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p.1 #1 · D90 - overexposure problems


I'm getting quite a few overexposed pictures with my new D90. Settings are standard, Dlight is off, matrix metering, AP mode, central point focusing. Exposure is at times 2/3 of a stop too high. I don't think I'm doing anything wrong, and besides I checked it carefully many times. Since I'm new to Nikon, I wonder if this is a well known problem.

I posted a photo on http://www.telefonica.net/web2/enir/

It's the only one I didn't delete. RAW, converted with ViewNX (ACR and NX2 didn't improve it), focused on the house just in the center of the picture. I see this landscape from the window of my computer room and use it as test when I get a new camera. This particular photo is not as bad as others I took with the D90, maybe overexposed by half a stop. I never found this problem before with Contax, Canon, etc. Maybe I got a lemon?

The camera is great otherwise. Only that now and then I get overexposures unpredictably. Trying with center weighted instead of matrix didn't solve the problem.

By the way, so far I prefer not to switch D-Lighting on. I figure that I can always reduce contrast in PP. Am I wrong? Anyway, strange that Nikon modifies RAW.

Thanks for your help,
Enrique



Oct 10, 2008 at 09:50 AM
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p.1 #2 · D90 - overexposure problems


It doesn't really look overexposed to me, sure the white walls on all the houses at the front are burned but the rest of the frame looks ok, the sky, hill and grass/earth looks ok. What adjustments does View apply to it?

If you're not happy send it for calibration but I wouldn't call it problematic. What does the histogram say?



Oct 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM
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p.1 #3 · D90 - overexposure problems


panos.v wrote:
It doesn't really look overexposed to me, sure the white walls on all the houses at the front are burned but the rest of the frame looks ok, the sky, hill and grass/earth looks ok. What adjustments does View apply to it?

If you're not happy send it for calibration but I wouldn't call it problematic. What does the histogram say?


Histogram shows clipping. The whole picture was well overexposed. I can see the landscape and the photo at the same time.

As far as I know, I cannot adjust anything in ViewNX, except for saving Tiff or JPG. Converting with ACR 4.6 in auto didn't improve things. It's a recurrent problem.

Enrique



Oct 10, 2008 at 10:21 AM
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p.1 #4 · D90 - overexposure problems


how was the WB set?



Oct 10, 2008 at 10:32 AM
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p.1 #5 · D90 - overexposure problems


linathael wrote:
how was the WB set?


Automatic white balance.




Oct 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM
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p.1 #6 · D90 - overexposure problems


do you have the EV compensation turned on? are you in a bracketing mode ?

J



Oct 10, 2008 at 10:58 AM
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p.1 #7 · D90 - overexposure problems


Enrique,

I have the same problem with my D80. According to Ken Rockwell, the D80 meter system is "defective" and has been corrected in the D300 and D90. He also says leave the ADR on auto which you had off. I leave the exposure set to -0.7 all the time which helps a lot. Check out kenrockwell.com for more extensive info.

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Oct 10, 2008 at 11:05 AM
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p.1 #8 · D90 - overexposure problems


jmcfadden wrote:
do you have the EV compensation turned on? are you in a bracketing mode ?

J


No. Neither.

Enrique




Oct 10, 2008 at 11:07 AM
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p.1 #9 · D90 - overexposure problems


the image is about 1/2 stop overexposed. its like the d300. it hates overexposure. and the meter is very sensitive. i have a fuji s3 and that will nail the exposure every time, but the nikon doesn't. i have also used the fuji s5 and that is very similar to the nikon. very sensitive.


Oct 10, 2008 at 11:10 AM
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tanagerridge wrote:
Enrique,

I have the same problem with my D80. According to Ken Rockwell, the D80 meter system is "defective" and has been corrected in the D300 and D90. He also says leave the ADR on auto which you had off. I leave the exposure set to -0.7 all the time which helps a lot. Check out kenrockwell.com for more extensive info.


I will check, thank you. I'm a bit reluctant to switch D-Lighting on. I think I prefer to play with levels than letting the camera do it for me. I don't trust these automatic processes much.

Enrique



Oct 10, 2008 at 11:13 AM
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p.1 #11 · D90 - overexposure problems


pr4photos wrote:
the image is about 1/2 stop overexposed. its like the d300. it hates overexposure. and the meter is very sensitive. i have a fuji s3 and that will nail the exposure every time, but the nikon doesn't. i have also used the fuji s5 and that is very similar to the nikon. very sensitive.


Then it would be a rather fussy problem to deal with. Scenes in the shade are well exposed, only the bright highlights are a problem. I mean that a permanent exposure compensation won't do. And don't like the idea of D-lighting so much. Hmmm...

Enrique



Oct 10, 2008 at 11:19 AM
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tanagerridge wrote:
Enrique,

I have the same problem with my D80. According to Ken Rockwell, the D80 meter system is "defective" and has been corrected in the D300 and D90. He also says leave the ADR on auto which you had off. I leave the exposure set to -0.7 all the time which helps a lot. Check out kenrockwell.com for more extensive info.



hahahahahaha

:rofl:

good old ken.....




