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Archive 2008 · First DSLR: Need advice deciding between Used 20D and New 400D

  
 
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p.3 #1 · First DSLR: Need advice deciding between Used 20D and New 400D


Neither of those are exactly true, and neither counts as "evidence," though I'd be willing to accept it as your "opinion." Mine is different.

Dan

jvarszegi wrote:
We've been over this... many times. For starters, the images the cameras produce. Further, the 400D sensor is less sensitive to light, forcing one to use slower settings in low light.




Mar 28, 2008 at 05:50 PM
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p.3 #2 · First DSLR: Need advice deciding between Used 20D and New 400D


danmitchell wrote:
Neither of those are exactly true, and neither counts as "evidence," though I'd be willing to accept it as your "opinion." Mine is different.

Dan



Facts are facts, and what I said is exactly true.



Mar 28, 2008 at 07:30 PM
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p.3 #3 · First DSLR: Need advice deciding between Used 20D and New 400D


Got it. If you say it is true, it must be true. That's all the evidence anyone should need...

Dan



Mar 28, 2008 at 08:49 PM
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p.3 #4 · First DSLR: Need advice deciding between Used 20D and New 400D


I am a fan of the build of the 30D/20D, much so more than the XXXD's. and the high iso is a little better, but a little better really means a whole lot in my book. Not to mention the higher frame rate.


Mar 29, 2008 at 12:45 AM
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p.3 #5 · First DSLR: Need advice deciding between Used 20D and New 400D


I have a 350D and i must confess i've been delighted with it - don't be put off the Rebels because they're "bottom of the range".

I shan't comment on the ISO and autofocus performance (as you're looking at the somewhat upgraded 400D) but with respect to lenses I'd echo the points raised about the standard kit lens - i found mine to be awful and rapidly replaced it with a 17-40mm L and a 50mm F1.8. Both of these are super lenses. Its good advice to pay more for the lenses and less for the camera.

Don't worry about build quality by the way - my 350D gets rain, snow and -20C and hasn't coughed once. The 30D etc might be better, but the Rebels more than meet minimum standard.

David's comment about choosing a completely different format is worth considering. One of my good friends (and a professional research physicist) has spent the last couple of months looking into exactly the purchase choices you are thinking of and he's going with an olympus E510...



Mar 29, 2008 at 02:40 AM
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p.3 #6 · First DSLR: Need advice deciding between Used 20D and New 400D


danmitchell wrote:
Got it. If you say it is true, it must be true. That's all the evidence anyone should need...

Dan


The problem is when you repeatedly post lies in support of the 400D.



Mar 29, 2008 at 07:57 AM
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p.3 #7 · First DSLR: Need advice deciding between Used 20D and New 400D


15Bit wrote:
I have a 350D and i must confess i've been delighted with it - don't be put off the Rebels because they're "bottom of the range".

I shan't comment on the ISO and autofocus performance (as you're looking at the somewhat upgraded 400D) but with respect to lenses I'd echo the points raised about the standard kit lens - i found mine to be awful and rapidly replaced it with a 17-40mm L and a 50mm F1.8. Both of these are super lenses. Its good advice to pay more for the lenses and less for the camera.

Don't worry about build
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High ISO sensor performance will actually be higher on the 350D than the 400D, although the AF will be better on the 400D.



Mar 29, 2008 at 07:58 AM
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p.3 #8 · First DSLR: Need advice deciding between Used 20D and New 400D


danmitchell wrote:
Got it. If you say it is true, it must be true. That's all the evidence anyone should need...

Dan


Here's just one link:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1031&message=20548088&changemode=1

One can also view, just for starters, the settings on the controlled studio shots at DPReview for the 30D vs. the 400D (identical but faster shutter speed on the 30D), etc.

The thing that makes you a liar is that I posted all this and more previously in a thread where you were saying the same thing. Comparisons clearly showing the difference were all over the web when the 400D was new. You may have been counting on the fact that some of those pages are now unavailable. Either way, you're giving the wrong advice, and knowingly.

Edited on Mar 29, 2008 at 08:27 AM



Mar 29, 2008 at 08:25 AM
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