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Archive 2006 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Marco
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p.3 #1 · p.3 #1 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Thanks Robert,

that shot is amazing, beautiful separation from the background, typical Leica look.
Coming from a zoom this is even more impressive.
My 280/4 Apo has definitely someting wrong...

robsteve wrote:
BTW, when I had my R9 into Kindermann for a meter repair they set a global minus 1/3 stop for all the metering modes. This was done through the camera software via their repair equipment. It works much better this way with the DMR.

Robert

I can understand it, as my R9/DMR seems to slightly overexpose in most conditions.

Dec 27, 2006 at 03:44 PM

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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

With the R9, you can put the film back on and set an exposure comp for the matrix metering, but it will not affect manual, average and spot metering. With my camera, they turned down all the metering modes by 1/3. I think it is just in their meter calibration setup. The R9 is connected to a computer and the metering is programmed via the computer.

Dec 27, 2006 at 04:41 PM

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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Here is the 105-280mm on full frame slide film. These are just a straight scan of the slides with only spotting for correction. On the barn I did a bit of Photoshop work to darken a new tin roof panel to match the rest.


	http://www.robsteve.com/FM/PrideOfBaltimoreII.jpg


	http://www.robsteve.com/FM/redbarn.jpg

Dec 27, 2006 at 05:40 PM

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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

carstenw wrote:
John, I am sure others will chime in here, but I recall early posts about such problems, and they were often caused by dirt on the contacts. Have you tried carefully cleaning the contacts on both sides?

Carsten:

Did that and it worked well for one series of shots. The next morning I turned it back on and the viewfinder was not reading the f-stop set on the lens, the shutter would not engage and then exposures started disappearing from my memory card. Very strange behavior. Half the time the back won't wake up until I remove the battery, let it sit for a bit and reinsert.

John

Dec 27, 2006 at 07:51 PM

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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

robsteve wrote:
Some of the older R8 had problems with the contacts. The newer style contacts have a hollow spot in the middle of them for the pin to nestle into. I have an older R8 (old style contacts) that did not work properly ( wouldn't wind) with the DMR, but after I cleaned everthing up it seemed to work fine. I only kept it as a backup, as I use a R9 on the DMR.

Send the combined unit into wither Leica NJ or Kindermann in Canada if the R8 is out of warranty. Kindermann will fix it quicker, but will charge....Show more →

Robert:

I will probably go the Leica NJ route as the DMR is new and under warranty and that could be the issue, although doubtful. The R8 needs a service at any rate as a switch is off the front. I justed wanted a contact at Leica so I could call before sending and have someone to follow-up with. I went through a dealer last year for a CLA on my 350mm and it took 6 months to get it back. I'm hoping for better service from them with the new DMR.

John

Dec 27, 2006 at 07:59 PM

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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Rob,
The sailing boat and barn are fantastic, if I took them they'd both be on my wall. I seem to recall that you use ND filters on some of your shots... did you use them here ?

David

Dec 27, 2006 at 10:34 PM

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p.3 #7 · p.3 #7 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

I really like the Ship capture as well, it has a very 3D quality to it, it feels almost like its moving.

Dec 27, 2006 at 11:06 PM

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zaknat wrote:
Rob,
The sailing boat and barn are fantastic, if I took them they'd both be on my wall. I seem to recall that you use ND filters on some of your shots... did you use them here ?

David

The barn shot only had a warming polarizer. I think the ship may have had a polarizer too.

Dec 27, 2006 at 11:47 PM

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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Pauly C wrote:
I really like the Ship capture as well, it has a very 3D quality to it, it feels almost like its moving.

I have had a lot of comments on the ship shot. It is the Pride of Baltimore II during Tall ships 2000 in Halifax. I went out the night before the ship was due hoping it might come in at night and have some good light. I got lucky with the light and the sky. It was just before the sun went down.

I have posted a Noctilux shot of another boat that came in that evening. It was taken after the sun went down using the Noctilux on a M6.

Dec 27, 2006 at 11:52 PM

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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Hi! I have had my DMR now for about 4 months, and enjoying it immensely! However, there is one annoying thing that I must be careful of: I cannot let the base of my palm rest on the battery. If I do, the battery occasionally gets pushed inwards and outwards - just enough for the DMR to shut down and start up again. If that happens, the file that is being written gets lost. I am also worried about corrupting the DMR if it happens too much...?!

