Based on my 1DIII experience I will let the hard users(pros & otherwise) prove it's durability to me before I go for any more Canon new technology or products. I have the 5D since it came out and it is great so I'll not sell it even if I do get the 5DII (and you know I probably will OL).
OwlsEyes wrote:
I would like to, but a 21 mp image would require me to upgrade my G5 Dual to the newer Intel PowerMac... this means another $2200 in addition to the cost of the camera.
I'll wait to see what the image advantage is... this will be a good chance to rent a camera and see if it worth the difference.
cheers,
bruce
Not as impressed with mk II specs, no needs in video/live view toys as well. Currently could stay with 12.8mpx resolution and 2 y.old 5D and dust inside
Wish to see real shots and no issues reports from people on FM
Probably not.
In fact, I haven't even bothered with the 5D MkI ......for reasons of its inert feel, poor peripheral AF point precision and excessive price for what the camera really is (was).
In terms of the overall design concept, the 5D MkII seems to follow the MkI rigidly. If Canon kept the 5D II at no more than 16 Mp, increased FPS to 5-6 and supplied it with an enhanced 40/50D AF system, the result would have been a much more agile camera with a broader appeal accross different photographic disciplines. Then, I might have given it a shot.
+2, except the autofocus. I find the current 5D's A/F fine for my type of shooting (street, landscape, etc) I do with the 5D. When I shoot sport or BIF I use a 1DMK2. Mostly for the fps. The AF is better than the 5D, but not that much better and is worse when the light levels drop.
monochrome wrote:
You never owned one, but you can say it had poor AF point precision.
I don't know about your speed of camera assessment, Monochrome, however, a day with 5D MkI was much more than I needed to determine its AF one-shot performance on static targets. In fact, it takes no more than a few dozen shots.
Now, Servo AF performance is a different matter, definitely harder to evaluate....right, I am sure it's scintillating ....however, that's not what I am talking about.
Again, I wrote "peripheral AF points precision", not centre AF point precision.
Beni wrote:
The poll was specifically directed at owners of the current 5D, I wanted to see if the megapixels were enough to make people upgrade given that the rest of the camera save a few tweaks is exactly the same as the old one.
Ummmm, I guess. I'm more interested in ISO 6400+, cleaner high ISO files, and the weather sealing.
Until I can see IQ that is clearly better than my 5D, I will wear the camera out. You can talk about AF, sealing, better build, but it all boils down to the IQ. I shoot all landscape so AF isn't a deal buster for me. I've never needed weather seals. I wouldn't mind the 920k lcd, but that will happen eventually. And I don't really care about video at all!
PetKal wrote:
I don't know about your speed of camera assessment, Monochrome, however, a day with 5D MkI was much more than I needed to determine its AF one-shot performance on static targets. In fact, it takes no more than a few dozen shots.
Now, Servo AF performance is a different matter, definitely harder to evaluate....right, I am sure it's scintillating ....however, that's not what I am talking about.
Again, I wrote "peripheral AF points precision", not centre AF point precision.
And that's what I quoted, you said you never had one, if you can use it one day and now it sucks so be it. If you can take a few dozen shots and determine by looking at the camera LCD....wow.
Yup. I'm upgrading after 3 years--IF the high ISO performance is improved over the 5d's. That's what made me go for the 5D in the first place. Also, for my client work, having a good quality video capability for very short clips is icing on the cake. One less device to haul and upgrade. But if the IQ is equal or less I'll buy a second used 5D for a song and wait another generation!
Beni wrote:
I wanted to see if the megapixels were enough to make people upgrade given that the rest of the camera save a few tweaks is exactly the same as the old one.
Although I describe the mkII as an evolutionary upgrade, it isn't exactly just megapixels and a few tweaks. You may or may not have a use for the new features, but all the little changes make for quite a new camera (IMHO). The real question for me will be if these new features will add up to a significant improvement in my work (hobby). ISO performance is the big stick here, if the AF system is unchanged. But I see LF and the ability to shoot short HD movies as sufficiently interesting as well (amongst others).
It will boil down to price and other Canon developments.
The more I think about it though, the harder the 6 month wait I've imposed on myself will be!
Update, I've just checked my main retailer and the release price will be € 2350,-
Assuming that it has the normal Canon new release premium (see 50D at first pre-release € 1350,- now € 1175,- compared to a € 745,- 40D and € 1499,- 5D) I think chances are pretty good that it will drop to under € 2k within 6 months, especially with cash back.
Under 2k I will start to sweat
Pricing might also hint at another intermediary body though, like a "3D" with more 1Dxxx features (especially AF).
If the high ISO is good and the IQ better than the original 5D I think Canon will score a big hit with this one.
(let me check my funds again...no never again I pre-order Canon gear! No repeat 100 times my 5D still serves me as well as before the MkII )
I don't mind the autofocus, since I am more in portraits and landscape, but I care about pixels... Important when you crop stuffs.... The Iso, not bad, but will see if usable... At first, I was pissed off by the video..... But I have seen the samples taken with the 85mm at 1.2 and I must say it gave me some ideas...... Too bad it is not waterproof, but at least, they have made some corrections.... So for now, I am satisfy with the II.. Am I upgrading right away ? Don't know yet... Waiting for comments and samples taken by the users, since I am fully satisfy of the 5D... But now, I have a reason to upg my 5D when the time will come.......