Oct 10, 2008 at 11:21 AM
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p.1 #13 · D90 - overexposure problems


user error, midday is a crap time for taking photos


Oct 10, 2008 at 11:43 AM
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louis fusco wrote:
user error, midday is a crap time for taking photos


Ehem. 10:30 am being 8:30 solar time is hardly midday. Otherwise I agree with you.

Enrique




Oct 10, 2008 at 11:50 AM
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p.1 #15 · D90 - overexposure problems


Enir wrote:
As far as I know, I cannot adjust anything in ViewNX, except for saving Tiff or JPG.
Enrique


There are several adjustments you can make if you are using the latest version of ViewNX. Click on the quick adjust tab on the bottom left hand side of your screen to open the quick adjust menu.



Oct 10, 2008 at 12:09 PM
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p.1 #16 · D90 - overexposure problems


1st, do yourself a favor and never ever go to KR's site. He is an idiot.

2nd, check your D-lighting setting. D-lighting can do this.

3rd, Those mountains are dark and will cause the meter to read low. Meter off the sky and fix exposure based on that.

4th, if you want to reduce your exposure issuse, learn to manual expose everything. Understand Exposure by Bryan Peterson is a great place to start.



Oct 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM
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p.1 #17 · D90 - overexposure problems


I took the pic into the ACR and it was nearly at -1.6EV, but still some parts of the houses were washed out, but didn't come back either with a higher EV. Maybe with the original Raw file there is something special.


Oct 10, 2008 at 12:51 PM
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Andre Labonte wrote:
1st, do yourself a favor and never ever go to KR's site. He is an idiot.

2nd, check your D-lighting setting. D-lighting can do this.

3rd, Those mountains are dark and will cause the meter to read low. Meter off the sky and fix exposure based on that.

4th, if you want to reduce your exposure issuse, learn to manual expose everything. Understand Exposure by Bryan Peterson is a great place to start.



I agree with you on the most part except the use manual exposure all the time part.

Learning about exposure will help a ton, but there is no reason not to use ap. You have to learn your camera as well. It seems all to often these my camera meters wrong posts come up, but in actuality there is no wrong metering , only interpreting what you feel as "correct". With the age of digital cameras and technology metering accuracy is getting better and better but no two cameras meter the same. It's just the way it is.

Exposure compensation is on all camera's for a reason, it needs to be there.

Start out by learning how your camera meters in a certain lighting situation, I suggest starting off in bright light because thats the easiest and the one you seem to be having a problem with.

Learn the "Sunny 16 rule" for proper exposure in direct light and see where your meter is.

Go to ap setting with d-lighting off

Set your aperture to 16 and iso 100 or , since your native is 200 on that cam do 200.

At f/16 200 iso meter off of green grass or grey/light brown tree bark. Your meter should tell you 1/200 is the exposure length it chooses. If not use exposure compenstaion to make it that way.

Ie, it gives a reeding of 1/100 you know that is a full stop overexposed so set the compensation to -1 and shoot .

Now compare the compensated exposure to the original, and expose to taste.

After a while it will be second nature to adjust your exposure to the way your camera acts and the way you like your pics to come out.

I know my D80 overexposes +7 in harsh bright light on bright objects and under -3 in shadows on dark objects. Shooting manual which i normally do i know depending on what i am pointing at if i should be above or below the metering mark.

But for action, bif and other rapidly moving /changing conditions i use ap and set my ex. comp, and can change it on the fly whit the thumb wheel a lot faster than chasing the manual meter in and out of shadows.

On Kens site there is a ton of information, some of it good some of it bad take it all with a grain of salt and use what works for you from there.

I might suggest buying a photography book and going from there.

I find John Shaw's books to be excellent.



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Oct 10, 2008 at 12:51 PM
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p.1 #19 · D90 - overexposure problems


James R wrote:
+1, except I no longer will comment on KR.

BTW, it took 20 secs to correct this photo in LR2.


It shows. Nothing to do with the real thing. Thanks for trying, though.

Enrique




Oct 10, 2008 at 12:58 PM
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90 5.0 wrote:
I agree with you on the most part except the use manual exposure all the time part.

Learning about exposure will help a ton, but there is no reason not to use ap. You have to learn your camera as well. It seems all to often these my camera meters wrong posts come up, but in actuality there is no wrong metering , only interpreting what you feel as "correct". With the age of digital cameras and technology metering accuracy is getting better and better but no two cameras meter the same. It's just the way it is.

Exposure compensation is
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Thanks for your tips. I would also like to make clear that I have been in photography for some 40 years, so I roughly know what I'm doing, including the f/16 1/ASA rule. But I had my D90 for just a few days and admit I don't know it well yet. It is also my first Nikon reflex.

Kind regards,
Enrique



Oct 10, 2008 at 01:01 PM
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