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p.3 #1 · What made you think you're a pro?


Nathan Hobbs wrote:
When you buy a camera body that costs over 4,000 dollars you are either
A. A professional
B. In need of professional help

:-)


And C.: making such a ridiculous amount of money per year that 4k is a drop in the ocean.

... Gee, I wish I was a C. Now I'm a potential B, but I've managed to not take the plunge just yet.



May 09, 2008 at 11:57 AM
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p.3 #2 · What made you think you're a pro?


I have no idea, all I know is I'm a professional hobbyist.


May 09, 2008 at 12:00 PM
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p.3 #3 · What made you think you're a pro?


When I use "pro" bodies as designated by Canon...


May 09, 2008 at 12:16 PM
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p.3 #4 · What made you think you're a pro?


I'll go with the definition that says if you make money from it, you're a pro.

Whether you are a competent pro, or are the kind of pro who is capable of producing results that please your clients (and you) time after time under sometimes trying conditions, that's another question.

Whether you are producing art is also another question entirely.



May 09, 2008 at 12:27 PM
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p.3 #5 · What made you think you're a pro?


i generate a fairly consistant 5 digit annual income from stock and paid assignments as well as take calls from agencies or mags to cover events or do one-off celeb portraits. i am not a pro photographer--i have a regular 50 hour a week job. the pro's i know are much more dedicated to the work and can cover a wider array of assignments than i can. so just a hobbyist who can cover his expenses.

Edited on May 09, 2008 at 12:33 PM



May 09, 2008 at 12:29 PM
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p.3 #6 · What made you think you're a pro?


...and all this time I thought there was some connection between the word profess and the word professional. Now it appears to me that whatever people profess themselves to be makes them a professional at that which they profess to be.

The logical conclusion would be that the value of "professional" would be in exact proportion to the fulfillment of that which was professed, no more, no less.

Q: In present day language, what is the difference between "Standard" and "Pro"?

A: Standard is made of grey plastic, while Pro is made of black plastic.



Edited on May 09, 2008 at 01:15 PM



May 09, 2008 at 01:13 PM
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p.3 #7 · What made you think you're a pro?


A paycheck?


May 09, 2008 at 01:48 PM
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p.3 #8 · What made you think you're a pro?


To me:

Pro: Makes a living off of their work
Semi-Pro: Make supplemental income off their work
Enthusiast: Uses pro gear but little or no income
Amatures: Shoots for fun

It doesn't define skill though.



May 09, 2008 at 01:50 PM
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p.3 #9 · What made you think you're a pro?


I'd agree from a poster above - folks have spent a long time creating dictionaries so that we could look up the definition of words.

From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/professional

Main Entry: 1pro·fes·sion·al
Pronunciation: \prə-ˈfesh-nəl, -ˈfe-shə-nəl\
Function: adjective
Date: 1606
1 a: of, relating to, or characteristic of a profession b: engaged in one of the learned professions c (1): characterized by or conforming to the technical or ethical standards of a profession (2): exhibiting a courteous, conscientious, and generally businesslike manner in the workplace
2 a: participating for gain or livelihood in an activity or field of endeavor often engaged in by amateurs <a professional golfer> b: having a particular profession as a permanent career <a professional soldier> c: engaged in by persons receiving financial return <professional football>
3: following a line of conduct as though it were a profession <a professional patriot>



May 09, 2008 at 02:37 PM
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p.3 #10 · What made you think you're a pro?


We used to say," If your income is at least 60% from any phase of photography" then , you are indeed a "PRO" my boy.
Tom



May 09, 2008 at 04:05 PM
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p.3 #11 · What made you think you're a pro?


rebelxtnewbie wrote:
To me:

Pro: Makes a living off of their work
Semi-Pro: Make supplemental income off their work
Enthusiast: Uses pro gear but little or no income
Amatures: Shoots for fun

It doesn't define skill though.


I like this summary, it's simple and concise. I'm a semi-pro. I like to think that I approach photography in a professional matter.



May 09, 2008 at 05:03 PM
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p.3 #12 · What made you think you're a pro?


btw, why does it matter? you can either take a great shot or you can't


May 09, 2008 at 05:23 PM
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p.3 #13 · What made you think you're a pro?


Similarly, you can either address the original poster's question, or not. If not, why bother?


May 09, 2008 at 05:42 PM
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p.3 #14 · What made you think you're a pro?


I told myself when I bought my 30D that within 2 years, I'll be doing paid work. Since I am laid up from surgery, I've extended that 3 months (so by April of 2010, I'll have to do paid work).

Since I'll be shooting some little league games soon, and the parents may purchase prints from me...I may be a pro sooner.



May 09, 2008 at 06:17 PM
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p.3 #15 · What made you think you're a pro?


jcolwell

i did, see post further up



May 09, 2008 at 06:19 PM
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p.3 #16 · What made you think you're a pro?


rbranan, your "post further up" has nothing to do with my comment on your post further down.


May 09, 2008 at 06:38 PM
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p.3 #17 · What made you think you're a pro?


I realized I was a pro when people said I should be paid for my work and did.
I realized I was an artist when people thought my having gotten the perfect moment on film was a kind of a miracle I made happen...when all the individual moments in the frame met at the same time to form a complete unified world...truth be told, I don't always know exactly how it happens either...
As to what makes a quality photog, I've always thought it was the degree of self-reflection and self-critique that helps to know which 10% of my shots are really good.



May 09, 2008 at 07:59 PM
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p.3 #18 · What made you think you're a pro?


Most people are a "pro" at something. Do you think professional people continually question their own abilities, or have to remind others of their professional status? Acting professional at what you do goes without saying. The art end of photography is always in the eye of the beholder, client or not. Show your portfolio to the ASMP or PPA if you want official recognition.


May 09, 2008 at 08:35 PM
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p.3 #19 · What made you think you're a pro?


I think a pro would be someone that lives for the perfect shot and their heart and soul are dedicated to the art of photography not only the capture of the shot but the willingness to help others to learn and capture the perfect shot .... making money is just a perk all be it a good perk still just a perk

to stand up in front of people and say " I'm a pro " is saying i make my living from photography ...... but to have people say he is a pro about you is to have touched that person with what they think is the pefect capture that is a ........ Pro



May 09, 2008 at 08:55 PM
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p.3 #20 · What made you think you're a pro?


spankys1 wrote:
... to stand up in front of people and say " I'm a pro " is saying i make my living from photography

agreed.



May 09, 2008 at 09:05 PM
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