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I appreciate your feedback, but my technique is no different now than it was before. I don't think technique is the issue. I think the issue is the hardware.


sorry I wasn't clear - but "technique being no different" is the issue with technique that I was trying to describe.

mirrorless is different technology, which comes with different adaptations that must be made in order to properly utilize all the new features.

imagine going from a Toyota Corolla (1DXII) to a Ferrari 488 (R3). if in the corolla you were used to having to stomp on the gas to merge on the highway, and you tried to do the same thing in a Ferrari - chances are you're going to spin out and have a bad time. similar idea here. what worked for DLSR, will not necessarily work on mirrorless.

if you're able to point specifically to what issues you're having with your current setup, it can probably be easily identified on what needs to change to work. for a lot of people, AF differences were a learning curve as Melcat mentioned.

my tone wasn't meant to be condescending - but just to say that literally, time with the machine is the cure for the majority of ailments you or anyone else is describing.

I hope this clarifies

melcat wrote:
You can’t have looked far, but then you don’t seem to have found the shift key either.

The weak points of mirrorless AF have been well aired here and elsewhere. For example, recent mirrorless cameras are great at tracking animals across the frame in most conditons, but have real problems with low contrast subjects in dim light, even a slow-swimming duck in open water. And the R3 at least has a tendency to drop off the subject and rack the lens right out to the foreground or background foliage, requiring manually refocussing to recover. A while ago I took it and
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I was debating responding because some of your comments are just trollish enough like trying to throw unnecessary weak insults, as the other crap posters... but since you took the time to type an essay, I'll take the time to respond in case it helps someone like David.

yes, in the beginning the weak points of the new AF have been illustrated. as I mentioned. however, nobody is returning to DSLR saying that one weak point in AF is cause to throw away the entire system.

I agree, "Mirrorless is better for most of the people, most of the time, which is enough to destroy the market for new DSLRs". I just took more liberty to use wide strokes.

For new people who are considering DSLR vs mirrorless - most of them just want the best end result. They don't want to read through 100 pages of nitpicking minor things that can easily be changed via settings or technique. so when given the opportunity to write a thesis on the differences, or simply broad stroke it to "mirrorless is better in every way", you can see which option I chose.

You and I are on the same page, and gave the same recommendation - just for semantically different reasons.

You consider the memory cards to be old technology, I consider everything DSLR related to be old technology.



Jun 19, 2024 at 09:45 AM
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Just picked a used 1DX Mark II at the yard sale of our local camera club had for donated gear and it cost me all of $400 and it had a RRS L bracket and the LC-E19 battery charger. Everything is in perfect working condition and had about 36,000 shutter count on its shutter but will need a new LP-E19 battery since the one it came with looks like it close to end of life. I will also have to buy a CFast 2.0 card I think if I want to populate the send card slot.

Can you put a regular CF card, like the one needed for slot 1, in the slot 2 designated for CFast 2.0?

I’ve owned many Canon DSLR up to the original 1DX and have an R5 and pretty full set of RF lenses but still have a few EF lenses I could use on it like the EF 300/2.8L, EF 70-300/4-5.6L, and EF 35/1.4 L II. Also have a EF 15mm fish eye and 40/2.8 but probably won’t use them on such a big body.

Everything else I own is mirrorless now except for the EOS ( and Nikon and Pentax) film bodies I’ve picked up like the EOS 1vh and EOS 3. So it’s a little sentimental but still a great camera.





Sep 17, 2024 at 10:44 AM
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It was the premier sports camera many years ago. Many pros made their paychecks on the body. Nothing about 2024 is going to make the camera incapable and bad shots from the camera are far more likely to be from user error than the body itself.

I think the 7D mk ii is better for the non-professional who wants a sporty camera. It has good AF and fast shutter speeds.

Otherwise, any 1DX camera is an amazing, albeit heavy beast.



Sep 17, 2024 at 06:49 PM
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A CF can definitely not be used in a CFAST slot.
Very different connector.

swldstn wrote:
Just picked a used 1DX Mark II at the yard sale of our local camera club had for donated gear and it cost me all of $400 and it had a RRS L bracket and the LC-E19 battery charger. Everything is in perfect working condition and had about 36,000 shutter count on its shutter but will need a new LP-E19 battery since the one it came with looks like it close to end of life. I will also have to buy a CFast 2.0 card I think if I want to populate the send card slot.

Can you put a
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Sep 17, 2024 at 10:49 PM
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swldstn wrote:
Everything is in perfect working condition and had about 36,000 shutter count on its shutter but will need a new LP-E19 battery since the one it came with looks like it close to end of life. I will also have to buy a CFast 2.0 card I think if I want to populate the send card slot.

Can you put a regular CF card, like the one needed for slot 1, in the slot 2 designated for CFast 2.0?


CF and CFast cards are not interchangeable. Therefore you will need a CFast card for that slot.

