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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Post-processing 101 course?


Is there any such resource FM memebers can recommend? Looking to get to...beginner pro proficiency with the standard workload (if there is one). It seems to behoove me to start figuring out a minimally viable post processing workflow sooner rather than later. Might someone just share the lay of the land? Is LR the go-to?

Presume I'm aiming to go pro within the next 5 years. What tool or tool suite should I start learning now?




Jul 08, 2024 at 11:09 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Post-processing 101 course?


Well I have been using Photoshop for about 25 years, since when it was on floppy disks.

I will bet it has more free tutorials than any other program.

https://creativecloud.adobe.com/learn/app/photoshop



Jul 08, 2024 at 11:41 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Post-processing 101 course?


Starting from nothing, I think you should avoid Photoshop since it is very old, and a lot of things are done the way they are for historical reasons rather than logic. (At least that was the case when I stopped updating it 3 years ago.) Affinity Photo is an equivalent bitmap editor whose interface is more recent and more logical, and for which there is a full set of YouTube tutorials from its publisher, Serif.

However, when starting out you probably won’t need to use a bitmap editor, because recent raw converters can do most of the things bitmap editors used to be needed for. These are programs like Adobe Lightroom Classic, Capture One and DxO PhotoLab (or whatever they renamed it to this month). I personally find Capture One somewhat illogical in places (again, for historical reasons), but it’s the one I use. DxO, when last I looked, doesn’t manage your library of images in a database like the other two. I found Capture One and DxO fairly easy to learn; I never tried Lightroom Classic.



Jul 09, 2024 at 03:32 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Post-processing 101 course?


Lots of choices and preferences for good reasons. Whatever you decide to look at I'd recommend downloading the trial version to test. Even with equivalent features you might find one interface suits you better.

The Photoshop + Lightroom Classic package at $10/month is both good value and feature packed. It's what I've stuck with or come back to over the decades. Lightroom and Photoshop ACR (for editing raw files before you go into the main PS editor) are equivalent for editing now and if you want to be creative Photoshop allows a ton of flexibility with layers not offered in LRC. Other software offers similar controls though. LRC offers a database for your images/library.

Some LRC/PS tutorial channels to check out if you go that route. The new weekly videos they post are generally only any good if you have a solid understanding of the programs so I'd suggest looking at/for their kind of 101 LRC or PS editing offerings to give you a leg up.

Julieanne Kost has started a series of short how-to videos for LRC. Not how to process, but how to manage images in LRC. If you go with LRC I highly recommend checking these out before using it much, as it may well prevent you making some basic mistakes in the database and help manage your library.

https://jkost.com/blog/

https://www.youtube.com/@PiXimperfect

https://www.youtube.com/@phlearn
https://www.youtube.com/@phlearn/playlists

https://www.youtube.com/@PhotoshopTrainingChannel

https://www.youtube.com/@photoshopcafe









Jul 09, 2024 at 04:45 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Post-processing 101 course?


If you're looking for something with a classroom type format, and are willing to spend a little bit of money, I'd suggest creativelive.com. Most of the classes have downloadable material as well as images so you can work on things as the class is being taught. I've had their membership for a couple of years now and really like the content they offer. I think the cost is around $120 for the year.


Jul 09, 2024 at 07:26 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Post-processing 101 course?


Thank you all for your suggestions. Where might I start with an overview of a standard workflow? I'm seeing mention of processing prior to photoshop (or equivalent) process so I feel like I'm missing even what the main branches of the major workflows are. Like what's the scope of lightroom vs scope of photos hop (equivalent) as an example. I'm thinking this is basic basic. So maybe I'm looking for post processing AP vs 101.


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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Post-processing 101 course?


melcat wrote:
Starting from nothing, I think you should avoid Photoshop since it is very old, and a lot of things are done the way they are for historical reasons rather than logic. (At least that was the case when I stopped updating it 3 years ago.)


