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EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Has anyone owned both of these lenses and compared how they do on the R5 or R5MKII? Just picked up the MKII and the converter works well but am interested in the RF version of the 100mm Macro if it's an improvement over the EF version.

Sep 13, 2024 at 02:03 PM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

I've owned both and used them on an R5. The RF lens goes to 1.4x life-size and the AF is a bit better, if you even use AF for macro. Both are razor sharp, so I wouldn't think IQ should be a deciding factor. I upgraded more because I didn't want to worry about having to remember to bring an adapter with me. I'm very forgetful!

Sep 13, 2024 at 04:22 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Do you mean the L version of the EF or the not L? I have owned both the non L EF and the RF. They are both sharp but the EF have strange bokeh when backlight of grass and similar. The RF has a very nice bokeh.

Sep 14, 2024 at 10:57 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Both the L version is what I meant. I have the EF and ef-rf adapter but was wondering if anyone sees an advantage to the RF version(besides not needing the adapter)

Sep 14, 2024 at 12:06 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Sep 14, 2024 at 12:42 PM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Macro work. I have had the ef 100mm for years but just got my first R series camera. Trying to find out if it's worth switching out the ef for the rf. If the rf is noticibly better, I would make the switch as it avoids using the converter and the added magnification, although not huge, could make a difference.

Sep 14, 2024 at 12:45 PM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

The advantage of the RF 100 2.8L over the prior version depends on the individual, but I can say the basic IQ is about the same. For me, the biggest advantage of the RF version is the Nano USM motor: smoother and quieter for video, faster at servo tracking and actually works reliably for focusing macro subjects. Second, the integration of IS and IBIS is better with the RF lens. I don't need to focus past 1:1 much, but 1.4X life size is nice a few times I used it. Finally, not a fan of those dad burn adapters.

Sep 14, 2024 at 12:47 PM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Gochugogi wrote:
The advantage of the RF 100 2.8L over the prior version depends on the individual, but I can say the basic IQ is about the same. For me, the biggest advantage of the RF version is the Nano USM motor: smoother and quieter for video, faster at servo tracking and actually works reliably for focusing macro subjects. Second, the integration of IS and IBIS is better with the RF lens. I don't need to focus past 1:1 much, but 1.4X life size is nice a few times I used it. Finally, not a fan of those dad burn adapters.

Thank you!

Sep 14, 2024 at 01:30 PM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Has anyone actually experienced focus shift with the RF 100 macro ?
I’ve read a review the past that the reviewer had focus issues which was attributed to focus shift t
Also read online that Canon's engineers have acknowledged that the RF 100/2.8 exhibits focus shift as a necessary design compromise for achieving 1.4x magnification

Sep 16, 2024 at 11:07 AM

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Sep 16, 2024 at 12:18 PM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

I stayed with the EF L-version simply because I like the tripod ring. When I'm shooting on a tripod, I like being able to rotate the camera precisely, which the ring lets me do. I was disappointed that Canon chose not to do this for the RF lens. For me, being able to compose well is more important than the extra .25X magnification the RF version allows.

The EF lens is so darn good that the RF just doesn't grab me. However I also have the EF 180L Macro and it's my go-to macro lens in the field. I prefer its longer working distance and Extender compatibility despite it's bigger size and weight. I wish Canon would release a serious update for it, but that doesn't seem to be in the tea leaves.

Sep 16, 2024 at 12:27 PM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

I shot a bunch with the EF version this weekend. At a distance, it was wble to focus track on my running gsd's eye really well. Amazing how many in focus images there were. Up close, the focus struggles more on the R5MKII than on my 1DxIII. I have ordered the RF version so I can compare them both side by side and will keep the one that I feel does a better job for my needs. I will say the files from the R5MKII are pretty damn amazing and the AF is incredible. I also shot with a Sigma 60-600mm with ef 2x converter hand held and the af worked really well. Something I could never do with the 1DxMKIII or any other previous Canon model.

Sep 16, 2024 at 12:45 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Sep 16, 2024 at 12:52 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

I just got the EF 100L and using it on my R7 has been great. I compared both (online) for a few weeks before deciding the EF would work just fine for me, and in some ways is better IMO. I like the focus ring that is an actual focus ring, so i can make manual adjustments without power applied to it.

