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Archive 2007 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22

  
 
Graham Mitchell
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p.1 #1 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Some people have asked me for a sample RAW file of a person, so here's a DNG file you can look at. Note, because it is RAW you will need to adjust white balance correctly yourself. I'm not including the test shot with the grey card. This image is only to be used for evaluation purposes and may not be reproduced.

http://download.yousendit.com/D4D92FCF5B1A03CC (limited to 1 week and 100 downloads)

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/image0426.jpg

I'm not too worried about the Canon 1Ds3




Edited by foto-z on Dec 05, 2007 at 05:26 AM GMT



Dec 04, 2007 at 07:31 PM
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p.1 #2 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Excellent facial detail in the eyelids, eyebrows, skin texture and fine hairs at the hairline at 100%. Very impressive, indeed!


Dec 04, 2007 at 08:25 PM
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p.1 #3 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


I'm looking for a program to open the file. Will CS2 work? or DPP? I'm working on a G5 mac. I know about dng but haven't worked with any yet.


Dec 04, 2007 at 08:58 PM
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p.1 #4 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


CS2 should work. Can't test it as I run CS3 now.


Dec 04, 2007 at 09:12 PM
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p.1 #5 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Raw Developer on the Mac is a very good converter as well. Thats what I used to open it with. Since its DNG though, I would think CS2 should work fine.


Dec 04, 2007 at 09:32 PM
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p.1 #6 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


LightZone!

Graham, could you post the details regarding camera, lens and digital back?


Edited by tom in mpls on Dec 04, 2007 at 08:47 PM GMT



Dec 04, 2007 at 09:39 PM
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p.1 #7 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Rollei 6008AF
Sinar eMotion22
Schneider 180mm f2.8 lens @ f4
1/500
ISO 25
converted to DNG using Brumbaer tools



Dec 04, 2007 at 09:41 PM
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p.1 #8 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Graham:

It looks better than any Canon or Nikon file that I have seen.

Does the eMotion have a sensitivity to IR? In the DNG it looked like her black blouse has some IR problems in it. Your dedicated Sinar software may just correct for this in the profile.

Robert



Dec 04, 2007 at 11:48 PM
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p.1 #9 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


robsteve wrote:
Does the eMotion have a sensitivity to IR?


It shouldn't. There is a normal IR filter over the sensor. Perhaps it is just the way the fabric looks because I haven't noticed this before.



Dec 04, 2007 at 11:54 PM
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p.1 #10 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Here is what ACR gave me. It definately looks like IR.

http://www.robsteve.com/GetDPI/Image-0426.jpg


Here is your version:

http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/image0426.jpg



Dec 05, 2007 at 12:03 AM
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p.1 #11 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Hello, thanks again for doing this!

Adam



Dec 05, 2007 at 02:06 AM
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p.1 #12 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Excellent file. The eyes, forehead, hair, under nose skin texture is awesome, but what really pops out is the lips and teeth. Now that's detail. ISO 25 looks sweet.

I had to turn the standard sharpening settings that I use down in Lightroom for this file because of the sharpness, compared to the appropriate settings for my Canon files.



Dec 05, 2007 at 03:06 AM
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p.1 #13 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Was she wearing a black top or not? The above two images are quite different in terms of colour


Dec 05, 2007 at 06:37 AM
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p.1 #14 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


It's probably a black top. When I pulled up the image in ACR (not the latest version) I got the same magenta cast as robsteve, and could minimize it but could not get rid of it.

Definitely an impressive file, though, and even better when processed properly.



Dec 05, 2007 at 06:51 AM
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p.1 #15 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Disregard the colour issue, because the DNG route is not my normal workflow and I probably don't have it set up properly. My preview JPEG is using my normal workflow and the black shirt is black as you can see.


Dec 05, 2007 at 07:40 AM
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p.1 #16 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


I had to fool around with the DNG for quite some time to get the colors right.

But in the end, the top was black, her skin was a nice peachy color (none of that yellow stuff) and overall I was impressed by the image.

On another note, I just played with an awesome 1Ds3 file, and I must say, the 1Ds3 is doing very nicely..

Adam



Dec 05, 2007 at 12:22 PM
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p.1 #17 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Graham:

You may have done this previously and I missed it but can you post a landscape shot? Something with tree leaves in the background. It's OK also, though not required, if there's a cute model in the foreground :-). You've posted lots of shots like this but only web jpg's ... I don't remember a raw. No big hurry ... just when you can.

Thanks



Dec 05, 2007 at 06:13 PM
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p.1 #18 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


IMPORTANT

After some feedback on this DNG file and especially some colour and highlight issues, I have to say that I have never used the DNG conversion before and it is not part of my ordinary workflow. Therefore the DNG file is only useful as a measure of the file's resolution and detail.

I chose the DNG format to try to be helpful but it only opened a can of worms.

So.. here is an 8 bit TIFF (16 bit was too large) of the same file exported as a TIFF from Captureshop with basic curves applied in Photoshop.

No colour correction applied, and the shirt is black as you can see. Some of the colour fringing is much better too.

http://download.yousendit.com/A316153B5CD90E9A (limited to 1 week, 100 downloads)

Edited by foto-z on Dec 06, 2007 at 12:35 PM GMT



Dec 05, 2007 at 08:40 PM
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p.1 #19 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Graham: Your effort is greatly appreciated. What an awesome group of people we have here !


Dec 05, 2007 at 09:44 PM
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p.1 #20 · Another sample shot (girl) from Sinar e22


Thanks Graham, it was fun to play around with this file.

As an example, here's what I got from Lightroom:
http://www.yousendit.com/download/www/UXloanZsT010Ni9IRGc9PQ (8 bit tif, 61MB, 7 days, 100 downloads)



Dec 06, 2007 at 12:01 AM
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