edwardkaraa wrote:
As far as I understand, the prices are unverbindliche empfehlungspreise, or just recommended selling prices. The street prices imho should be very close to the ZF equivalents.
I was wondering about this as well. Of course, if the 21 was 1200 euros, it would change a few things to me..
Yes, UVP is the recommended price, the street prices are below that, by how much is another question, but probably around the ZF equivalents. It is however a good news, so if the lenses perform, that would eliminate all the hassle of adapters and servicing problems with AE lenses.
I checked with some online retailers, and found the new Zeiss at only one with a price of 10EUR below the recommended price - hope it comes a little bit down from that.
Goody.
This is excellent news.
The 21 looks very promising of course. It even looks roughly the same shape as the 21 C/Y Distagon.
Also the 85.... half a stop slower than the canon L, but half the weight, and with a proper manual focus feel (instant feedback) rather than having to delicately nudge an imprecise manual focus-by-wire . I could be really tempted for under 1000 Euro street price. Mimum focal distance of 1m isn't exactly super, but I always have tubes...
I'm not a fan of silver nose lenses, but still...I'm sure they come with nice hoods.
slungu wrote:
Auto aperture and EXIF are great, but given the fact that the new ZE would be 500EUR I think I will stick with my C/Y for a while. Same goes for the 85, the only interesting is the 21mm, but we will have to wait and see how it is doing against the C/Y version. But, let them come, I still have some C/Y lenses missing, so I hope prices on those will fall.
To get an answer to how the new 21 stacks up to the old one you will probably have to get one for yourself and try it. The owners of the old one will bash the new one in an attempt to keep the prices up... :-)
edwardkaraa wrote:
I fail to see any mention of the 21mm on Zeiss website.
Just a wild guess: maybe they are going to add it when they do actually release it. That would be in a few months.
Their website is not up to date. Regarding ZA bayonet, they do not know about the recently announced Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35 mm F2,8 ZA..
I own a Canon 50 1.4 and 85 1.8, and was reluctant to trade up to L lenses, for the 50 because it gets mixed reviews, for the 85 because of weight and cost. The Sigma 50 got mixed reviews too, so this was not a solution. It looks like I now have a way to have super 50 and 85 lenses. I shall talk to my Zeiss dealer ASAP for a hands-on test.
I can't believe people are thinking "aww...I won't be able to do stop down metering any more!" People, this is the one DRAWBACK of alternative glass. This is a GOOD thing. Give me wide open focus with auto aperture any day of the week.
Also, isn't the placement and size of the aperture ring the #1 complaint about ZF lenses? I mean, come on...moving the dial and seeing the aperture in the viewfinder without removing the camera from your eye is a heck of a lot nicer than counting aperture clicks. I like my MF lenses, but I'll take the modern electrical convenience if the image quality is going to be the same.
FYI Hasselblad/Zeiss MF lenses - have a stop-down 'button'. Set aperture where you'll ultimately want it, lens stays WO, focus, hit button, lens stops down, shoot, hit button, lens goes back to WO, rinse, repeat. Desired aperture can also be changed at any time.
edwardkaraa wrote:
With or without aperture ring doesn't make any difference here. With auto-aperture stop-down, the lens would behave in the same way anyways. I just prefer to change the aperture on the lens like in the good old days rather than turning the wheel.
The problem with the DOF preview button is that it only works on pushed. Once you release the pressure, the aperture opens wide. I'm not sure if there is any way to make the DOF preview button close by one push, and open by another push.
rfkiii wrote:
If it is true that there will be a $300 premium on ZEs over ZF versions, I will probably stick with ZFs for use on the D700.
According to prices on Zeiss' website, the ZE 50/1.5 is 30 euros more than the ZF version (579 vs. 549), and the ZE 85/1.4 is actually 50 euros LESS than the ZF version (999 vs. 1049). I think the prices have something to do with WHEN the prices for these lenses were set (costs and exchange rates, etc.). I suspect that we will probably see the prices between the versions equalized at some point soon.
Lotusm50 wrote:
According to prices on Zeiss' website, the ZE 50/1.5 is 30 euros more than the ZF version (579 vs. 549), and the ZE 85/1.4 is actually 50 euros LESS than the ZF version (999 vs. 1049). I think the prices have something to do with WHEN the prices for these lenses were set (costs and exchange rates, etc.). I suspect that we will probably see the prices between the versions equalized at some point soon.
So, there is my error - comparing list price to B&H's prices. So, in US currency, the differential of 30 Euros = $42. Not a bad adpter price. Now, why did I buy the D700?
Same as Canon - if you look at the pics, with ZE you twist CW (photogs perspective) as you move in from infinity.
DanPBrown wrote:
I wonder if the focus ring will turn the same direction as Canon lenses on the new ZE, or will it be like the ZF?
Dan
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