Well, if the original page WAS genuine then I am making a prize chump of myself, but I am very skeptical about the posted specification.
I own the 40D, just under a year old. Its a great camera, but I have explored its High ISO mode and am not that impressed. This sensor is no where near ramping up to ISO 12800, at 10 megapixels, let alone 15!!! For such an advanced performance we would need a new order of sensor, something we have never seen before IMHO.
I don't see any justification for saying that sensor technology has jumped forward so dramatically in such a short time.
Of course I am ready to eat my hat if proved wrong (!) but the published specification is so far in advance of anything on the market at present that I am doubtful.
Well, if the original page WAS genuine then I am making a prize chump of myself, but I am very skeptical about the posted specification.
I saw the page before it went down. If it was a forgery, it was a very clever one, given the web address.
I own the 40D, just under a year old. Its a great camera, but I have explored its High ISO mode and am not that impressed. This sensor is no where near ramping up to ISO 12800, at 10 megapixels, let alone 15!!!
I have the 40D as well and I share your opinion of its high ISO performance. However, nowhere did it say the 12800 ISO would be very good. I can easily see Canon making it available and putting in some software tweaks to make it half decent, but not caring if it performs that well. They seem, lately, to be all about the numbers...megapixels, ISO numbers, fps, etc...rather than quality.
As someone pointed out earlier, if ISO 12800 is available at reduced resolution only, say 4MP as sRAW2 file, then it starts making sense again... Kind of...
David Baldwin wrote:
15.1 megapixels, ISO 12800 ??
C'mon, I doubt even the projected 5D Mk2 will have such a good specification, let alone the 40D replacement.
These "specifications" are obviously untrue. The in camera IS is enough to reveal this as a wind up.
Perhaps this 50D will sport anti-flying pig technology.
If these is a new 50D this year (and that is a big "if"), it will be around 12 megapixels, with a max ISO of 3200 - no expanded range.
But there again, like the sources of these rumours, I don't know what I'm talking about either.
Dude, I saw it on canons site with my own eyes.
It does NOT say in camera IS. It mentions IS lenses.
It's not an 'IF' now.
15.1mp with ISO 12800 capability is well within reach, especially considering that it's a whole new gen of DIGIC.
Man this forum has really turned into either conjecture or general pessimism (that's not targeted 'directly' at you David, more of a general observation).
Jman13 wrote:
I want to know what people who are disappointed expect on a prosumer camera. The 40D already has more features and such for a prosumer body than any other prosumer body Canon has ever produced. Heck, my 30D has everything that I need to make the images I like to take, so honestly, this looks very nice. If they managed a new sensor tech or a processing algorithm that can yield quality images at ISO 12800, that'd be HUGE. What exactly, do you want? And if you say 45 point AF and weather sealing, you're dreaming, as there would then be essentially no differentiation between the prosumer line and the pro line. (it's one of the reasons I think the Nikon D700 was a bad idea...there's no practically no reason to buy the D3...they must have destroyed D3 sales with that camera.)
"that's not targeted 'directly' at you David, more of a general observation"
No, fair play to you. I have obviously read so many Canon speculation threads that I appear to have finally reached saturation point. My fault, I shall avoid speculation threads in future until my equanimity returns!
On a more cheerful note, by wife just authorized my purchase of the projected Canon 5D Mk2, so I hope Canon bloody well release one soon!
No worries, I generally stay out of these threads (watch but don't contribute much).
I just see some small irony in the, somewhat justified, outcries about canon's recent lack of innovation. Then to see specs on their site of a new camera, people going one of 2 ways
A.) that sucks, it's just anther piece meal increment, more of the same fodder as before
or
B.) That's not even possible, no way!
It's just perplexing.
If the 5D2 has a similar feature set to the 50D I would be thrilled. Probably wanting for some better AF and more frame coverage (not necessarily more points) with the AF, but still thrilled the same. It would make a lovely back up / suppliment to my Ds3.
Anyways just seems we should relax a little on our judgement of specs from a cam whose results we have yet to see.
"...wife just authorized my purchase of the projected Canon 5D Mk2..."
and that's all that really matters, david. the MkI was/is a really nice camera, so i can only imagine what its successor will offer. (outside of dust reduction, live view, micro-adjustment, pixel boost, ISO boost, etc.)
This place needs an "I will never be happy with a Canon offering" forum. Seems to me that the complainers are looking for what is in effect a 1DsMKIII for under $1900. Even then, I suppose there'd be complaints, since it's heavy, has too many megapixels, too slow a frame rate, no mRAW, buffer fills too fast, only one cf card slot, small focus points.... On top of that, you all seem to think that Canon should be hanging on your every word! Great entertainment value. Now, back to reality...
Russ Isabella wrote:
This place needs an "I will never be happy with a Canon offering" forum. Seems to me that the complainers are looking for what is in effect a 1DsMKIII for under $1900. Even then, I suppose there'd be complaints, since it's heavy, has too many megapixels, too slow a frame rate, no mRAW, buffer fills too fast, only one cf card slot, small focus points.... On top of that, you all seem to think that Canon should be hanging on your every word! Great entertainment value. Now, back to reality...
Russ Isabella wrote:
This place needs an "I will never be happy with a Canon offering" forum. Seems to me that the complainers are looking for what is in effect a 1DsMKIII for under $1900. Even then, I suppose there'd be complaints, since it's heavy, has too many megapixels, too slow a frame rate, no mRAW, buffer fills too fast, only one cf card slot, small focus points.... On top of that, you all seem to think that Canon should be hanging on your every word! Great entertainment value. Now, back to reality...
gml1 wrote:
Is it unrealistic for Canon users to ask for a D300-equivalent?
I'm truly happy for the 1D users but for some of us this is just a hobby, you know.
if i was doing it just as a hobby, i'd be happy with my old 20D.....
Russ Isabella wrote:
This place needs an "I will never be happy with a Canon offering" forum. Seems to me that the complainers are looking for what is in effect a 1DsMKIII for under $1900. Even then, I suppose there'd be complaints, since it's heavy, has too many megapixels, too slow a frame rate, no mRAW, buffer fills too fast, only one cf card slot, small focus points.... On top of that, you all seem to think that Canon should be hanging on your every word! Great entertainment value. Now, back to reality...