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p.3 #1 · p.3 #1 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


Mitch Alland wrote:
I like the DR Summicron, which is essentially the same lens:



+1. Yes! Love the lens and its bokeh - main obstacle is that it cannot be used at infinity on many digital M cameras including my M 240-series based ones without filing off some part of the lens focus thread. I am not willing to do the latter and would prefer to keep the lens in its original condition. I currently use this lens only at MFD with goggles on my digital M cameras and the 50/2 Vers. V for infinity. Unfortunately I have to carry two lenses with the same focal length.



Aug 23, 2024 at 07:10 AM
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retrofocus wrote:
+1. Yes! Love the lens and its bokeh - main obstacle is that it cannot be used at infinity on many digital M cameras...


Yes, I understand but don't have a collector's feeling for lenses or cameras, to the point of selling a IIIc, ages ago, to finance the purchase of a Nikon F. I also did something stupid with my first DR Summicron-50 — having a cam removed so that I could use it on the M9 I had at the time, rendering it unusable with the goggles for the close-up range, the filing-down caper being unknown at the time. Luckily, I got a second one at a low price, which I gently filed down to use both with the goggles and at infinity on the M10 that I have now.



Aug 23, 2024 at 07:50 PM
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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


Re. the 7A 50 1.1 - it focuses down to .7m


Aug 26, 2024 at 01:52 AM
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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


Apart from all the other great recommendations (a lot of which I own) I would recommend the Pentax 50mm 1.2, doesnt seem to come up in discussions much.
Great portrait lens, a bit soft at 1.2, but at 1.4 (not marked as such but it is a click in between 1.2 and 2) it has a very nice rendering style and lovely bokeh (both subjective of course.
Also the Summicron 50 (v5).



Aug 26, 2024 at 08:46 AM
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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


Which model would this be?

kiaora wrote:
Personally, I'd love to shoot portraiture on the LLL Cooke remake now.





Aug 26, 2024 at 04:21 PM
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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


Light Lens Lab 50mm f/2 Rigid-Cooke Speed Panchro-II (M-Mount). Many forum members bought them. EDITED thanks. It was a release a limited release, but a subsequent batch/es was made IIRC

Edited on Aug 27, 2024 at 02:55 PM · View previous versions



Aug 26, 2024 at 04:26 PM
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p.3 #7 · p.3 #7 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


I am the opposite from you on these two.
I like the Minolta 58/1.2 better, as it renders much more warmer.

The Konica Hexanon 57/1.2 is a lot cooler, from my feeble memory.
Reminds me of the colors from the Mamiya 645s, notably, the Mamiya 120/f4 Macro.
Hmm, I will have to dig this out and try again.

RE: Canon FL 58/1.2
Yes, I remember this has a lot of character.
Need to dig this one out too.

Can now use these these on my new Z8 kit, have all the adapters, should be fun.

JohnJ wrote:
Konica Hexanon 57/1.2 is always good, and probably my preferred vintage fast 50 for people pics. Sharp enough across most of the frame wide open in the areas where you might position a subjects eyes. I prefer the Hexanon to the Minlota 58/1.2 which is similar but less 'interesting' in it's rendering. I find the Minolta doesn't really offer much and I hardly ever use it, but it doesn't have the yellow cast of the Konica.

Canon FL 58/1.2, not very sharp wide open, great for people pics, very 'painterly' (ie lots of aberrations).

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Aug 26, 2024 at 04:31 PM
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kiaora wrote:
Light Lens Lab 50mm f/2 Rigid-Cooke Speed Panchro-II (M-Mount). It was one of, or the first release from LLL. Many forum members bought them. It was a limited release, but a subsequent batch was made IIRC.


LLL had the 35mm 8-element and 50mm f/2 Elcan in production long before the Speed Panchro II. They have plenty of all these lenses in stock at Popflash, including some variants.



Aug 27, 2024 at 02:33 PM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
I find that rarely shoot longer than 50 mm anymore...



I had a crazy thought. Instead of just searching for a new 50-60mm portrait lens, what about also trying a new camera body for your existing lenses so that you have a different shooting experience?

My Zeiss C/Y lenses always looked good on my previous digital bodies, but the Minoltas, particularly the 58 1.2 and 50 1.2, were always a little soft wide open. They are both noticeably sharper wide open on the SL3 – enough to call them "sharp" wide open, which I never would have before. I'm guessing it's the high resolution combined with the SL3 cover glass? Thinking out loud that since Leica made the M11 cover glass thinner versus the M10 series, it stands to reason they may have gone a little bit thinner with the SL3 versus the SL2/SL2-S.

The Zf would also provide a different shooting experience. Only downside to the Zf is the rather heavy-handed AA filter that obliterates pixel level aliasing – a good thing because it avoids aliasing, and also a bad thing because you loose that AA-free look at the pixel level.

What about a Sony body you don't already have?