Sep 16, 2024 at 06:00 PM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

350lcpete wrote:
Has anyone actually experienced focus shift with the RF 100 macro ?
I’ve read a review the past that the reviewer had focus issues which was attributed to focus shift t
Also read online that Canon's engineers have acknowledged that the RF 100/2.8 exhibits focus shift as a necessary design compromise for achieving 1.4x magnification

I have never felt like 'Focus Shift' has been a problem with the RF Macro. It may do it, but I don't shoot in a way to makes it a problem. That said, I don't do focus stacks, which is where I would assume is the biggest problem for a lens that shifts.

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rgold1963 wrote:
I shot a bunch with the EF version this weekend. At a distance, it was able to focus track on my running gsd's eye really well. Amazing how many in focus images there were. Up close, the focus struggles more on the R5MKII than on my 1DxIII. I have ordered the RF version so I can compare them both side by side and will keep the one that I feel does a better job for my needs. I will say the files from the R5MKII are pretty damn amazing and the AF is incredible. I also shot with a Sigma...Show more →

I think you'll find that the RF version is a step up. I did. I really liked the EF non L version, but feel like it shows its age in use. I'm not sure if there was a little bit of uncorrected CA, but the RF version just seems better. Overall, the images just have an improved richness. One difference, I found that I never noticed the exposure drop off on the EF lens at close focusing, but it is super pronounced on the RF lens. Again, not sure if that was simply me being oblivious, or if the EF just managed it better and fell off less (which is likely the case being x1 vs x1.4 magnification). Like it was said before, the bokeh on the RF seemed a tick better. Everything seemed to fall off a little bit smoother. I feel like both AF'ed fairly well at really close distances, however that might be bias from memory. Personally, I'm team RF for the lenses in question, however I've never touched the EF L Macro, so that may be on another level.

As far as contrasting the differences in the newer cameras and the 1DX III, you won't miss anything but the battery life and the extreme de-focus performance. Even the R50 is going to run circles around the 1DX III in terms of AF. I find that the AF with TCs on big f/4's, are almost as good as the lens bare. Not a lot of AF performance drop off (if any), unlike the DSLRs.

Sep 16, 2024 at 06:03 PM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Does a small amount of focus shift really matter with today's software? Helicon Focus and even Photoshop do a great job of aligning and stacking regardless.

Edited on Sep 16, 2024 at 06:26 PM · View previous versions

Sep 16, 2024 at 06:26 PM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Mike Jacks0n wrote:
I think you'll find that the RF version is a step up. I did. I really liked the EF non L version, but feel like it shows its age in use. I'm not sure if there was a little bit of uncorrected CA, but the RF version just seems better.

The EF non-L is a 24-year old lens, and I don't think the optics were even updated when USM was added, so in reality it's probably a 1990 design. Of course the RF is a step up from that.

Comparing the RF Macro to the EF-L is even a stretch, as there's a 10+ year gap between the two and a lot has changed since then.

Sep 16, 2024 at 06:26 PM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

I will know for sure later this week. RF version shows up Wednesday. Brand new from B&H using the Payboo card got it to me for $945. Didn't realize that Payboo was knocking off another $50 for some promotion this week.

Sep 16, 2024 at 07:09 PM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

Mike Jacks0n wrote:
I think you'll find that the RF version is a step up. I did. I really liked the EF non L version, but feel like it shows its age in use. I'm not sure if there was a little bit of uncorrected CA, but the RF version just seems better.

The EF L Macro had some horrendous LoCA. Mitigated through the typical measures, but in highly contrasting scenes... it'd never go away.

Sep 16, 2024 at 09:24 PM

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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · EF100MM Macro + Converter vs RF100mm Macro on R5MKII

rgold1963 wrote:
Has anyone owned both of these lenses and compared how they do on the R5 or R5MKII? Just picked up the MKII and the converter works well but am interested in the RF version of the 100mm Macro if it's an improvement over the EF version.

There's a tidbit I found that may overlap enough to be of interest - a video from 2 years ago where the Canon explorer of light lady Vanessa Joy unpacks her wedding kit. At recording, she owned the Canon R5. Even with all the options available to her, she uses the older Canon EF 100mm 2.8 L macro lens plus the Canon EF 135mm 2.0 L ..... She was using an RF 85mm 1.2 L and maybe still owns it, but her more recent video for a wedding shows she morphed to the RF 28-70mm 2.0 L to set aside the 3 primes (35, 50, 85), while still retaining the EF 100mm 2.8 L macro and EF 135mm L.

I've been reviewing 100mm macro lens stuff for weeks and her videos were a big part of why I picked the EF 100mm macro to use on my RF since I already have a couple adapters for Tamron zooms.

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