Got a 50D yesterday for a back up for me but also for someone else to use mostly. My question is the AF/ON button on the back. You can't use that button in Basic mode? I set it in creative then brought it down to basic and the AF was back on the shutter button, am I doing something wrong or won't it work in basic?
surfnron wrote:
This reminds me of the Russian weight lifter from the sixties - he was constantly breaking his own records by 1 kilogram. That's because he got a bonus from his govt. every time he broke a record. Camera companies are the same way. Incremental improvements keep the $$ coming in. I don't understand why anyone would expect a revolutionary camera instead of an evolutionary camera every time an updated model is introduced.
Same thing with wanting M III specs on an XXD model. They have to keep some separation of specs so that people will buy the more expensive cameras.
Ron
What Russian weightlifter was that by the way. I used to compete in the sport.
I hope Ulan and Ira are right because I don't remember his name, but I do remember that he was a heavyweight. If I remember correctly, he was one of the few in the USSR to drive a Mercedes at that time ~ Ron
Just a couple of quick questions about the 40D vs the 50D:
For a print size of 8"x12", with same lens, same ISO and subject:
- Does the 50D has more or less noise?
- At f/8 (above the 50D's theoretical diffraction limiting aperture, but below the 40D's) is the 40D or 50D sharper?
It seems many comparisons are made at the pixel level (noise, sharpness etc). I just want to clarify whether the 50D is the same or better than the 40D at the same print size.
vontom wrote:
Just a couple of quick questions about the 40D vs the 50D:
For a print size of 8"x12", with same lens, same ISO and subject:
- Does the 50D has more or less noise?
- At f/8 (above the 50D's theoretical diffraction limiting aperture, but below the 40D's) is the 40D or 50D sharper?
It seems many comparisons are made at the pixel level (noise, sharpness etc). I just want to clarify whether the 50D is the same or better than the 40D at the same print size.
Thanks
I own the 50D and owned the 40D until I sold it this AM. Also own 5DII.
Prints will look the same. At f/8+, you won't see any difference from diffraction because the basic nature of the files look different and are processed differently.
The 40D is the best bargain out there. 50D brings in AF micro adjustment, nice screen and new user interface on screen. Also, new menu system. I like these items because the 50D screen and layout is identical to my 5DII. Same with menus. This makes using both cameras much easier. If you are just using one camera, then these items may be of smaller value. Depending on the number of lenses you own, the AF micro adjust may be important. It is for me.
surfnron wrote:
This reminds me of the Russian weight lifter from the sixties - he was constantly breaking his own records by 1 kilogram. That's because he got a bonus from his govt. every time he broke a record. Camera companies are the same way. Incremental improvements keep the $$ coming in. I don't understand why anyone would expect a revolutionary camera instead of an evolutionary camera every time an updated model is introduced.
Same thing with wanting M III specs on an XXD model. They have to keep some separation of specs so that people will buy the more expensive cameras.
Ron
This is exactly why I waited until the 40D's got cheap to move up from my 10D.
UCSB wrote:
The 40D is the best bargain out there. 50D brings in AF micro adjustment, nice screen and new user interface on screen. Also, new menu system. I like these items because the 50D screen and layout is identical to my 5DII. Same with menus. This makes using both cameras much easier. If you are just using one camera, then these items may be of smaller value. Depending on the number of lenses you own, the AF micro adjust may be important. It is for me.
I would have to echo that.
While I would have liked the better LCD, a bit of AF, etc,
the images are not that much better.
For the landscape stuff I am doing, a lower diffraction limit is not a plus.
I am quite happy with the results from my 40D.
While I am sure the 50D is a great camera,
I think I will wait for some more revenue before I get a FF.
Basically going to keep looking for one of the following
1. 1DsMkII bargain
2. A "so cheap I can't pass it up" 5D
3. 5DmKII when I upgrade my computer to handle the file sizes
Why would Canon make the 50D with the AF/On third button but not for the grip? They should have made the 3rd button for the grip or left it alone for back button focusing.
John P Mulgrew wrote:
Why would Canon make the 50D with the AF/On third button but not for the grip? They should have made the 3rd button for the grip or left it alone for back button focusing.
They do allow you to switch the * and AF ON buttons ... this would allow you to use AF ON on the grip. But, I agree the grip should have all three buttons.
