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p.3 #1 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Crap, I was really hoping for a 35L II.


Sep 17, 2008 at 09:29 AM
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p.3 #2 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Can anyone tell me why they upgraded this lens?


Sep 17, 2008 at 09:29 AM
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p.3 #3 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Seems like they are revamping the entire line with MkII's. This was just next on their list is my guess.


Sep 17, 2008 at 09:41 AM
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p.3 #4 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Shuko wrote:

Well, Im no expert on MTF reading, but that doesnt show stopped down lines at all?

"keep in mind that the black lines show the lens wide open while the blue lines show the lens stopped down to f/8"

Red = "the higher up the chart the 10 LP/mm line is (the thick lines), the higher the contrast reproduction capability of the lens will be."

Blue = "the higher up the chart the 30 LP/mm line is (the thin lines), the higher the resolving power and thus subjective sharpness of the lens will be."


Old
http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/lens/ef_24_14mtf.gif


New
http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/Lenses_2008/EF24mm/profile/EF24_14LIIU_mtf.gif


So, comparing the red/blue to the black lines it seems
...Show more

You are correct.



Sep 17, 2008 at 10:15 AM
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p.3 #5 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


David Baldwin wrote:
Can anyone tell me why they upgraded this lens?


Because they are trying to make a business selling 15-21 megapixel cameras. Better have some lenses that can actually fill all those pixels with good detail.



Sep 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM
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p.3 #6 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


CVickery wrote:
The new one is bigger and heavier

Old 83.5 x 77.4 550g
New 93.5 x 86.9 650g

I'll probably stick with my old one...I don't see enough of an improvement to switch. This kind of reminds me of the 85/1.2 upgrade.


100g more, thats a step back, I want lighter not heavier.



Sep 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM
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p.3 #7 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


ick.


Thanks for the link.



Shuko wrote:
Assuming this will be better than the old 24, result of that comparison would be pretty clear.

http://tinyurl.com/24vs1635ii




Sep 17, 2008 at 10:58 AM
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p.3 #8 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


PetKal wrote:
Nancy, just temember, the 24L II will probably start retailing at $ 1,599.
A used MkI can be found for a 1/2 of that.


I doubt it, hotpants. Sounds more like MSRP than actual street price - and it'll drop after the "introductory period" further. It's not as much a niche lens as the 14L, so the economics will be a little different. Especially with FF becoming more and more mainstream (and the new 5D2).

But time (and reviews) will tell... The Zeiss 21mm Distagon still beckons.



Sep 17, 2008 at 11:13 AM
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p.3 #9 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Breitling65 wrote:
Any clue about price yet? I own current model and possibly will upgrade. Weathersealing is good new thing!!!


According to RG's site $1699 and due in December.
I guess I'll be getting a MkI. Dang it Canon quit screwwing us.



Sep 17, 2008 at 11:25 AM
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p.3 #10 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


I just bought a MkI this summer. I'll have to ignore any more about this for a few months, or that dreaded buyer remorse will get to me.


Sep 17, 2008 at 12:14 PM
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p.3 #11 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread



brainiac

"Better have some lenses that can actually fill all those pixels with good detail. "

Have to admit to finding MTF charts obscure. Do the MTF charts here suggest the new 24L will be significantly better?



Sep 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM
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p.3 #12 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


David Baldwin wrote:

brainiac

"Better have some lenses that can actually fill all those pixels with good detail. "

Have to admit to finding MTF charts obscure. Do the MTF charts here suggest the new 24L will be significantly better?


I doubt the mkII will be optically better (in a substantial way) than the mkI. Maybe a bit in the corners and regarding CA's. But I do believe that the 24L II will have updated AF algorythms and a chip that will make it able to calibrate the AF by using very precise software. And with all those MP's flying around these days, everything that has the potential to make the AF more tight is a necessity IMO.



Sep 17, 2008 at 12:28 PM
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p.3 #13 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


bobbytan wrote:
I do believe the 24/1.4L Mk II will be a little better than the older version BUT not nearly as good as the Zeiss Distagon 21/2.8 .....


Which for most 24L buyers is irrelevant since they're buying it for the 1.4 part.



Sep 17, 2008 at 01:00 PM
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p.3 #14 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


asparkes wrote:
I just bought a MkI this summer. I'll have to ignore any more about this for a few months, or that dreaded buyer remorse will get to me.


UUGH! I just ordered the Mk1 from B&H last week and it arrived 2 days ago. Now I am wondering if I might even try to return it and get the new one in December. For me $1170 is a lot of money to spend on a now outdated lens.

I did take a few snaps around the house with it and it does seem quite nice. I am loving the wide angle wide open.



Sep 17, 2008 at 01:00 PM
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p.3 #15 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Sean Mills wrote:
Seems like they are revamping the entire line with MkII's. This was just next on their list is my guess.


hopefully not the 400mm f2.8 IS or the 600mm f4 IS at least a couple more years haha Or I'll really be bummed



Sep 17, 2008 at 01:13 PM
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p.3 #16 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


yeah, I think the 800mm is safe too


Sep 17, 2008 at 01:15 PM
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p.3 #17 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


kinconorb wrote:
hopefully not the 400mm f2.8 IS or the 600mm f4 IS at least a couple more years haha Or I'll really be bummed


Don't worry, when Canon does replace both, they'll have the same type of stratospheric pricing as the 800 so the temptation would upgrade shouldn't be high (unless you have lots of $$$ to burn).



Sep 17, 2008 at 01:17 PM
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p.3 #18 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


sivrajbm wrote:
According to RG's site $1699 and due in December.
I guess I'll be getting a MkI. Dang it Canon quit screwwing us.


Galbraith is probably right......$1699 to start with.
Very very seldom we overestimate the introductory prices of new lenses.

However, IMO such pricing shouldn't be a problem for most folks.
If you really have a new need for 24L, the Mk I's priced relatively reasonably should abound on the used lens market soon.
If you already own one, so much the better.
However, if you feel that you need the MkII because it's the latest, well then, pay your money, have fun and let us know how you like it.



Sep 17, 2008 at 01:33 PM
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p.3 #19 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


I have no complaints with my mk I (it consistently produces amazing images) and probably wouldn't ever switch unless I needed the weather sealing.


Sep 17, 2008 at 02:11 PM
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p.3 #20 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread


Rolf_is_ROFL wrote:
UUGH! I just ordered the Mk1 from B&H last week and it arrived 2 days ago. Now I am wondering if I might even try to return it and get the new one in December. For me $1170 is a lot of money to spend on a now outdated lens.

I did take a few snaps around the house with it and it does seem quite nice. I am loving the wide angle wide open.


Unless the new features are a necessity for you, I'd stick with the MKI version. It's over $500 cheaper, and you have it now instead of waiting for December.



Sep 17, 2008 at 02:24 PM
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