Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ?

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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ?

Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ? Or which most closely replaces it?

I got lots of use out of a couple R bodies, but sold for the control layout of the R6, then R5 to go with that. But for stills photography and portraits, I thought the R was fantastic. Also used my 5DSR and loved the camera too. It seems that the R5 is a close replacment for the 5DS or 5DSR.

For those who have used the R6 ii is its sensor size close enough to that of the EOS R to make the difference a nothing burger?

Looking at launch prices, I suppose the R6 ii and EOS R were very close.

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ?

What do you specifically like about the Canon EOS R body, that you suspect is done better by newer Canon R bodies?

Sep 12, 2024 at 02:34 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ?

I went with a new R6II instead of a used R5 and wish I went with the R5. The R6II is good but not that much different than my old 6D image wise and not as good as the Sony A7RIII that I came from. Handling and AF is way better but most of the time I don't need it. I haven't used the R but I think it's sensor may have been a good fit for the R6 and then R6II would be even a better upgrade over the R6.

Sep 12, 2024 at 07:18 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ?

campy wrote:
I went with a new R6II instead of a used R5 and wish I went with the R5. The R6II is good but not that much different than my old 6D image wise and not as good as the Sony A7RIII that I came from. Handling and AF is way better but most of the time I don't need it. I haven't used the R but I think it's sensor may have been a good fit for the R6 and then R6II would be even a better upgrade over the R6.

The R's sensor (5DIV sensor) is significantly slower in readout than the R6 sensor (which is a 1D X III sensor lightly tweaked). In fact the R's slow (~80ms) readout is over 4 times slower than the R6's 19ms, and even worse compared to the 14.5ms readout of the R6II.

The A7RIII's readout is ~30ms, much better than the R, but slower than the R6II by a large margin.

The R5 is a bit slower than the R6II at ~16ms. If you miss the resolution of the A7RIII, then the R5 is definitely the body you want.

Sep 12, 2024 at 08:00 AM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ?

sirimiri wrote:
What do you specifically like about the Canon EOS R body, that you suspect is done better by newer Canon R bodies?

I didn't prefer the EOS R body. That's why controls are mentioned in the OP.

It's the sensor size that I liked, while providing good photos.

I was thinking more toward sensor size, print sizes, and speed of files being processed.

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Sep 12, 2024 at 09:36 AM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ?

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Sep 12, 2024 at 09:45 AM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ?

mdvaden wrote:
Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ? Or which most closely replaces it?

I got lots of use out of a couple R bodies, but sold for the control layout of the R6, then R5 to go with that. But for stills photography and portraits, I thought the R was fantastic. Also used my 5DSR and loved the camera too. It seems that the R5 is a close replacment for the 5DS or 5DSR.

For those who have used the R6 ii is its sensor size close enough to that of the EOS R to make the difference...Show more →

For portraits with good light [or landscape on a tripod] - there is nothing better than the 5DSR. The only downside of 5DSR is that you have large files that you are dealing with that you don't need if you don't have to crop. The big gain with 5DSR is that you can crop which makes it better than the R6II or any lower mpx body.

For stills - by stills I am presuming you mean not overly moving, the R is good enough if you fill the frame in good light or are not shooting action. If you are shooting action, I would recommend the R8 as the replacement. Excellent 4k, excellent a/f, excellent fps - but no IBIS and 24mpx. The IBIS is handy if you don't have good light or IS in your lens. Upgrading from there I would recommend a used r5. Because now the prices are going to be reasonable and 45mpx (R5) is better than 24mpx (R6ii)

The R6II is a better sensor than R. But only if you are shooting challenging light with more dynamic range and need for a/f in low light. The R8 $1300, has the same sensor as R6II but way cheaper. The R6ii $2000 is better than R8 for ibis and 2nd slot for saving, but nothing else.. At $2800 new , the R5 is a fantastic camera but 45mpx bigger files might be your balk.

So I would advise:
- No action or poor lighting or cropping - stick to what you have - 5DSR and R is good enough - $0
- Cropping lots with action - go for the R5 - $2800 new, $2500 ?refurbished, $2100 ? used.
- Don't crop a lot, but want to get a/f, fps, great 4k, but only use it sparingly - get the R8 - $1300 [this would be the cheapest way that complements your 5DSR]
- Want 2nd card slot, and a general do everything camera - but want to stick to 24mpx - get the R6ii. $2000 new.

Sep 12, 2024 at 10:20 AM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ?

Sensor size is the same on these, if you mean pixels and resolution 24 to 30mp shouldn't be much, probably 10-15% less pixels in each direction going to 24mp. R6II probably has a lot of advantages which doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the R if it's doing well for you.

You seemed to like the R maybe just get another

Sep 12, 2024 at 12:48 PM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Does any Canon mirrorless really replace the EOS R ?

The R was my first FF mirrorless and I still shoot with it regularly along side the R62 and R7. While the two newer cameras whip it silly in terms of AF and video, I prefer the feel of the R in my hands and, unlike many, like the physical controls, especially the touch bar. Not a fan of the awkward joysticks on the other cameras.

The R CMOS is excellent but of course the R62 is even better except for size. I find 30MP the ideal resolution with just enough room to crop landscapes without being awkwardly huge. 24MP on the R62 doesn't have much room to spare for cropping and I tend to use it mostly for video on my YouTube channel.

Sep 13, 2024 at 12:05 PM


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