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Archive 2006 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate

  
 
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p.7 #1 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


DrPablo wrote:
I'd think that if lenses can support ridiculously high resolution things like 8x10 and 11x14 cameras (heck 20x24 cameras), then they'd be able to support a 22 MP 24x36mm chip. Unless the contention is that LF has so much excess resolution that you can get away with film out-resolving the lens.


Most 4x5 lenses resolve about 40-60 l/mm and film outresolves the lens in this case. 135mm lenses need much more lines as the same picture is recorded on a smaller surface and the information is compressed more in this case.

I think at least some of the Canon lenses will not have problems with a 22mp body



Sep 18, 2006 at 04:26 AM
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p.7 #2 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


Follow-up on the S5 Pro resolution numbers:

I asked the guy who posted the information (dual mode high DR 2x 8.35 mpixel, 16.7 combined). He got them through the word-of-mouth protocol, so no websites to point at, nor other forms of confirmation. So these numbers keep their "rumour" status.



Sep 18, 2006 at 07:13 AM
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p.7 #3 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


bathman wrote:
135mm lenses need much more lines as the same picture is recorded on a smaller surface and the information is compressed more in this case.

I think at least some of the Canon lenses will not have problems with a 22mp body


I may be completely confused about this, but intuitively I'd think that a 6 MP DSLR would be much more dependant on good glass than a 22 MP DSLR.

A sensor that is so inherently limited really couldn't afford any detail loss because of bad glass. I'd think that a higher res sensor would be less impaired by glass quality, just because it is more capable of capturing what the lens transmits.



Sep 19, 2006 at 12:19 AM
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p.7 #4 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


It is the other way around. If you compare two sensors of the same size, then the one with fewer pixels also has larger pixels, which thus collect light from a larger area of the lens, thus stressing each microarea less, since it averages over this area anyway. The smaller the pixels, the more important it is that light is transmitted cleanly and sharply from each microarea, otherwise the extra resolution of the sensor only collects noise.


Sep 19, 2006 at 02:45 AM
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p.7 #5 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


Re the fuji S5.
From a recent article in bjp that I do not have to hand the fuji man said that the S3 was definately now finished and that whilst they were still wishing to remain in the high end dslr market no new camera woudl be shown (or even perhaps announced) at this coming photokina.



Sep 19, 2006 at 04:20 AM
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foto-z wrote:
Hi, I would not rely on my post but my friend does beta testing for several manufacturers and is very well-connected so I thought it was worth posting. He mentioned that they weren't getting better IQ, just bigger files. I am not sure why, but I assume that the lenses are not really supporting 22 MP and that the smaller pixels are more noisy. If that's the case, then Canon might have hit a wall and the only way up will be MF digital.



This reminds me of what is called 'empty magnification' in microscopy - where the NA (numerical aperture) of the objective determines resolution. Adding more powerful eyepieces can increase the magnification but not the resolution.
Tom




Sep 21, 2006 at 01:08 AM
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marcwilson wrote:
Re the fuji S5.
From a recent article in bjp that I do not have to hand the fuji man said that the S3 was definately now finished and that whilst they were still wishing to remain in the high end dslr market no new camera woudl be shown (or even perhaps announced) at this coming photokina.


Thom Hogan, author of a whole range of Camera Guides (D50, D70, D100, D200, D1 series, D2h, D2x, S2 Pro, S3 Pro) Fujifilm will make a "development annoucement of the S5 Pro" one day before Photokina, on the 25th. Whatever that may be exactly...

The chance of him having some additional info on upcoming cameras seems pretty high, given what he has written sofar.

See http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1020&message=20041143



Sep 21, 2006 at 04:07 AM
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p.7 #8 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


http://www.pentax.co.jp/english/news/2006/200646.html

Pentax announces 3 new lenses for the K- and *ist series:

- 16-50 mm f/2.8 ED wide-angle zoom
- 50-135 mm f/2,8 ED telephoto zoom
- 60-250 mm f/4 ED super-telephoto zoom

The wide and tele to be marketed from march 2007 onwards, the super-tele "in 2007"

And they annouce the Pentax 645 Digital: An 18 mpixel medium format camera with exchangable lenses, PENTAX 645AF mount and compatible with existing smc PENTAX 645-series lenses. Expected future product upgrades will eventually bring 30 mpixel.



Sep 21, 2006 at 04:44 AM
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p.7 #9 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


I can't believe they ditched the 22mp chip...


Sep 22, 2006 at 03:41 PM
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p.7 #10 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


Well it seems the Fuji S5 is a reality minus the 16MP rumor....

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06092502fujifilms5pro.asp



Sep 25, 2006 at 02:32 AM
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Hope this hasn't been posted before:

http://www.sigma-foto.de/cms/front_content.php?client=1&lang=1&parent=14&idcat=115&idart=242

Same chip as SD14...



Sep 25, 2006 at 12:45 PM
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p.7 #12 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


I noiticed the new leaf back looks very fast.


Sep 25, 2006 at 12:51 PM
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p.7 #13 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


Nothing from Mamiya


Sep 26, 2006 at 08:52 AM
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p.7 #14 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


someone has seen zd, zd back, new zoom and 28mm lens!..nothing more yet though..

looking like hd3 vs mamiya afd/zd vs sinar/rolleih-y-6!

we need to compare 28mm lenses...shift options...and prices!!



Sep 26, 2006 at 10:07 AM
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p.7 #15 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


Paul Gardner wrote:
Nothing from Mamiya


Phase One announced a partnership with Mamiya. I don't know any more details yet.



Sep 26, 2006 at 10:52 AM
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p.7 #16 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


According to an article in Der Spiegel today about Leica, Leica is buying 51% of Sinar.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,438202,00.html

Third paragraph from the bottom.



Sep 26, 2006 at 11:01 AM
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p.7 #17 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


Have you seen the Olympus EP-1 consept pics down the bottom of this page:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/photokina2006/Olympus/



Sep 26, 2006 at 11:18 AM
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p.7 #18 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


Hasselblad has launched the H3D. Looks more and more like something from an old science fiction movie

http://www.hasselblad.se/promotion/h3d.aspx



Sep 26, 2006 at 11:24 AM
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p.7 #19 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


semmel wrote:
Hope this hasn't been posted before:

http://www.sigma-foto.de/cms/front_content.php?client=1&lang=1&parent=14&idcat=115&idart=242

Same chip as SD14...


I would be so excited about a 1.7 crop factor fixed focal length lens P&S... if it was only at least f/2.8. Sigma really blew it there.



Sep 26, 2006 at 01:00 PM
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p.7 #20 · Photokina RUMOR - Alternate


Sam Bennett wrote:
I would be so excited about a 1.7 crop factor fixed focal length lens P&S... if it was only at least f/2.8. Sigma really blew it there.


I think I could live with f/4.0, but no VF, and no hotshoe for an external one. How many cent would it have cost them to add a hotshoe? Sometimes, I wonder what goes on in people's minds



Sep 26, 2006 at 01:13 PM
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