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Abdullah M
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p.1 #1 · Best kit with 50D?


Hi all ...

Canon 50D arraived here in KSA, I would like to buy one with kit lens.
So, if we ignore the zoom range, what is best lens in optical quality:

- EF-S 17-85mm IS
- EF 28-135 IS
- Or new 18-200 IS

I have 17-40L and 70-200L f4 , so my expectations are high...

Or just buy the body only?

thank you ...



Oct 30, 2008 at 10:59 AM
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p.1 #2 · Best kit with 50D?


None of the lenses you suggested are excellent in optical quality comparing with the L lenses you have, you might want to look at the EF-S 17-55/2.8 or just get a prime lens like 50mm/1.4 to use in the low light situation.



Oct 30, 2008 at 11:09 AM
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p.1 #3 · Best kit with 50D?


my 28-135 has always given my 24-105 a good run for its money. that said i have read that the 17-85 is slightly superior to teh 28-135


Oct 30, 2008 at 11:10 AM
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p.1 #4 · Best kit with 50D?


steer clear of the 2 efs in your list. Photozone have just updated their reviews on a 50d
http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/overview

the 28-135 is not a bad lens but you may be wanting more considering what you have now.
Why not just get the body and a tamron 28-75 2.8 or trade your 17-40 and go for the 17-55 is



Oct 30, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Abdullah M
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p.1 #5 · Best kit with 50D?


thank you for replies ..

So, no strong recommendations on the lenses ..
I had bad experience with Tamron (28-300) so, no back to tamron ..
I have 50mm 1.8 ..

If any one have 17-55 2.8 IS and L lens (like 17-40) , to give an opinion about image quality between these two lenses, and how IS effective in short zoom range (17-55) ..




Oct 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM
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p.1 #6 · Best kit with 50D?


the tamrons like the 28-75 and the 17-50 (both 2.8) are sooooo much better than the superzooms, lots of lovers of those 2 lenses on here.
you could also look at the new sigma 24-70 comming soon which is supposed to be alot more compact than the current one or the 24-70L (another great lens)



Oct 30, 2008 at 12:36 PM
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p.1 #7 · Best kit with 50D?


This is an easy question, there are two standard zooms which stand out

Canon 17-55 IS (good but expensive)
Tamron 17-50 (good, cheap, no IS)

Personally I wouldn't buy any of the ones on the OP's list

However, as you have the 17-40L you could just buy a 50mm, you're covered with just that

David

Edited on Oct 30, 2008 at 12:45 PM · View previous versions



Oct 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM
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p.1 #8 · Best kit with 50D?


My fav for travel is the 17-55 2.8. It's optically better than my 17-40 L albeit more bulky & heavy. For walkaround, I often use an EF 30 2.0: sharp, fast 'n petite.


My 17-55 2.8 Review



Oct 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM
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p.1 #9 · Best kit with 50D?


Get a nice little prime maybe the 85 f1.8 or the 100 f2.0 to go with the 50 you have. You've got nice glass, and like the others have said, the kit glass is marginal at best.


Oct 30, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Abdullah M
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p.1 #10 · Best kit with 50D?


I read that Tamron and Sigma have good lenses in this zoom range with good prices, but "Canon Lens for Canon Camera ) (like Toyota oil for Toyota cars )

I already have 50mm 1.8 but L zooms beat cheap primes easly (in my opinion).

I seriously consider 17-55 for 2.8 and IS and some praise to IQ.

I'm not interested in long primes, even my 50mm seems to me long on my 350D.


thank you all, appreciate your responses...



Oct 30, 2008 at 03:03 PM
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p.1 #11 · Best kit with 50D?


Abdullah M wrote:
I read that Tamron and Sigma have good lenses in this zoom range with good prices, but "Canon Lens for Canon Camera ) (like Toyota oil for Toyota cars )

I already have 50mm 1.8 but L zooms beat cheap primes easly (in my opinion).