Maybe you have a ton of different camera bodies already. Maybe try shooting film with the bodies that go with each of the old lenses? Just thinking of alternative ways of getting back that desire to shoot 50mm other than continuing to try new lenses.



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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


Good info, I think I have seen this posted before?
Anywho, now play with all these boxes of old lenses and my new Z8.

highdesertmesa wrote:
I had a crazy thought. Instead of just searching for a new 50-60mm portrait lens, what about also trying a new camera body for your existing lenses so that you have a different shooting experience?

My Zeiss C/Y lenses always looked good on my previous digital bodies, but the Minoltas, particularly the 58 1.2 and 50 1.2, were always a little soft wide open. They are both noticeably sharper wide open on the SL3 – enough to call them "sharp" wide open, which I never would have before. I'm guessing it's the high resolution combined with the SL3 cover glass?
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Aug 27, 2024 at 04:25 PM
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nehemiahphoto wrote:
Can be ancient but new, AF or MF, DSLR or RF or ILC. Will be shooting on a7x line.

Like many here, I own bunches of primes near 50mm, including Summilux 50, Elmar 50/3.5 LTM, CZ 50/1.4 C/Y, EF 50/1.4, Yashica 50/1.4 ML, 55/2.8 ML Macro. For portrait, I prefer something lighter, slower and with some character, while avoiding stuff with obnoxious rendition (ni-sen boke-aji, insane field curvature, radioactive glow, anything branded Lomo, etc).

Except if the situation requires AF, the unquestioned #1 choice is my Elmar 50/2.8 circa 1960:



A7ii, Elmar wide open. Oh, yeah, the collapsible appearance is not for show.



Aug 27, 2024 at 07:04 PM
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highdesertmesa wrote:
I had a crazy thought. Instead of just searching for a new 50-60mm portrait lens, what about also trying a new camera body for your existing lenses so that you have a different shooting experience?

My Zeiss C/Y lenses always looked good on my previous digital bodies, but the Minoltas, particularly the 58 1.2 and 50 1.2, were always a little soft wide open. They are both noticeably sharper wide open on the SL3 – enough to call them "sharp" wide open, which I never would have before. I'm guessing it's the high resolution combined with the SL3 cover glass?
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That is a crazy thought James--and a spendier one! I do like where you mind is at though, try a new approach is good rather just swap lenses. Some lenses are really quite different depending on the body--the ZM 50/1.5 comes to mind. Focus shift fun on RF (film or digital), lots of induced FC on stock Sony, absolute magic on a modded Sony. I often like my CV's very much on film, shooting Portra specifically, and prefer less less on digital.

I am not too interested in running another new digital system--I just got out of Panasonic/L-mount after some video stuff. As it is right now, I have a film RF (Ikon), Sony stock for AF and then a modded Sony a7rII for RF. I've shot most Sony's at this point, barring the newest generations. I am really a pretty simple shooter at this point, and 120fps and A1 capabilities do nothing for me. IQ hasn't really changed much. I am not too sensitive to AA filters, though I prefer there to be none. I can deal with either side of the benefits.

And sometimes I am tempted to try the new Nikon Z's, though their size puts me off. I am getting old--I always want lenses to be softer and bodies to maintain their old sizes

After reading this thread and doing some research, I am leaning towards finding a Canon 50/1.2 LTM, Nikon 58/1.4 and Hexanon 57/1.2. The latter two I am interested in the images but not excited about the size.

@rico Noted and interesting!

@widi5006 I have tried and enjoyed this lens.

@kiaora This lens does look distinctive--I like the look.



Aug 30, 2024 at 08:17 PM
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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


nehemiahphoto wrote:
... IQ hasn't really changed much.
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I would say that should be a clue.




Aug 31, 2024 at 07:25 AM
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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


Nikkor AI 50/1.4 (@ f/2-f/2.8). Little expense and lots of result.


Aug 31, 2024 at 08:17 AM
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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


Fred Miranda wrote:
And your subjects better have flawless skin.


This is exactly what I was gonna chime in with lol




Sep 04, 2024 at 09:08 PM
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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


My wacky suggestion is the Schneider Xenon FF 50 T2.1 cine lens. Heavy, and you've gotta have a follow focus or gloves because it only has geared focus. Nice focus falloff and bokeh with a 14 blade aperture.


Sep 04, 2024 at 09:14 PM
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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · Recommend me a 50mm - 60mm portrait lens


Voigtlander 58mm f1.4 SL, Very gentle rendering wide open with painterly bokeh, sharp stop down, close focus to 45cm.

Summarit 50mm f1.5, ultra vintage lens with full loads of characters, swirly bokeh,low contrast,leica glow, backlit flare, such unique lens for portraits, especially on black and white.

Voigtlander 50mm f1.5 II, compact & potable, smooth swirly bokeh, with nice balance between sharpness and spherical aberration for portrait.

Voigtlander 50mm f1.2 nokton, my choice if I can only own 1 50mm lens.



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