Does anyone else have this problem? And if so, what suggestions? I am thinking of sticking a foam pad on the end of each battery to minimise movement. Thanks for your ideas!

Dec 27, 2006 at 11:54 PM

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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Rob, great images!

I remember both and they are just beautiful, stunning colors.

James,

so far I never encountered your problem, but maybe the foam pad is a good idea, it probably makes the camera even easier to handhold.

Dec 28, 2006 at 06:08 AM

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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

As for my 280/4 Apo, I just made a brief test against the 300/4L IS on the 1Ds, same subject and distance, 1/500 sec f/4 putting the lens on a support, no IS.
Wide open they give more or less the same detail, maybe the 280 has a slight edge, but the 280/DMR combo should be visibly better because of the higher magnification.
The 1Ds has only about 5% more linear resolution, not enough to compensate for the 1.37x cropping factor of the DMR.

Is the 280/4 Apo equal or maybe worse than the 300/4L IS wide open ?!?

A trip to Solms is needed...

Dec 28, 2006 at 06:49 AM

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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Marco wrote:
Is the 280/4 Apo equal or maybe worse than the 300/4L IS wide open ?!?

A trip to Solms is needed...

It should be twice as good. I shot my 105-280mm wide open against my 300mm f4 L non IS on a Canon 1D and the Canon lens looked out of focus compared to the Leica.

Dec 28, 2006 at 09:47 AM

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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

James To

The battery on my DMR also moves in-and-out when I push it inadvertently with my palm but it has never powered down nor have I lost images as a result of this. My understanding is that not all units exhibit this behavior.

Dec 28, 2006 at 11:06 AM

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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Marco

Guy described the 280/4 APO as razor sharp and if I remember correctly that was wide open, and maybe even better than both versions of the new 180's, both of which may even outdo the 100 macro. Seems like something may be wrong with your your 280.

Dec 28, 2006 at 11:17 AM

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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Just left the 280 to my dealer, who will send it to Solms for a complete revision.

He also lent me a 35-70/3.5 Germany, to test against my 35-70/4 ROM.
He said that many prefer it to the current f/4.
I know it is a Minolta design, no ROM available and it has an awfully long mfd (1 meter...) but I'm curious nonetheless because I like its compactness and integrated hood.

Today I also bought from another dealer a used Summicron-M 28/2 Asph for my M8 and incidentally he also stated that the 35-70/3.5 Germany is better than the current 35-70/4... though nothing (even primes) beats the 35-70/2.8, he had one that he showed me, but I couldn't handle it because it was already sold for mere 6300 €...

Dec 28, 2006 at 05:08 PM

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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

Looks like someone took his ball and went home.

Sad, I really liked playing with that ball.

Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas.

Dec 28, 2006 at 09:14 PM

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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

After following the original DMR Bible from its inception, I finally made the full commitment by purchasing Kurt s R9/DMR and his full Telyt system(280,400,1x,1.4x and2x). I know from the thread that you can benefit by tuning the R9 to a specific screen and magnifier. So far looks pretty spectacular and I was using Leica and Zeiss lenses on my 5D.

Dec 29, 2006 at 03:43 PM

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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

wow, congratulations!
You will REALLY like the R9/DMR tele modules, esp for wildlife but also for sports and landscape.
I use the Brightscreen magnifier, but went back to the standard scr5een. The big micrprism just was too busy and often back focused.
I had my standard screen ($72) brightened and crop lined by Bill Maxwell, and like it a lot.
Regards
Victor

Dec 29, 2006 at 04:34 PM

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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · •Hands-On• Leica DMR

glenerrolrd wrote:
After following the original DMR Bible from its inception, I finally made the full commitment by purchasing Kurt s R9/DMR and his full Telyt system(280,400,1x,1.4x and2x). I know from the thread that you can benefit by tuning the R9 to a specific screen and magnifier. So far looks pretty spectacular and I was using Leica and Zeiss lenses on my 5D.

Welcome to the slippery slope. It seems more and more people are buying a DMR.

If you need any lenses, don't forget to post some queries here. I think between the DMR owners here, we have tried pretty well every Leica R lens made.

Robert

Dec 29, 2006 at 05:12 PM

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