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A few months ago I posted a "complaint" that I don't like the A9III because it produces way too many keepers and it's a real pain to pick the best image out of a sequence because every single image in the sequence is perfectly sharp. Of course the "complaint" is a joke, or is it? Yesterday I finally found time to go through 13k+ photos captured during my older daughter's lacrosse games that took place in April. I had to spend a few hours narrowing down the image list to something usable.

Here's what I got... and thanks for looking!
Sep 04, 2024 at 12:18 AM
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Great looking pics! Nothing quite has that pop like a 400mm f2.8

The A9III is a great camera. But one needs to have even greater shutter discipline when using it or that shot count can get away from you real quick 😄
Sep 04, 2024 at 12:49 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · A9III + 400/2.8 + Girls Lacrosse [image heavy]


Nice set! Did you use pre-capture in any of these?
Sep 04, 2024 at 07:45 AM
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Thank you guys!

robert614 wrote:
Great looking pics! Nothing quite has that pop like a 400mm f2.8


It does pop if the light is right. It's a serious portrait lens that delivers enormous amounts of compression due to the subject distance. Long time ago I actually tried it for a regular "staged" photo shoot, but you have to have some sort of walkie-talkie to communicate to your subject


robert614 wrote:
The A9III is a great camera. But one needs to have even greater shutter discipline when using it or that shot count can get away from you real quick 😄


hiepphotog wrote:
Nice set! Did you use pre-capture in any of these?

Yes, I did use pre-capture and it helped me a few times when I wasn't fast enough to press the shutter. It's basically like traveling back in time for just 0.5s. I will probably reduce it to 0.3s, but it's definitely worth keeping it on, and it's very helpful. Yes, it produces some overhead, but to me it's better not to miss "that" moment than save some storage space. I have plenty of cheap mechanical storage - 12 helium HDDs in 3 spans (the spans were added at different times) totaling 213TB. I will add another 4-drive span when I overgrow this one


Sep 04, 2024 at 08:43 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · A9III + 400/2.8 + Girls Lacrosse [image heavy]


Nice shooting, don't girls wear shoulder protection?
Sep 04, 2024 at 10:37 AM
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mogul wrote:
Nice shooting, don't girls wear shoulder protection?

They are not supposed to hit each other, it would be an offense
Only goggles and mouth guards, no other protection.
Sep 04, 2024 at 10:44 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · A9III + 400/2.8 + Girls Lacrosse [image heavy]


Why can't I see anything? All I see are tiny icons.
Sep 04, 2024 at 10:58 AM
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Nice shots but I would add just a touch of contrast and lighten slightly to get more pop in the images.


Sep 04, 2024 at 11:03 AM
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Lt.Deadeye wrote:
Why can't I see anything? All I see are tiny icons.

That's odd. Could be my server. What browser are you using? Does refresh (ctrl+R or cmd+R) help?
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · A9III + 400/2.8 + Girls Lacrosse [image heavy]


Yes, it does suck to throw away so many keepers. Years ago we were looking for a good one or two from a series of shots. Now, were are looking for one or two of the best from a bunch of what used to be keepers knowing the rest of them won't see the light of day outside of the office. Nice job and I love the images just as they are. My only small critique would be to shoot a few really tight for variety, but it's a small nit. Obviously, you've got this style down. And shooting your daughter's team never gets old. At least it was that way for me when my daughter played soccer. And that good time is fleeting. Enjoy.


Sep 04, 2024 at 12:46 PM
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Great set.
I shoot boys lacrosse and it’s hard to get meaningful action, eyes, and facial expressions (helmets on).
I shoot with a lowly a9II so no precapture and “only” 20fps. One day I’ll upgrade to a9III. Probably when the IV is released. 😆 Still, as it is, I throw away hundreds of keepers a game. Try to distill the game down to about 3-4 good pics per boy.




