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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · From A1 to R5

I am switching to Canon for sports for the first time after using the A1-70-200 GM ii combo for the last year. I am getting a gently used R5 and a RF 70-200 2.8 for what I sold the A1 for and putting $2k in my pocket. I’ve never used the 30fps and 15 is usually still too much. I am keeping the rest of my Sony kit for now. Now that my reasoning is explained, How much rolling shutter can I expect for figure skating, and high school sports? I am planning on using the mechanical shutter most of the time, but want to know what to expect.

Jul 08, 2024 at 02:27 PM

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Probably depends on the skill level of the skaters and their moves/routines. A benefit of figure skating being a non-ball sport is that the viewer is less likely to notice minor distortion in parts of the human body than what should be a perfectly round ball or straight stick/club/bat. I use the R6 and R6II. Both have very similar sensor scan speeds to the R5 (R6II is slightly faster - see this database). I mostly shoot football in e-shutter and only see distortion when the ball is moving very fast relative to player motion, like right when it's kicked or a receiver is just about to catch it. Sometimes also on the QB release. It also depends on orientation of the camera (horizontal vs. vertical) as well as angle of the ball/throw/kick to the camera. A ball moving across the frame will distort a lot more than one moving mostly at or away from the camera. I don't shoot much 'round ball' sports but you will see distortion with soccer balls, baseball bats, golf clubs, hockey sticks. I recently shot some golf at a driving range where 40fps of the R6II would have been nice to use for a higher chance of getting a ball just coming off a club, but the rolling shutter distortion of club shafts was just too obvious.

Jul 08, 2024 at 03:16 PM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · From A1 to R5

Thank you. Very good information. I will probably give it a try as I sounds like it might be ok for running/ contact plays and maybe the football contracting a receivers hands. Basketball might not be bad. I can see your point with baseball, softball and soccer.

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Probably depends on the skill level of the skaters and their moves/routines. A benefit of figure skating being a non-ball sport is that the viewer is less likely to notice minor distortion in parts of the human body than what should be a perfectly round ball or straight stick/club/bat. I use the R6 and R6II in e-shutter for football and only see distortion when the ball is moving very fast, like right when it's kicked or a receiver is just about to catch it. It also depends on orientation of the camera (horizontal vs. vertical) as well as angle of...Show more →

Jul 08, 2024 at 03:22 PM

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I shoot with R6m2's and us electronic shutter for football, soccer, lacrosse, etc. I don't find the slightly distorted balls in these sports objectionable. The only time I use mechanical shutter is baseball, I hate the curved bats. I haven't shot golf in years and I hear you have to use silent cameras when shooting the PGA now, so electronic shutter only there.

Jul 08, 2024 at 04:20 PM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · From A1 to R5

Thank you

justashooter wrote:
I shoot with R6m2's and us electronic shutter for football, soccer, lacrosse, etc. I don't find the slightly distorted balls in these sports objectionable. The only time I use mechanical shutter is baseball, I hate the curved bats. I haven't shot golf in years and I hear you have to use silent cameras when shooting the PGA now, so electronic shutter only there.

Jul 08, 2024 at 04:30 PM


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