p.3 #1 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE
3 yr old macbookpro, 1gb ram
plays MINT on here or tethered to my plasma.
Also converted in visualhub for my ps3, took couple minutes, gorgeous file on ps3 as well.
p.3 #4 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE
Mike V wrote:
Maybe you are just used to seeing images from really bad video cameras?
No... I'm used to seeing how poorly dedicated video cameras handle low light shooting, and how much better the 5D II is.
Check out Laforet's "Behind the Scenes" video. Most of the footage was shot with a Canon XH A1 3CCD camcorder (a $3500 video camera in its least expensive configuration, and supposedly one of the better cameras for low light shooting). But interspersed with the XH A1 footage are some of the clips taken in the same light by the 5D II. The difference in quality between them is pretty astonishing, and embarrassing to the video camera, given the fact that video clips are really just an add-on feature for the 5D II. Of course, the XH A1 does a lot of things better than the 5D II. (It was designed specifically for shooting video, after all.) But for low light captures, the 5D II is clearly superior. Here's a link:
More to the point: If you know of a video camera that can handle low light better than the 5D Mk II demonstrates in these clips, name it. There's been an awful lot of discussion on this topic over the past week, and nobody seems to be able to point to something better for night shooting or very low light. Even the $20,000 RED camera comes up short -- and until the intro of the 5D II, it was considered one of the best.
p.3 #8 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE
moondigger wrote:
No... I'm used to seeing how poorly dedicated video cameras handle low light shooting, and how much better the 5D II is.
Check out Laforet's "Behind the Scenes" video. Most of the footage was shot with a Canon XH A1 3CCD camcorder (a $3500 video camera in its least expensive configuration, and supposedly one of the better cameras for low light shooting). But interspersed with the XH A1 footage are some of the clips taken in the same light by the 5D II. The difference in quality between them is pretty astonishing, and embarrassing to the video camera, given the fact that video clips are really just an add-on feature for the 5D II. Of course, the XH A1 does a lot of things better than the 5D II. (It was designed specifically for shooting video, after all.) But for low light captures, the 5D II is clearly superior. Here's a link:
More to the point: If you know of a video camera that can handle low light better than the 5D Mk II demonstrates in these clips, name it. There's been an awful lot of discussion on this topic over the past week, and nobody seems to be able to point to something better for night shooting or very low light. Even the $20,000 RED camera comes up short -- and until the intro of the 5D II, it was considered one of the best....Show more →
I made the same point about how bad the XH A1 looks compared to the 5DII on a video forum last week and no one responded. Not just in noise but in the richness of the image. I don't know if I would say the 5DII looks like film, but the XH A1 sure looks like "video" in low light. The richness and quality of the 5DII in low light will open up a lot of creativity in lower budget ventures.
I'm very interested in Canon's next step. It seems to me they will introduce a mid price point video camera with a single large CMOS next. It's a rather weird situation that the best low light video is from a DSLR. The DSLR form factor is not going to be acceptable to most video shooters.
p.3 #9 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE
Mike V wrote:
No problem playing the clips on a PC.
How much RAM have you guys got that are having problems?
The first clip is OK, nothing to write home about.
The second clip, the low light one, looks terrible.
The third clip in decent light looks pretty damn good.
Huge number of dead pixels.
Looks terrible compared to what? There's plenty of recent feature films that the low light work doesn't look that good. So I'm wondering about the comparative reference.
Sep 30, 2008 at 12:11 PM
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p.3 #10 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE
p.3 #12 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE
moondigger wrote:
Actually, there probably isn't anything wrong with Beni's config. See below.
There's no way in heck a Dual 1.25 G4 could handle those full-res clips without serious stuttering/frame drops. So the H.264 decoding must be offloaded to the ATI 9600 on that box.
It will have problems with these clips, if the video card doesn't do H.264. A 2.2 GHz CoreDuo doesn't have quite enough power to decode these clips at the full 30 fps.
Speak for yourself, duo 2.2 with 2gigs ram, standard white first gen macbook, and I get quicktime pro and vlc playback smooth, 29 fps constant. All three clips run great.
p.3 #13 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE
My 2.66ghz iMac with 2gb ram and ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO runs the videos just fine. I am currently running Safari, Adium, iTunes, and VMWare Fusion. No problems at all.
Edit: Oops, I was running it in Quicktime. Not exactly sure, but it looks better in Quicktime than in VLC (but I'm not expert when it comes to video playback!).
p.3 #15 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE
patrickphoto wrote:
Speak for yourself, duo 2.2 with 2gigs ram, standard white first gen macbook, and I get quicktime pro and vlc playback smooth, 29 fps constant. All three clips run great.
You have a Core 2 Duo. The person I was responding to had an original Core Duo (not a "2"). I stand by my statement -- a 2.2 GHz Core Duo doesn't have quite enough power to decode full 1080p clips like these at the full 30 fps.
p.3 #17 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE
The Apple Quicktime decoder for Windows isn't very efficient (one might even say poorly designed) which is why it takes a PC powerhouse to play these videos properly. If you try to play any of the 1080p 5DII videos on an older PC, especially one without any kind of hardware acceleration for h.264, you will definitely get bad stuttering. My PC does this and there seems to be some kind of glitch relating to gamma as well (everything looks washed out). When I play the videos through CoreAVC, everything is silky smooth and the gamma is correct. I'm going to try VLC next when I find some free time.
p.3 #19 · EOS 5D Mark II: full-resolution, uncompressed clips from REVERIE
My system is 4 years old 3Ghz CPU, 1.5 GIG of memory and a 256MB video card and the video is choppy. Lightroom 2 is choppy..etc..etc..etc..
I'm going to buy a 5D Mark II, but I'm already tired of my old system so together with buying the 5D Mark II. I'll be buying a quad core, 4GB of RAM and 512 Nvidia video card with HDMI output. I already need a CPU so might as well buy it along with the Mark II cause I'm going to need it for the HD video.
