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shirozina
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'tilt' photography is all the fashion at the moment for people without ideas to put an unusual look on an ordinary scene - reminds me of the zoom and expose craze when zoom lenses became popular. The very useful use of tilt is in studio photography where you can extend sharpness along a plane that is not parallel to the film/sensor.Shift is far more usefull in my opinion for both stitching and for avoiding converging verticals in architecture and interior photography. Unfortunatley the 40mm with only 12mm of shift is not going to get many architectural photographers interested esp if the price is around what a 40mm is from Hassleblad for the V series.

Sep 13, 2006 at 08:55 AM

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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Still waiting for that 25mm T/S!

Sep 13, 2006 at 09:35 AM

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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · new Zeiss T/S lens

If you guys think people want to buy expensive tilt lenses to throw objects OUT of focus, you are mistaken.
John, do you mean you are waiting for a better 25TSE?

Sep 13, 2006 at 09:50 AM

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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Whew, Thought for a moment I'd lost focus with the rest of the world. lol

Sep 13, 2006 at 10:03 AM

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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · new Zeiss T/S lens

dcmiller wrote:
If you guys think people want to buy expensive tilt lenses to throw objects OUT of focus, you are mistaken.
John, do you mean you are waiting for a better 25TSE?

For architectural work/interiors, shifting and tilting are handy features for perspective and focus control. Right now, there is no Zeiss 25TS at all. A 25Shift version never made it past prototype stage.

Sep 13, 2006 at 10:06 AM

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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Stephen said he only had time for some quick shots. So he could shoot some attractive women, or line up bottles to show an altered plane of focus. Who can blame him? Babes over bottles.

Edited by dcmiller on Sep 13, 2006 at 09:18 AM GMT

Sep 13, 2006 at 10:16 AM

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p.3 #7 · p.3 #7 · new Zeiss T/S lens

jjlphoto wrote:
For architectural work/interiors, shifting and tilting are handy features for perspective and focus control. Right now, there is no Zeiss 25TS at all. A 25Shift version never made it past prototype stage.

I was refering to the Canon 24TSE. But I realize this lens is not ideal for interiors.

Sep 13, 2006 at 10:17 AM

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p.3 #8 · p.3 #8 · new Zeiss T/S lens

dcmiller wrote:
I was refering to the Canon 24TSE. But I realize this lens is not ideal for interiors.

dcmiller-

This is the "Alternative Forum"! You should know better than to mention that lens!

Sep 13, 2006 at 10:25 AM

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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Yeah I know. But it's also the alternate DIGITAL forum, and theres a thread on MF film cameras the forum police haven't moderated. So I'm going wild.

Sep 13, 2006 at 10:33 AM

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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · new Zeiss T/S lens

What is the alternative (apart from the super rare OL24) to the 24mm TS-E? Sometimes when shooting exteriors and interiors there is no alternative but to pull out the 24mm TS-E.

Sep 13, 2006 at 11:11 AM

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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · new Zeiss T/S lens

You are right, Babes over Bottles, but I want them all in focus.

Sep 13, 2006 at 11:27 AM

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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Can't you guys take a joke?

I'm guessing that if threads started up regarding the Canon 24TSE, it would get moved to the Canon Forum.

Sep 13, 2006 at 11:30 AM

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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · new Zeiss T/S lens

jjlphoto wrote:
Can't you guys take a joke?

O.K., but just one please...

Sep 13, 2006 at 11:50 AM

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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Ok- I´m amazed that some have never seen a sharp picture from a Zeiss Lens before, so here we go : there is sample 15 on the www.hartblei.de/english.htm with a cutout of full size 1:1. remember this is f 1:2,8 open aperture and no tripod was used with 400 Asa and a bouncer flash, background is already pretty dark twilight on Maidan/Kreshatik. This is not sharpened, only opened with Aperture and exported as cropped 1:1 Version.I guess there is not much to say about that.

Same applies to the other cutouts. Also to be mentioned is they are shot INTO the incoming sunlight, all open aperture and how good the saturation and shadow details are NO whatsoever manipulation done. If you can do this with a lensbaby - congratulations, than you are probably a genius. Me after 30 years of Largeformat Photography am quite Happy I can manage to do this with the Zeiss stuff.......

BTW the German aluminium has got a much higher density and resistance against scratches, but also costa about 3 times as much as normal stuff. The lenses are centered and measured with a Zeiss K6 computerized Measurement setup worth over 100k € so it´s made shure every lens is fit and mounted correctly.
This applies to the same standards as Zeiss uses.

Lensbaby.............Pah...........Good joke really.

Stefan

Sep 13, 2006 at 12:11 PM

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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Stefan Steib wrote:
Ok- I´m amazed that some have never seen a sharp picture from a Zeiss Lens before

Stefan- you're preaching to the choir here. I currently own Contax Distagons 21/2.8, 28/2.0, and a PC35/2.8. I have also owned many many other Zeiss Contax lenses, including the 85/1.2.

Sep 13, 2006 at 12:18 PM

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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Yup I know, of course people have seen this, but I really wonder why some refuse to see the obvious: you can cut with sharpnes through a picture with FULL control exactly where you want to have it. You can build up a fully new view or perspektive. Some people pay 10 grands for getting the same stuff with 2.0/ 300mm´s or similar. They only can use this in parallel to their film/chip plane. Now you can isolate exactly the point that you want to show. I have shot so many sharp pictures during my lif I´m really bored of that. I had so much fun doing these test shots, I took about 500 on this day with about 30 different locations, it´s amazing how fast you can be with this setup. Whereas with Mediumformat film you would have the need of at least some porty flash stuff this is really a handout and shoot solution. Shure the same lenses go perfectly as workhorses in the studio, but is life really all about doing another 50 sharp shots of washing powder packages or a screwdriver catalog ? Come on if a photographer stops experimenting he´s probably already dead even though still walking.

Stefan

Sep 13, 2006 at 12:44 PM

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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · new Zeiss T/S lens

I like the possibilities these lenses offer. Not sure if I'll like the price.

Sep 13, 2006 at 01:03 PM

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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Stefan, Forgive my rather dry sense of humor. I'm really trying not to slip down Guy's "slippery slope" of exotic glass. But if the 120 comes in at a reasonable (to me) price I'll buy one. John

Sep 13, 2006 at 01:24 PM

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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Uh, say Paul could you do a little latin translation for me, google doesn't and I'm afraid to ask any little old latin teachers because of what I think it is. The signature line is whats in question.

Sep 13, 2006 at 01:30 PM

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p.3 #20 · p.3 #20 · new Zeiss T/S lens

Stefan, we're having fun. I doubt if any one here is concerned about the quality of Zeiss. I was hoping the price would be more 35mm than medium format, but I understand why it is priced high. Most Canon users will have difficulty justifying this lens, due to less expensive alternative. But it's a big world and I'm sure these lenses will do well.

Sep 13, 2006 at 01:42 PM

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