Regarding the poor battery condition: charge it and use it, even if just shooting without cards in the camera to give it a bit of a workout. Do this on and off for a while, including a few recharge cycles and see what happens (you could disable or lengthen the time before the camera sleeps so that it drains the battery more quickly even when not in use). During the pandemic I didn't use my 1DXII much and the batteries mostly sat unused. The health indicator dropped one bar on a couple of them. But once things picked up again and the camera saw more use, one of the batteries regained full health status. That said, it's only an indicator. I had one LP-E19 show full health even after 5 years, then suddenly wouldn't accept a charge and had to be replaced (Canon checked it but said they couldn't do anything to recover it). Meanwhile I had one LP-E4 (which you will remember as the battery for the 1DIII-1DX models) from 2007 still working fine when I transitioned to mirrorless a couple years ago.



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swldstn wrote:
Just picked a used 1DX Mark II at the yard sale of our local camera club had for donated gear and it cost me all of $400 and it had a RRS L bracket and the LC-E19 battery charger. Everything is in perfect working condition and had about 36,000 shutter count on its shutter but will need a new LP-E19 battery since the one it came with looks like it close to end of life. I will also have to buy a CFast 2.0 card I think if I want to populate the send card slot.

Can you put a
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That's a deal!!!

Like Ron said, I used to use my GH1 occasionally, and if it had been sitting the batteries seemed to get better after use, my BP-511's seem to be getting better with use, recently, as well

Someone had a thread that they had people rebuilding tool batteries packs re-do their camera battery. Which shouldn't be too hard vs tool batteries, it's just some cells in there, for the most part.



Sep 17, 2024 at 11:58 PM
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garyvot wrote:
Random off topic... but I miss my 1D Mark IVs... Even more so than the 1Ds Mark III, this camera embodied the spirit of the original 1-series digital, IMO. (I consider the 1DX and its progeny kind of a reset.)

I may be in a minority of one, but I was sad to see APS-H disappear. My 16-35 and 70-200 zooms acquired more useful focal length ranges at a 1.3x crop. (I mean, 21-45 and 90-260 was awesome... I could fully skip the 'standard zoom' and 300mm and be happy.)

(All that said, my mirrorless cameras undeniably focus better; I'm sure my
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Gary, can I buy you a pint of whatever you're drinking? :-) I'm also sad that I don't get to break out my 1D4 too often; it's just that I'm shooting progressively less as the time goes on, and fewer still are the occasions where I would really need to wield two cameras at once, so the 1D4 mostly stays in the closet.

Speaking of 1DX2, I guess a possible limitation would be the storage media? AFAIR it used one CF slot, a rather inconvenient proposition in itself in 2024, and one CFAST, which looks like an altogether obsolete type of cards by now. At least SD cards used in 1D4 are still going strong with no end in sight, whereas CFAST was an oddity that quickly joined SmartMedia and Memory Stick in the great universal Recycled Bin... Not a deal breaker I guess, but something to consider.



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IlyaSnopchenko wrote:
Gary, can I buy you a pint of whatever you're drinking? :-) I'm also sad that I don't get to break out my 1D4 too often


Haha, sure! I'm a wine guy mostly, but I'll raise a glass to the classics anytime.



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I still have only dslrs(Canon) and since Canon is not producing a FF, hi mpx ,mirrorless, with IBIS, body..so my Canon dslr's will be my choice until they do.
No reason NOT to get a 1DxIII IMHO!
Dan



Sep 18, 2024 at 10:47 AM
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A bit of a tangent but was thinking on Sunday while shooting a football game that the sound of a DSLR on the sideline now really stands out as an oddity. Most have transitioned to mirrorless, which happened really quickly over the past year or so.

IlyaSnopchenko wrote:
Speaking of 1DX2, I guess a possible limitation would be the storage media? AFAIR it used one CF slot, a rather inconvenient proposition in itself in 2024, and one CFAST, which looks like an altogether obsolete type of cards by now. At least SD cards used in 1D4 are still going strong with no end in sight, whereas CFAST was an oddity that quickly joined SmartMedia and Memory Stick in the great universal Recycled Bin... Not a deal breaker I guess, but something to consider.


Add PCMCIA cards to that list. Might be before your time! CFast probably should have been released sooner than it was given CF uses the PATA interface and CFast is SATA, which HDDs had already transitioned to back in the '00s. CFast seemed to find a brief niche in higher end video devices. But it's definitely a niche storage format that is end of life and I'm glad I did not invest much in it when I had the 1DXII. CFe seems to be quite effective and prices are quite good relative to SDXC UHS-II V90 cards, so no complaints about it from me, other than the lack of dirt cheap low capacity cards (which are nice to have for event use when one is frequently handing off cards to runners or techs manning a computer booth). It's something I much prefer about the SD format.



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rscheffler wrote:
Add PCMCIA cards to that list. Might be before your time!


People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms;-)

I remember my first 4MB PCMCIA memory card. Was a promo package with an Apple Newton to VAR employees when they launched the Newton.



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I remember shooting with the Kodak/Canon DCS 520 and I think 320MB Viper cards back around 1998/1999... you didn't want to drop the card (it was a mini HDD).

