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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Trying to complete my gear


Hello People,

I recently made the jump from shooting in iphones to a proper mirrorless system. Shot film at one point and then DSLR for a bit before life happened.

I am currently into street, low light night (love me the neons and lights in a city), love capturing motion, a tad bit of landscape (nothing too serious just travel), a tad bit of wildlife (again mostly travel photography not serious wildlife), wide angle (astro, architecture, street). On the video front, I want to shoot food prep (making) and food product ads for a personal business I am planning to start with my wife. In addition, i want to do some travel story telling (not VLOG per say but more like capturing a place without me in it )

I preordered the new Nikon Z6III (waiting). Got a 24-120mm. A delkin 325 GB and a sandisk 256 GB UHS II. I will probably get the z 40mm F2 or the 50 mm F1.8 at some point to begin with. The 14-24 f2.8, 105 mm f2.8 MC and possibly the 100-400mm are in the shortlist for much much later if money permits.

Where I would need some help from the community is with tripods, slings and backpacks. Youtube is an influencer driven affiliate nightmare. I do not have any trust on all the shilling happening there.

For backpack, i want something which i can use for travel but also can carry gear. I checked out Tenba DNA backpack and their slings. Not sure if i should go for side access as it may not be very safe. I want to be able to carry a large water bottle and have the flexibility to attach a tripod. Since i am in PNW, weatherproofing is required.

As for tripod I am lost. I know i want something sturdy but lightweight.

Appreciate your valuable perspectives.



Jun 23, 2024 at 09:56 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Trying to complete my gear


what have you been looking at in legsets so far and what has caught your eye?


Jun 24, 2024 at 05:14 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Trying to complete my gear


What's your price range? And keep in mind a tripod is a two part system (legs/head) of that system the head is arguably more important than the legs.


Jun 24, 2024 at 08:32 AM
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meajmal wrote:
I am currently into street, low light night (love me the neons and lights in a city), love capturing motion, a tad bit of landscape (nothing too serious just travel), a tad bit of wildlife (again mostly travel photography not serious wildlife), wide angle (astro, architecture, street). On the video front, I want to shoot food prep (making) and food product ads for a personal business I am planning to start with my wife. In addition, i want to do some travel story telling (not VLOG per say but more like capturing a place without me in it )

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Welcome Meajmal,

Well first off, I see a potential need for at least two different types of tripod,,, a video-specific tripod for your food business,,,, and a light-weight portable all-rounder for your street/travel/tourism. I would suggest you concentrate on those two for the time being. Ulimately however, you might also want a heavy-duty tripod for shooting with longer glass, which may require a gimbal head.depending on the subjects you're shooting. (motion vs motionless). Of course you could narrow it down to a single heavy-duty tripod,,,, but the trade-off there would be weight (or lack thereof).

I get the impression that your current favourite style of shooting is street/nightscapes, etc, and I believe a well designed 2=series all-rounder or traveller tripod would suit you just fine. It would be reasonably light-weight, and most importantly, quick to deploy.when used with a shoulder sling. Traveller-type tripods have folding legs, which may require added time to set up, but, there's really no need to fold or unfold legs unless you're trying to fit the tripod in a smallish case. I always unfold the legs of my Traveller before heading out of the house,,, never on location.

Traveller-type tripods are very competitively priced these days, and paired with a decent head with friction control, you'll comfortably handle most travel-oriented situations. I tend to prefer an all-rounder-type over a Traveller-type, but that's just me. Some Traveller only have two leg-angle.settings, while most all-rounders have three. (for shooting low).

Regarding brands,,, I'm a big fan of Gitzo tripods, and own five carbon fiber models ranging in size from a series 1 Mountaineer, to a 2-series Traveller, and series 3, 4, and 5-series Systematic. Expensive "new",,,, but there are plenty of deals available in the "used" market. Spare parts are readily available for the Gitzo's, and that played an important role in my decision to buy.

One caveat regarding cheap tripods,,, don't fall for useless gimmicks such as convertible mono-pod legs and horizontal colummns. Many of those cheapos are also disposable if something breaks, (no service or spare parts available)

Good luck with your search, and remember that a solid foundation is the best way to start. A solid tripod kit will buy you "time" and "light".,,,, the essentials of exposure.



Jun 24, 2024 at 03:50 PM
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I would like all of the rest of the gear required to be within 1k USD including tripods, backpack and/or sling bag or any camera cubes to go with a backpack


Jun 24, 2024 at 05:25 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Trying to complete my gear


For tripods, you could consider Leofoto..

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1858469/

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1858409/




Jun 24, 2024 at 05:33 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Trying to complete my gear


Thanks for the thoughtful response. I get what you are saying. I was also not looking to cheap out on a tripod especially when you are mounting expensive gear on it. What gitzo would you recommend for my use-case outside of video.