I seriously consider 17-55 for 2.8 and IS and some praise to IQ.

I'm not interested in long primes, even my 50mm seems to me long on my 350D.

thank you all, appreciate your responses...


If your 50 seems long on a crop then why not sell the 17-40 and get the 17-55 and then add 1 of the ultra wides. 10-22 of Tokina 11-16 2.8



Oct 30, 2008 at 05:34 PM
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p.1 #12 · Best kit with 50D?


Did you know that the 50D needs good resolving lenses in order to get the most out of the sensor?

If you are going to use lenses like the 17-85, 18-200 or 28-135 you are better off with a 40D. It is cheaper and will probably give the same detail as a 50D...



Oct 31, 2008 at 06:37 AM
Abdullah M
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p.1 #13 · Best kit with 50D?


For wide angles, I have Sigma 10-20mm.
sell 17-40L for 17-55 2.8..? I'm not sure about image quality of 17-55
since 17-40 (27-65 on 350D) has great IQ.

I read about lenses data stored in 50D, but I don't inderstand how this can help?
I changed my opinion about 17-85, 18-200 , 28-135, I will do more search about 17-55 2.8 , and I may end with buying body only.

thanks ..



Oct 31, 2008 at 09:20 AM
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p.1 #14 · Best kit with 50D?


OP,

Suggest you buy the body only, for sure. Keep your lens options open.

For an excellent "walk-around" lens, I suggest the 24-70 L. The f2.8 gives excellent low light speed and the range on a 1.6 crop is very suitable. For a wider lens, the Canon 10-22 is a nice and cheaper lens to add to the collection after the 24-70.

hth



Oct 31, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Abdullah M
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p.1 #15 · Best kit with 50D?


Your suggested lenses "Rodney O" are so expensive.
the total price of these lenses can bring the giant 70-200 2.8 IS + flash 580II

thanks



Oct 31, 2008 at 01:33 PM
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p.1 #16 · Best kit with 50D?


add a 24-70L and now you'll have your 3 'core' lenses

something wide... 10-22 is your best bet for a 50D. you 17-40L is ok but not really wide...

something medium... 24-70L is best, 24-105L is also good

something telephoto... 70-200 f/4L is okay... there are better ones but depends on how much shooting you do

get good 'core' lenses since those are the ones you'll use the most; then worry about other stuff later...



Oct 31, 2008 at 03:40 PM
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p.1 #17 · Best kit with 50D?


Why not consider something on the long end? Keep your 17-40 and add a Sigma 50-150, Tamron 50-135 or a 70-200 of your choice. If you don't like your 17-40 on your new body you can always replace it with a Canon 17-55 or Tamron 17-50.


Oct 31, 2008 at 03:49 PM
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p.1 #18 · Best kit with 50D?


Skip the kit, your current lenses are better anyway.

You say 50mm feels long to you, so why are you looking for another lens? Do you want faster than f4, or longer than 40?

If you want to close the gap between the 40 and 70mm ranges, the 24-70L is a great choice. If you want something faster, the 17-55IS is excellent (as is the Tamron 17-50).

So what's your motivation?



Oct 31, 2008 at 03:58 PM
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p.1 #19 · Best kit with 50D?


With the lenses you have, those kit lenses are going to be crap.

After selling my 17-85 to buy the 24-70, I wish I would have kept it, because I would have used the 17-85 as a travel zoom.

The 24-70 is an amazing lens, and worth every penny.



Oct 31, 2008 at 05:32 PM
Abdullah M
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p.1 #20 · Best kit with 50D?


thank you all ..

I prefer 17-55 for IS and price more than 24-70L.

The lack of IS and fast apeture of my 17-40 and 70-200 f4,
push me to think about IS and fast Canon zoom lens..
the available choice is EF-S 17-55mm f2.8 IS USM.

the question is : sell 17-40L for 17-55 or not?
I'm not sure about quality of images of 17-55 ..



Nov 01, 2008 at 06:16 AM
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