/~steveambruzs/ebay/85mm.jpg

http://users.xplornet.com/~steveambruzs/ebay/85mm2.jpg




Nov 20, 2008 at 08:21 PM
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p.1 #2 · my 85mm has CA


"Extreme" lenses have weaknesses too.
The 85L colour fringes a fair bit from wide open to about f/2.2.

Wide open not quite as sharp as 135L wide open ? That's possible.



Nov 20, 2008 at 08:32 PM
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p.1 #3 · my 85mm has CA


Standard issue with that lens, now enjoy everything that's good about it!


Nov 20, 2008 at 08:34 PM
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p.1 #4 · my 85mm has CA


mine fringes a bit when pushed...

whats the exif on those shots?



Nov 20, 2008 at 08:34 PM
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p.1 #5 · my 85mm has CA


how do you add the exif? They are linked to my ftp site. Is it possible?



Nov 20, 2008 at 08:43 PM
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p.1 #6 · my 85mm has CA


How about life size images @ wide opened... are those soft, too? That is, unless your 85L will spend most of is time on size 10 fonts.


Nov 20, 2008 at 10:25 PM
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p.1 #7 · my 85mm has CA


lots of canon lenses get that green/purple longitidunal CA on OOF areas, especially some of the fast ones wide open. You'll notice that it will be one color for areas in front of the DOF and another color for parts behind the DOF, it shows up on objects a certain distance in front or behind your subect (that are OOF) because it is not focusing the compelte spectrum at the same in-out distance.

the 135L is totally amazing, fantastic contrast, astounding color, extremely sharp, very low levels of 'standard' lateral CA, BUT sometimes fairly bad green/purple longitudinal CA and when it is bright it can pick up a fair amount of PF on highlights.

the 300 f/4 non-IS has quite a bit of it (green/purple longitudinal).

it does vary by lens as the 70-200 2.8 IS definitely has a lot more of this type than the 70-200 2.8 non-IS which has almost none.

the thing that is so amazing about the 300 2.8 IS is that is almost 100% totally lacks any form of color abberation, even wide open, virtually no lateral CA either first or second order, essentially no longitudinal CA and crazy-resistant to PF even under the most savage of conditions, perhaps a few lenses can end up matching the color/contrast even sharpness, amybe a handful can even beat it a trace, but I have yet to see any that are also as free of any sort of defects such as those.




Nov 20, 2008 at 10:48 PM
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p.1 #8 · my 85mm has CA


Looks like you're doing the standard "close focus wide open test".

Try bringing the lens into the "real world" I mean no disrespect by that. The 85L is a really picky little beast, you need to practice with it and learn it's uses. It's actually pretty sharp wide open all things considered, though the CA is a bit heavy and you'll perhaps need a contrast/saturation boost, it's still a very sharp lens IMHO.

Learn what it excels at. Close-focus text tests...aren't really it's strengths. Once I got more than a few true keepers, I realized my previous "hesitation" about the lens was actually...uh..."user error".

Enjoy it, it's great piece of glass.



Nov 21, 2008 at 12:42 AM
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p.1 #9 · my 85mm has CA


I see nothing unusual about the samples you have provided. I was a bit suspicious about mine when I got it. It takes a while to get used to this lens. No I wont be without it, I just try to avoid high contrast situations @1.2.


Nov 21, 2008 at 02:32 AM
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p.1 #10 · my 85mm has CA


Looks to me as you have a great copy, it is what it is.

don't want the CA shoot at smaller aps or shoot film..

;-)

Enjoy your 85, it is a gem

Tom



Nov 21, 2008 at 03:03 AM
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p.1 #11 · my 85mm has CA


Like all other very fast lenses, the 85L has CA. But it's very easy to correct in PP


Nov 21, 2008 at 04:52 AM
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p.1 #12 · my 85mm has CA


Lars Johnsson wrote:
Like all other very fast lenses, the 85L has CA. But it's very easy to correct in PP


I would like to know how......



Nov 21, 2008 at 05:02 AM
Lars Johnsson
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p.1 #13 · my 85mm has CA


morganb4 wrote:
I would like to know how......


There are a lot of actions for PS that will fix CA. A few are also free for download. Look at any website that has free actions/plugins for PS. And Photoshop camera raw has corrections for the CA & fringing



Nov 21, 2008 at 05:26 AM
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p.1 #14 · my 85mm has CA


Lars Johnsson wrote:
There are a lot of actions for PS that will fix CA. A few are also free for download. Look at any website that has free actions/plugins for PS. And Photoshop camera raw has corrections for the CA & fringing


Lars, I have not tried any that are particularly satisfactory, especially when dealing with longitudinal CA. I thought maybe you had some magic trick up your sleeve....



Nov 21, 2008 at 05:39 AM
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p.1 #15 · my 85mm has CA


All 85 1.2 L's have CA wide open. It improves greatly when stopped down.

Here's one from a pub I drink in. The conditions were perfect for CA to rear it's head mind, but it's very obvious around the highlight areas of the spectacle frames.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/2975553440_bbcbb1aeaa_b.jpg



Nov 21, 2008 at 05:44 AM
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p.1 #16 · my 85mm has CA


Thanks for the help guys. I guess I'll have to put the lens to some real use before jumping to conclusions.


Nov 21, 2008 at 07:20 AM
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p.1 #17 · my 85mm has CA


The 85L can have some massive fringing depending on the conditions. It isn't discussed too, much since the merits seem to far outweigh it. Funny when you think about it. The 85L can have wicked fringing wide open, slow AF, a protruding rear element and bizarre MF ring. Yet, it is still the last lens I'd give up for any reason.

OH and f/1.2 can ruin a plane of focus if the gravitation pull of the moon suddenly changes.

Still worth it.



Nov 21, 2008 at 08:38 AM
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p.1 #18 · my 85mm has CA


It'll be interesting for me to compare these results with my FD 85/1.2 SSC Aspherical once I finish the conversion.


Nov 21, 2008 at 10:33 AM
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p.1 #19 · my 85mm has CA


Cogitech, I think there'd be others who would love to hear or see those results too.

I can't wait to have a FF with better high ISO and see just what I can get with the 85L



Nov 22, 2008 at 09:26 PM
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p.1 #20 · my 85mm has CA


Awesome lens despite its limitations. Can do shots with this lens that nothing else can do. The backgrounds just melt into a sea of colour *drool*


Nov 22, 2008 at 11:26 PM





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