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p.1 #1 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


Here is my SECOND NEW entry for this weeks assignment. I went a little different, but I got the DOF that was wanted by all!

EDIT: Removed the stray stem. It was bothering me orginially, but I forgot about it before I changed the photo before. Thanks Photon for the reminder!

This was taken (same specs) with a Canon 30D, Olympus OM 50mm f/3.5 Macro, 12mm Canon Ext Tube, 1.4x Tamron Teleconverter, and 550ex Flash.

Shutter speed: 1/100 sec
Aperture F/22
ISO: 100

Comments and suggestions welcome! Thanks for looking!

Edited by bvassmer on Sep 07, 2008 at 11:54 AM GMT

Edited by bvassmer on Sep 08, 2008 at 07:44 AM GMT

Edited on Sep 08, 2008 at 08:44 AM



Sep 04, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Bill Sutherland
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p.1 #2 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


You're right - they don't look so tasty close up. Focus appears to be in the middle ground. Perhaps bring it more to the foreground?

Edited on Sep 05, 2008 at 03:23 AM



Sep 05, 2008 at 03:23 AM
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p.1 #3 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


Thank you for the suggestion. I either need to increase the DOF (which I am not sure how to, because the lens is stopped down all the way), or move the focus (which I think is the only option).

I will reshoot tonight!

Ben



Sep 05, 2008 at 06:29 AM
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p.1 #4 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


Hi Ben,
I like the shot, such an unusual angle.
Youve hit the age old problem of macro. the D.O.F.
If you are already at maximum f stop then the only other thing you may be able to do is bring the focus a little forward as you say. However the D.O.F will remain the same. You may be able to shoot further away with another lens and then crop in as this should incease the efective depth of field.I THINK !!!
There is another option depending on how much post work you like to do. Take the photo as it is now then bring the focus forward and take another photo focused on the front grape. As the grape has a defined edge you can cut it out and put onto your 1st picture. This may seem like cheating but in the world of macro focus stacking is quite common.
Whatever you chose to do good luck and i look forward to the result
Take care
Mark




Sep 05, 2008 at 08:02 AM
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p.1 #5 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


I agree, I think you need a broader DoF. But this is a simple problem. The maximum res you can have on one side is 640. Therefore, all you need is less macro and more crop. It may seem like cheating, but it's simply knowing your needs and taking advantage of the restrictions. Posting photos for the web is an entirely different beast then photos for print.

Good luck,
Chad



Sep 05, 2008 at 05:24 PM
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p.1 #6 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


Wow, that is good advice Chad!

Thank you!

Ben



Sep 06, 2008 at 07:32 PM
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p.1 #7 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


Hi Ben,

A very nice macro of these grapes. The shot could use a bit more depth of field. Chad's suggestion is a good one, but there is a different technique that the macro guys use call focus stacking which can work much better. If you go to the macro forum and do a search you can learn a bunch about it. I hope this helps. Good luck this week.

Steve S.



Sep 07, 2008 at 11:43 AM
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p.1 #8 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


What does everyone think of the new picture? Doesn't have as much of a macro effect, but I think the composition is better.


Sep 07, 2008 at 12:54 PM
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p.1 #9 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


Hi Ben,
You can achieve the macro effect as Chad says( far more eloquently than i managed) by cropping the image around the three grapes and then converting to 640 pixels. Give it a go as it may be what your after.
Take care
Mark



Sep 07, 2008 at 05:20 PM
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p.1 #10 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


Well, i thought about doing that, but I kindve liked the look of the oof grapes in the back...


Sep 07, 2008 at 05:30 PM
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p.1 #11 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


On tripod, shoot 2 shots with different focal points and do a merge? Maybe I am a cheater, but I could do it in the darkroom as well if that counts.


Sep 07, 2008 at 06:57 PM
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p.1 #12 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


I'm not sure if I saw the original entry, but I like the degree of in focus and oof in this.
My only nit - other than not having perfect specimens of grapes, but that's for food photographers with a budget and assistants - is the bit of stem that extends to the right in the background. It's perfectly natural for it to be there, but I just think the image would be "cleaner" if you cloned it out. I guess I don't want to see it extending outside the orbit of the bunch of grapes.



Sep 07, 2008 at 11:34 PM
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p.1 #13 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


Hi Ben,
I like both ideas so go for it. This isnt about what we like but what your happy with so best of luck whichever you chose
Mark



Sep 08, 2008 at 05:39 AM
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p.1 #14 · #309 I'll Never Eat Grapes Again.


Hi Ben,

I like this shot a lot better. Very nice work.

Steve S.



Sep 08, 2008 at 07:38 AM





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