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Archive 2006 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma

  
 
Andi Dietrich
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p.24 #1 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


the 40 is said to be inferior to the newest 50. but there where also reviews, saying it was the best of its range ever tested. so what...


Jun 05, 2006 at 01:28 PM
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p.24 #2 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


I use the 80 and 150 CF all the time with the P25. If something ain't sharp it's my fault, not the lens...I do think the next lens will be the 50 CF. I just haven't had that much luck with the 40 FLE, but I probably need more ttime with it. I've talked to others that get excellent results.


Jun 05, 2006 at 07:28 PM
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p.24 #3 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


>>>


Jun 05, 2006 at 07:29 PM
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p.24 #4 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


I've got the 40 FLE and the 50CF ( non floating front element) - the 50 is superior on my 22mp Sinar back.


Jun 06, 2006 at 03:05 AM
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p.24 #5 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


shirozina wrote:
I've got the 40 FLE and the 50CF ( non floating front element) - the 50 is superior on my 22mp Sinar back.


Right, this confirms what I have heard so far. It sounds like a 50/80/120 or 50/80/150 kit is a nice way to do some film, perhaps with the CW body style. Getting the stronger lenses then leaves the way open for a digital back later.



Jun 06, 2006 at 06:56 AM
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p.24 #6 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


Bump ... :-)

Andy



Jun 16, 2006 at 10:25 AM
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p.24 #7 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


Right, Andy thanks for bump
I was wondering where this got to!

I am being 'hounded' to upgrade my P25 to p45, yet have real concerns on the value. So far I have seen NOTHING to convince me to upgrade. All the tests are pixel peeping and I still want to holdopen the Aptus option (though with my contax I think that Phase One is better long term.

It is also a way of my saying that I have been very pleased last year and half with P25 but have shifted more to use DMR.

The big surprise for me way how well the 'zoom' even with only 10MP can work to see details.

How are others' experience holding up? Are you P25 users still quite happy also?
Regards
Victor



Jun 16, 2006 at 10:58 AM
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p.24 #8 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


here is 15 mm long view


Jun 16, 2006 at 11:00 AM
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p.24 #9 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


'zoom' to 100% quite respectable


Jun 16, 2006 at 11:00 AM
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p.24 #10 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


repeat long view to compare


Jun 16, 2006 at 11:01 AM
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p.24 #11 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


here is P25 shot


Jun 16, 2006 at 11:06 AM
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p.24 #12 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


and a similar 'zoom in'


Jun 16, 2006 at 11:07 AM
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p.24 #13 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


gogopix wrote:
How are others' experience holding up? Are you P25 users still quite happy also?



Hi Victor, I'm happy enough with my P25 and have no desire to move up to the 45, I just don't need that amount of pixels. In fact, I usually process out my P25 files at 60%, plenty big enough for most purposes and as you say 10 mp is just fine too. But it's nice to have the extra for crops or bigger files when needed.

I haven't used the DMR for work yet, just personal stuff. I also like composing the shot on the large Hasselblad screen (but I'm looking forward to receiving my Brightscreen mag viewer for the R9) and using a waist level finder and shooting tethered. So MF backs will remain my main shooting platform for the foreseeable future. If I was looking to upgrade the back I would look at the Aptus75, but I don't think the software is as good and the upgrade/trade in deals with Phase are hard to beat.

Cheers
Paul



Jun 16, 2006 at 02:59 PM
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p.24 #14 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


gogopix wrote:
Right, Andy thanks for bump
I was wondering where this got to!


My pleasure!

I'm still trying to decide whether to go for a P25 or P30 on Hassy V. I love the P45 but think it fails the value for money test. I had a brief play with P30 and P45 on my body with my lenses at a Phase One seminar the other evening and they've promised to sort me out a P25 and P30 to compare. One thing I've learned from here and my own experience is that it's the combination of lens and back that's important, not just the back in isolation.

Andy




Jun 19, 2006 at 08:42 AM
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p.24 #15 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


ajmichael wrote:
One thing I've learned from here and my own experience is that it's the combination of lens and back that's important, not just the back in isolation.

Andy


What?

Are you saying that using the P45 for a pinhole camera wouldn't produce good results?



Jun 19, 2006 at 08:59 AM
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p.24 #16 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


Dear Andy
I have tried several hasselblad lenses (V Zeiss) using the P25 and my Contax and I am well pleased. The 30mm if you can find can produce really special results
The 100 and the 180 are some of the sharpest lenses.
The Zeiss contax are great but you cannot use on the V. But you can use Hassey on Contax (actually auto meters correctly for a stop down. It just doest record correctly. And the auto focus becomes a confirmation. No special items needed since on Contax the autoexposure and autofocus (as confirmation of course) seem to just work regardless the lens . even the Hartbleis work.
Since Contax bodies are cheap and lenses are in same or better class, you coud go that route too.
I wish that Phase had made the P25 with flexible replaceable mounts rather than dedicated, but either H V series or contax seem to be greatwith the P25. I suspect as you say, it is the Zeiss lenses that work so well.

regards
Victor



Jun 19, 2006 at 09:18 AM
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p.24 #17 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


I've had some interesting conversations with the Fotocare and Calumet guys, where basically it comes down to "good glass is good glass" regardless of the capture medium. While I would love an H series or Contax, the T-Blad is holding its own quite well for what I do. Now for that Cambo wide...


Jun 19, 2006 at 11:00 AM
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p.24 #18 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


push


Jun 19, 2006 at 12:38 PM
Andi Dietrich
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p.24 #19 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


Did someone buy the Reichman DVD with his mfdb tests?


Jun 19, 2006 at 06:16 PM
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p.24 #20 · Re: MF digital backs. The dilemma


i did
still waiting for it!
Let you know when I have
regards
Victor



Jun 19, 2006 at 07:15 PM
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