Sep 04, 2024 at 12:53 PM
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timgangloff wrote:
Yes, it does suck to throw away so many keepers. Years ago we were looking for a good one or two from a series of shots. Now, were are looking for one or two of the best from a bunch of what used to be keepers knowing the rest of them won't see the light of day outside of the office. Nice job and I love the images just as they are. My only small critique would be to shoot a few really tight for variety, but it's a small nit. Obviously, you've got this style down. And shooting your...Show more →

Thank you Tim! I do have tight shots as well (half body), but it would be way too much to post all stuff that I like in one thread
https://franklinsportsphoto.com/gallery/3d09488d-e96d-40d9-b289-5a8849a518e5


GMPhotography wrote:
Nice shots but I would add just a touch of contrast and lighten slightly to get more pop in the images.

Thank you for the suggestion! I just want them to look natural and not overdone. Would you mind taking a random image from my set and processing it to your taste so I could see what you meant?
Sep 04, 2024 at 03:27 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · A9III + 400/2.8 + Girls Lacrosse [image heavy]


Top image is your posted image and second is a little fix with adding contrast and lightening slightly
Sep 04, 2024 at 06:46 PM
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See it pops a little more, your shooting in indirect light so it tends to go soft looking. This just jumps a touch more
Sep 04, 2024 at 06:48 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
See it pops a little more, your shooting in indirect light so it tends to go soft looking. This just jumps a touch more

It does pop, I like it, thank you!
Just one question - is it ok that certain areas are super bright, like plain white? I usually just select a particular person and add +10..20 "White" in LR. Sometimes the whole person, sometimes just skin (if their clothes have bright white already). Basically trying to keep the super bright areas under control, since not all consumer monitors would reproduce these bright colors accurately. I also noticed that contrast changes background, i.e. it becomes less smooth and more distractive, so normally I don't go over +10..15. But pop is pop! I know LR also offers portrait presets where they use selective (person mask) Clarity and Dehaze along with White and Contrast to increase pop. Remember time when only Zeiss could deliver pop?


Sep 04, 2024 at 07:10 PM
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Well we try to keep detail in the whites but if it’s a small area it may not hurt. You can adjust the highlights down as well.


Sep 04, 2024 at 09:05 PM
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Great shots! And you had good overcast which to me gives you more ability to add punch to the shots like Guy was mentioning above. My daughter does club & school lacrosse, so can appreciate the effort for sure. My setup is an A1 & 70-200 2.8II, which unfortunately often requires a 1.4 or 2xTC depending on where I'm at around the field.

Not sure I could justify a 400 2.8, but possibly the 300GM. Your shots have me in the mood to go shopping.


Sep 05, 2024 at 04:15 PM
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gocolts wrote:
Great shots! And you had good overcast which to me gives you more ability to add punch to the shots like Guy was mentioning above. My daughter does club & school lacrosse, so can appreciate the effort for sure. My setup is an A1 & 70-200 2.8II, which unfortunately often requires a 1.4 or 2xTC depending on where I'm at around the field.

Not sure I could justify a 400 2.8, but possibly the 300GM. Your shots have me in the mood to go shopping.

Ha-ha thanks! I didn't know people like this "punch" a lot When I started photography I also liked to push contrast to the limit, but my wife knocked that contrasty/punchy look out of me quickly. She explained that males and females have slightly different color perception (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21675035/), which partially involves contrast because it's compressing the available color range. That particular sample may benefit from a careful push, like +20 White, but then the t-shirt "4" and the goal keeper's helmet should be muted down. On the "punchy" photo the #4 is not the subject, but she became ultra bright, and she's attracting much more attention than the in-focus subjects. You can see it by defocusing your vision and looking at the picture again. Your eyes stop on the super white t-shirt first, and only then you start noticing the other people in the frame.

I used to shoot the A1, but it was a little frustrating with lacrosse. Probably due to goggles or maybe just overall human body recognition. I shot the A1 and A9III side by side in March, and after that I pretty much stopped using the A1, and sold it in a month. Give the A9III a try and you'll be surprised how good its AF is.


Sep 05, 2024 at 05:10 PM







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