Jun 25, 2024 at 04:40 PM
 


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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Trying to complete my gear


Was checking lefoto and benro. Thanks.


Jun 25, 2024 at 04:40 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Trying to complete my gear


I was looking leofoto, benro, ulanzee, three legged something (britishbrand ) and gitzo (lower end)


Jun 25, 2024 at 04:44 PM
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Regarding tripods: Gitzo. Expensive, but, more stable than anything else. To illustrate how much better a short trip down memory lane... Some years ago I was doing a shoot on the CA coast that included substantial amounts of macro work. Lots of wind gusts, clouds, sand, everything bad one could think of for macro work. The new high end carbon fiber tripod I had purchased for the job simply did not stabilize fast enough to keep up with the conditions. I stopped the shoot, went into town to the local pro shop (luckily there was one to go to) and bought the Gitzo that I had put off buying because of the cost. Using the Gitzo, I was able to finish the shoot without further problems. Admittedly, macro is probably the most demanding test for a tripod, and if your not doing that sort of work you can do just fine with less. However, for what's it worth from experience, Gitzo is still the most stable tripod offered in a still photo package. For video, the needs are far different and if your going to do serious video, you will benefit by the use of a serious video tripod and head. As for YouTube and the influencers they are all paid for or hoping to be paid for (I know a few of them) your correct to completely disregard their advice.


Jun 28, 2024 at 02:56 PM
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Which gitzo did you get? And what would you recommend for my use-case? Thanks for your thoughts. Much appreciated.


Jun 28, 2024 at 04:32 PM
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I had 5 but, gave my oldest one (55 years old - dang! maybe I am getting old...) to my son. Each tripod is set up to accomplish a particular purpose, thus the 4 that I use.

As a starting point, any piece of gear that you have will only help you if you have it with you. Stuff that is too big, heavy or inconvenient will get left behind - that's just human nature. So, with that in mind let's talk Gitzo...

Gitzo makes 5 series of tripods, series 1-5. They differ in the load they will handle and how big (and heavy they are.) Series 5 are mammoth and overkill for anything you are thinking about. The same for series 4. Series 3 is more manageable but, still more than you need, particularly for a 1st tripod. Series 1 and 2 are where you should focus, both are light and will support the weight your contemplating to start. All things being equal I would opt for series 2 as it will likely cover anything your ever likely to need in the practical dslr/mirrorless world. Series 2 tripods come with more or less leg sections and different leg section lengths. You start by deciding how tall you want your tripod to be (there are 2 or 3 standard heights used by Gitzo and most tripod manufacturers) and then you decide how long you want the tripod to be when collapsed for travel. This is purely a function of convenience that you will have to choose. The last variation is the number of leg sections. In order to make a 52" tripod smaller to carry, manufactures use an extra leg section to reduce the overall collapsed size. The tradeoff is speed of setup, 4 leg lock per leg vs. 3 or even 2 per leg. Not a major issue in most tripod situations and Gitzo locks lend themselves to some fast techniques. Some will say that there is less to go wrong and I suppose that might be true but, my 55 year old tripod uses the same friction locks, has been used upwards of 1000 times (if I had to guess) and to this day has required no service. As for stability of 3 vs. 4 leg sections, not an issue on a good tripod.

At the end of the day, like most technical disciplines, the more experienced you become the more your will have opinions of what works for you. That means you will change equipment and techniques over time. The notion of getting the perfect whatever as your first purchase is unrealistic and limiting. Get what you can, learn how to use it, perfect your techniques, and then change your equipment as your skill, experience and budget allow.

Center columns is another issue of hot contention. Adjustable center columns allow you additional reach without vastly increasing the package size. I use them routinely and as with everything, Technique coupled with an understanding of the limits of yourself and your gear will put far ahead of the armchair experts.

The last thing to consider is the head, usually sold separately. You chose a Nikon body, remember the number of choices and options you had there and multiply by 10 for tripod heads! Heads can be as expensive as the leg set. Start with a simple medium size ball head made by almost anyone, and as you use it more you will discover what works for you which will allow you to select the next head based on your criteria and preferences.



Jun 29, 2024 at 06:01 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Trying to complete my gear


Danplane wrote:
I had 5 but, gave my oldest one (55 years old - dang! maybe I am getting old...) to my son. Each tripod is set up to accomplish a particular purpose, thus the 4 that I use.

As a starting point, any piece of gear that you have will only help you if you have it with you. Stuff that is too big, heavy or inconvenient will get left behind - that's just human nature. So, with that in mind let's talk Gitzo...

Gitzo makes 5 series of tripods, series 1-5. They differ in the load they will handle and how
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Superbly stated,,,, excellent post.



Jun 29, 2024 at 06:11 PM







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