Well maybe it is not the same as it was three years ago.

https://www.adobe.com/ca/products/photoshop/features.html




Jul 10, 2024 at 01:20 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Post-processing 101 course?


There are two general types of programs available:

A RAW converter like Lightroom and DXO Photolab allows you to adjust contrast, exposure, raise and lower highlights and shadows, correct and/or adjust colors, highlight certain tones, etc. Many of these programs have additional features that can remove noise, sharpen, correct lens distortions, and adjust geometry. Once you’re satisfied, you can export the image into a variety of formats like jpg and png. If you’re just starting out - a RAW converter is probably all you’ll need. There are a lot of accomplished photographers that only use RAW converters. Start here.

Image editors like Photoshop and Affinity Photo allow you to go a lot further with your edits. You can seamlessly merge multiple photos, add text and other graphics to images, wholesale warp/resize/replace entire aspects of the photo, etc. Imagine that you took some product photos of watches, and your assignment was to make it look like Harrison Ford was wearing one. That’s something you’d do in a photo editor. Say you have a photo of you and your family on vacation, and you wanted to add Harrison Ford… wearing that watch… shaking your hand. Photo editor to the rescue.


My advice, like others before me, is to download a demo RAW converter and try it out. Search YouTube - there are tons of people who have quick 10-minute editing tutorials that are easy to follow. You’ll need some raw files to work with, but if you don’t have any you can find some online: https://shotkit.com/free-raw-photos/#Sony_ARW_RAW_Files


Here’s a 10-step tutorial on RAW converter basics - E.G., “the workflow”:
Video: https://youtu.be/wwVEbEpGTkY?si=ErpbIFfuZ0El7zvq
Web: https://blog.dominey.photography/2020/06/28/10-step-raw-photo-processing-framework/


And some links to get you started:
DXO photolab free demo: https://www.dxo.com/free-trial/
Editing basics in DXO photolab: https://youtu.be/0NBAceIvwFA?si=lvddxqojsxe2SSVw

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Jul 10, 2024 at 02:10 AM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Post-processing 101 course?


Imagemaster wrote:
Well maybe it is not the same as it was three years ago.


If they’ve fixed the interface, that might be even worse because then tutorials from a few years ago will no longer correspond to the current interface.

To be clear, I’m not talking about features but about where they are. And this is before considering that you just have to know that this or that tool is the “old” one, and you’re just supposed to know to use the new one with a different icon instead.



Jul 10, 2024 at 03:14 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Post-processing 101 course?


This is exactly the 10000ft view I needed. Thank you so much for taking the time to educate me. I think the modern raw converter will cover the extent of what I envision my needs to be (I'll probably be wrong). I will start my journey with raw converter resources you and others have shared here and elsewhere. Thank you to everyone who has contributed to get me on my way! Harrison Ford, here I come!

mike_the_kraken wrote:
There are two general types of programs available:

A RAW converter like Lightroom, DXO Photolab, and the like allow you to adjust contrast, exposure, raise and lower highlights and shadows, correct and/or adjust colors, highlight certain tones, etc. Many of these programs have additional features that can remove noise, sharpen, correct lens distortions, and adjust geometry. Once you’re satisfied, you can export the image into a variety of formats like jpg and png. If you’re just starting out - a RAW converter is probably all you’ll need. There are a lot of accomplished photographers that only use RAW converters. Start
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Jul 10, 2024 at 03:15 AM
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Jul 10, 2024 at 03:21 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Post-processing 101 course?


Started using Photoshop since version 1 (it was available only for Mac at the time),but stopped using Adobe's newer software all together after their forcing everybody into subscriptions about 12 years ago.

For me, for my needs, Photoshop CS3 is more than all I need. Recently, all the lastest and greatest Abode software has became available to me at work. Honestly,I'm not impressed with all their bloated bells and whistles. Again,all the must-have features for Photoshop was there in the CS2 already.



Jul 10, 2024 at 02:46 PM







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