Update for spring 2009 (same league): we did it all conventional this year. Not sure what they'll do in 2010, though. Saturday was 40 and 50 MPH winds. Bad bad bad. Sunday was intermittent thundershowers. *sigh*
James Broome wrote:
No. Doing team photos on photo day is WAY less work. Well, it's less work, anyway. Maybe not way less. If my lighting is right and my green drops like it should, it takes me about 25 minutes or so to create the team picture. Compare that with how long it takes to arrange and shoot conventionally and you can see that doing it conventionally is less time consuming. <snip>
James,
Over here we dont usually do the individual shots, just team ones, so we just line up the team and have at it. I'm just wondering, how long does the shooting take - assuming they are in a line and ready to go? as in, how many kids per hour would / could you shoot?
I have a few questions for you James.
First. This season I was asked to do something different. Some coaches and parents asked me to implement bats into the team shot. Have you ever done anything like this?
I did a few test shots without the screen or lighting just to see what they would look like and I don't think I like it very much. I like the idea just not all the technical issues I will deal with.
Second. Do you have parents ever complain about the heights of the kids in the way you lay your images out? I mean has any parent said anything about their kid in the front row is actually taller than the kid next to them or one of the kids behind them?
Homey wrote:
Do you have parents ever complain about the heights of the kids in the way you lay your images out? I mean has any parent said anything about their kid in the front row is actually taller than the kid next to them or one of the kids behind them?
Yes. That's my number 1 complaint. What I plan on doing for the next green screen job is making sure to take the pictures in order of height. In other words, I'll line the kids up shortest to tallest, then take their pictures one at a time. That way, when I have them on my machine after the shoot, I'll know which ones are shorter and which ones are taller.
cogard wrote:
Cool stuff James, the team shot looks kind of weird though because you don't see the bodies of the coaches or players on the second row
I looked at that image for a few min. trying to figure out if I just didn't notice the bodies/legs then started to read the rest of the comments to see if anyone else noticed.
RochinPhotog wrote:
I looked at that image for a few min. trying to figure out if I just didn't notice the bodies/legs then started to read the rest of the comments to see if anyone else noticed.
It is kinda weird but took a min. to notice.
Yeah, I learned a lot from that image and the resulting comments. The kids and coaches need to be placed closer together than that. No doubt. (check the 2nd example in the thread)
James Broome wrote:
This is a chroma key green. They're not lime at all, actually.
Oh, and overexposing the background results in bad BAD things. The green bounces onto your subject and you get bleed. Not a fun thing for the software to deal with at all!
I solved this issue by purchasing a second background - chroma key blue!
I thought the overexposure issue was only a problem if your background is too close to your subject. Your subject should be far enough front to negate any light reflected from the background.
James Broome wrote:
Yes. That's my number 1 complaint. What I plan on doing for the next green screen job is making sure to take the pictures in order of height. In other words, I'll line the kids up shortest to tallest, then take their pictures one at a time. That way, when I have them on my machine after the shoot, I'll know which ones are shorter and which ones are taller.
I've not tried this method yet, but what I was thinking of was putting a scale over to one side of the shot, that I would crop out later. Even just marks on the green paper at 5' , 5'6", 6', ... A bit like the heigh guides that they tape to the exit doors of gas stations and concenience stores. That way you dont care what sequence they come in.....
