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Ralph Conway
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@ snurretprett:

Donuasteamboatcaptainsclockworkfabrcianshelbguyjacketsknop. Thats easy :-)

avate (all verbs at the end). In a sentence, guy, not at the end of a text.
Its like with english middle. Its easy to handle anyway. But you sound funny, when you trie to speak german. We germans are doing right, because we still think we have to. :-)

Bring it to cameras: We still think we have to accept that an average camera has to be payd here at 25% higher prices. THAT really is stupid. Because most DSLRs are sold in Europe and most of them in germany. We should be able to tell companies like Canon: "No go! Those americans who buy less than half of us even they are double and have an higher incomelevel per head pay 40% of what you want to get from us. Pxxx of! Do a faire price. But germans are still stupid. They love to look up to anybody and still say "thank you" for an ass kick. Thats us. Not the verb at end of sentence.

Ralph

Sep 02, 2008 at 11:34 AM

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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

Ralph Conway wrote:
But you sound funny, when you trie to speak german. We germans are doing right, because we still think we have to. :-)

Dude, no offence, but your English is pretty funny sometimes too!

Sep 02, 2008 at 11:40 AM

Ralph Conway
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

No offence, too. You speak and understand english?

The americans always told me I sound like oxford english. The UK people mentioned my english sounds US like. Only the welsh and irish people say I sound like a german.

Edited on Sep 02, 2008 at 11:53 AM

Sep 02, 2008 at 11:53 AM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

Donaudampfschiffahrtskapitaensuhrenfabrikantsgehilfenjackenknopf, eh?
Much more fun than the actual and literal translations is for a native English speaker to read it aloud,
carelessly and with attitude.

Sep 02, 2008 at 12:24 PM

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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

Ralph Conway wrote:
No offence, too. You speak and understand english?

Believe it or not I actually do!

I wasn't born in America... or yesterday ...

The americans always told me I sound like oxford english.

they tell me that too ... I wouldn't take them too seriously!

At the moment I'm living in Brazil & I can tell you the locals are getting some good laughs at my pretty funny Portuguese!

Nevertheless, it's great to be having the conversations though isn't it? Even if we do misunderstand one another incorrectly at times!!

Sep 02, 2008 at 12:56 PM

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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

globalkiwi wrote:
It doesn't. I believe the construction of ZE was, as it's OP admitted, purely wishful thinking.

He did? Where?

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Sep 03, 2008 at 06:33 AM

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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

Das wär total irre wen Zeiss neue Optik für Canon rausbringen würde!

Würde ich kaufen...

Edited on Sep 03, 2008 at 09:52 AM

Sep 03, 2008 at 09:52 AM

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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

Yakim, here ...

SKumar25 wrote:
ZF = Z - F MOUNT (NIKON)
ZE = Z EOS?

Wishful thinking...

Edited on Sep 03, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Sep 03, 2008 at 11:29 AM

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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

ZE= Exacta

Sep 03, 2008 at 11:45 AM

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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

Maybe Canon FD mount?

Sep 03, 2008 at 11:59 AM

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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

Not be stupid...but why in the heck is this even an issue...what are all these Alt lens makers thinking by NOT have a Canon mount as part of inventory?

Sep 03, 2008 at 12:50 PM

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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

Well, this is just speculation on my part but one reason that they may not offer a Canon mount is that their licensing agreement with Nikon forbids it. Alternatively, perhaps Canon hasn't allowed them to release an EOS mount (thereby reducing competition for it's own lenses)?

Sep 03, 2008 at 01:00 PM

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globalkiwi wrote:
Well, this is just speculation on my part but one reason that they may not offer a Canon mount is that their licensing agreement with Nikon forbids it. Alternatively, perhaps Canon hasn't allowed them to release an EOS mount (thereby reducing competition for it's own lenses)?

Good points! Most likely agreements that are old too. No doubt you are right...the lawyers are involved.

Sep 03, 2008 at 01:28 PM

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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

globalkiwi wrote:
Well, this is just speculation on my part but one reason that they may not offer a Canon mount is that their licensing agreement with Nikon forbids it. Alternatively, perhaps Canon hasn't allowed them to release an EOS mount (thereby reducing competition for it's own lenses)?

Zeiss does not have, and does not need, a licensing agreement with Nikon. The Nikon F mount (as implemented in the ZF lenses) is entirely in the public domain, and hasn't been covered by any patent for many, many years.

Edited on Sep 03, 2008 at 04:00 PM

Sep 03, 2008 at 03:59 PM

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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

As I said, speculation. Does anyone know if Canon's EOS mount is in the public domain too? If not, it might explain why a Canon mount option is not common among Alt. lens makers.

Sep 03, 2008 at 04:30 PM

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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

Well there has to be a reason, it is not a mechanical challenge to make an EOS mount. The adapter mfgrs do it all the time.

But it does not really matter, just curious in a very mild way.

Sep 03, 2008 at 04:37 PM

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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Zeiss ZE lenses on September 15th?

globalkiwi wrote:
As I said, speculation. Does anyone know if Canon's EOS mount is in the public domain too? If not, it might explain why a Canon mount option is not common among Alt. lens makers.

The physical mount is likely no longer protected since it first came out in 1987, but the electronic communication protocols are probably trade secrets and are not apparently available to anyone. (Canon has publicly stated this)

Where do you get the idea that a Canon mount option isn't common? All the third party lens manufacturers have or have had Canon mount lenses. This includes Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, and Cosina. The exception is Zeiss. The electronic protocols are apparently reverse engineered...with varying levels of success.

Sep 03, 2008 at 04:43 PM