I'm new to the boards and fairly semi-new to photography, but an absolute noob towards DSLR.
I've been shooting about a year with my Canon Powershot A80, very basic camera and decided it was time to bump that camera and look into a new DSLR (I'd like to be a photographer when I grow up).
I have $1,500 Canadian to spend towards a new camera, possibly a bit more.
Most people I've talked to think the D70 is an amazing entry level DSLR and is something you can really progress with. But if I can't get a hold of one, a few recomended the D70S. Just wondering what everyone thought about that.
The main point of the thread is to help find me a new DSLR.
I have a D70s bought as a back-up to D100. Now, I have a D2x. You have been warned!
The D70s is a great camera. But I haven't used Canon's entry level stuff since my EOS 620. It is amazing what it can do and some pros use them for the 1/500 flash sync speed. Excellent meter, nice ergonomics. But then I'm partial.
I went Nikon because my first SLr was the FM, then an FE. Wonderful with good glass. Also, some think Nikon consumer glass is a bit better. I would agree.
Good luck and let us know what you do.
Welcome to Fred Miranda.
The D70 is alot of "bang for the buck". Excellent features for the price, superb focusing & flash, extremely long battery life, and a great feel, not to mention great photos too. The 18-70m "kit lens" is very high quality, and is well worth it's extra price, and I think it's enough reason alone to persue the D70.
The D70 should still be easily available, although the "cheaper" models seems to be more heavily advertised lately, and with much lower quality lenses.
I transitioned from a Canon S50 to the D70, no regrets whatsoever! Just be prepared to invest a lot more in good lenses. The 18-70 kit lens is excellent, but then you'll want more... and more... and more. Then you'll need a good tripod and ballhead... then filters.... then you'll need a bag to hold it all... and then a portable storage solution.... and a flash.................................................
Well, you know they're both very similar. Larger LCD and an external flash sync socket on the D70s. Consider these two features against the price difference you get.
I feel I should warn you that there are a couple of image artifact problems with the D70 (and D70s I suppose). I have had color moire show up on some of my images, and also a checker board pattern once when using studio strobes. The Moire problem has been all over the web, but the checker board pattern surprised me and I found very few references to it on the web. Other than these two rare annoyances the camera works great for me.
You should consider what lenses you will want to have in the near future also. One brand may be better suited to your needs in this respect. Or maybe you plan on buying third party and that isn't an issue.
Keel, I have both the D70 and a D70s. I would definately recommend the D70s. The couple new features may not sound like a lot, but they do add up and I think they are worth it over the D70.
Alan Louie wrote:
I transitioned from a Canon S50 to the D70, no regrets whatsoever! Just be prepared to invest a lot more in good lenses. The 18-70 kit lens is excellent, but then you'll want more... and more... and more. Then you'll need a good tripod and ballhead... then filters.... then you'll need a bag to hold it all... and then a portable storage solution.... and a flash.................................................
Amazing how it all adds up
Can I get an Amen, Brother!?! Amen to that, solid truth.
I feel I should warn you that there are a couple of image artifact problems with the D70 (and D70s I suppose). I have had color moire show up on some of my images, and also a checker board pattern once when using studio strobes. The Moire problem has been all over the web, but the checker board pattern surprised me and I found very few references to it on the web. Other than these two rare annoyances the camera works great for me.
Christian
I used my D70 to shoot a hammocks for a brochure. As luck would have it, one particular hammock turned out to be a Moire Nightmare, rather than a Moire problem. Luckily I had my laptop available to download and observe the result while shooting. Double lucky for me, I had my 12-24 mm lens which allowed me to get a wider shot as I rotated the camera about 25-30 degrees off axis, and crop later. This virtually cured the Moire problem, Moire or less .
I'm new to the boards and fairly semi-new to photography, but an absolute noob towards DSLR.
I've been shooting about a year with my Canon Powershot A80, very basic camera and decided it was time to bump that camera and look into a new DSLR (I'd like to be a photographer when I grow up).
I have $1,500 Canadian to spend towards a new camera, possibly a bit more.
Most people I've talked to think the D70 is an amazing entry level DSLR and is something you can really progress with. But if I can't get a hold of one, a few recomended the D70S. Just wondering what everyone thought about that.
The main point of the thread is to help find me a new DSLR.
I have a D70 and think it's a very good entry level camera in nearly all respects. I would also recommend checking out the Canon XT.
As far as the D70/70s goes I won't list the 'goods' (too many) ......... but the 'bads' (IMHO) are:
1) can only save JPEG basic with RAW: This is a biggie and really unforgivable!
2) modest "handling speed". Decent speed but somewhat pathetic compared to the D2 series.
I've had a D70 since January and although it's my first camera and I don't have anything to compare it to, I have learned a lot with it. Can't go wrong w' a D70.
I havent been on much lately....but I have had my D70 for about 8 months now and I love it. I am getting back to take some decent amount of pictures and stuff. I would definitely recommend the D70 or the D70s and I would agree with sl1200mk4 in getting the 18-70 mm lens...excellent piece of glass for the money.
Hmmm I have no issues with the jpg basic + raw. If i'm shooting raw, I like to save space but still like a quick jpg to 'preview' faster than a raw on my computer (especially when dealing with windows thumbnails to quick find 'good' pictures)
If I like the jpg basic, i'm going to be processing the raw anyways, so why do I need the higher quality jpg? If I want just a jpg, i'll switch it to jpg and skip the raw
2) modest "handling speed". Decent speed but somewhat pathetic compared to the D2 series.
Now thats just unreasonable. Why .... assuming one being sane, why would someone even begin to compare a camera worth maybe several hundred dollars to that of one that is thousands.
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