In 2006 I covered a major sports tournament and remember loaning someone a PCMCIA to CF adapter so they could download their CF card. I don't know why I even had that adapter with me (it probably came with one of the first CF cards I bought in 2001) because by then I was using an Apple MacBook with a Firewire CF card reader.



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AmbientMike wrote:
That's a deal!!!

Like Ron said, I used to use my GH1 occasionally, and if it had been sitting the batteries seemed to get better after use, my BP-511's seem to be getting better with use, recently, as well

Someone had a thread that they had people rebuilding tool batteries packs re-do their camera battery. Which shouldn't be too hard vs tool batteries, it's just some cells in there, for the most part.


Thank you for the battery advice. Will give it a try. Will buy a new one anyway to have a spare. It’s still a battery used in Canon’s R3 and latest R1 so easy to resell if I don’t end up needing it.

As far as CFast cards I know the use is in the mirror but seems to have been popular for higher end video cameras like Red, ARRI, and Blackmagic so I will see what I can find to fill the second memory card slot.
Or due to this issue should I stay away from the Mark II.



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Hah, the sonic aspect of the transition never occurred to me. Interestingly enough the Z9 I'm using now xan be completely silent if I need it to, though it's not convenient unless I absolutely have to be quiet. Otherwise, there is a synthetic shutter sound, with the volume that can be set from barely audible to pretty loud. Of course the ML bodies that have mechanical shutters still have real sounds, but they have to be way different without the mirror slap. The old Sony Nex and Samsung bodies that I've used certainly do, though it would not be mistaken for
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No, I do remember PCMCIA, though mostly as the means of adding periphery to laptops. Even have one such extension board lying around, and an old broken laptop into which it could have gone theoretically. Though the first cameras I ever got my mitts on already had CF/MS for storage.



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swldstn wrote:
Thank you for the battery advice. Will give it a try. Will buy a new one anyway to have a spare. It’s still a battery used in Canon’s R3 and latest R1 so easy to resell if I don’t end up needing it.

As far as CFast cards I know the use is in the mirror but seems to have been popular for higher end video cameras like Red, ARRI, and Blackmagic so I will see what I can find to fill the second memory card slot.
Or due to this issue should I stay away from the Mark II.


Getting a new battery is probably a good idea. So many expensive 24mp like the Z6III and a9III, 20mp is hardly out of date, at this point. Even has good as or better low iso DR vs those.

You might reach out on here maybe even take out B&S ad lots of people moved to mirrorless might have these lying around. Still available new, too maybe stock up as long as 1Dx2 have been known to last



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AmbientMike wrote:
Getting a new battery is probably a good idea. So many expensive 24mp like the Z6III and a9III, 20mp is hardly out of date, at this point. Even has good as or better low iso DR vs those.

You might reach out on here maybe even take out B&S ad lots of people moved to mirrorless might have these lying around. Still available new, too maybe stock up as long as 1Dx2 have been known to last


Well, this 1DX Mark II is my “new” old camera. Successfully, with very little effort updated to the latest 1.1.8 firmware version after finally finding my Lexar Compact Flash Reader. Luckily I also found the USB-C to USB-A cable needed for it. lucky to have a Mac still running a slightly older version of MacOS since Canon no longer supports their software for this camera on new versions of the MacOS. It looks like for DSLRs their life span depends on supporting technology as much on if the camera still works. Not identical to the 1DX I used to own but very close.



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Just sold my 1DX Mark II with a tear in my eye.

It was the most rugged, reliable, intuitive camera I've ever owned. And it was working as well as the day I bought it. But I was ready to move to a mirrorless system.

I'd liken the 1DX Mark II to that great used car that is going to give its next owner another 100,000 miles.




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swldstn wrote:
Well, this 1DX Mark II is my “new” old camera. Successfully, with very little effort updated to the latest 1.1.8 firmware version after finally finding my Lexar Compact Flash Reader. Luckily I also found the USB-C to USB-A cable needed for it. lucky to have a Mac still running a slightly older version of MacOS since Canon no longer supports their software for this camera on new versions of the MacOS. It looks like for DSLRs their life span depends on supporting technology as much on if the camera still works. Not identical to the 1DX I used to own
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DPP 4 should still process the 1Dx2 pretty easy not really familiar with Macs though. Thinking I can pp 20D even on DPP 4 unless they changed it trying to keep saving the old versions in case needed

I recently came to much the same conclusions on the older bodies, Canon stopped making the BP-511 batteries can apparently be rebuilt maybe just get 3rd party. Got several older CF cards since I'm not sure how long something compatible is going to be made. Probably many out there, though in people's closets etc



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AmbientMike wrote:
DPP 4 should still process the 1Dx2 pretty easy not really familiar with Macs though. Thinking I can pp 20D even on DPP 4 unless they changed it trying to keep saving the old versions in case needed

I recently came to much the same conclusions on the older bodies, Canon stopped making the BP-511 batteries can apparently be rebuilt maybe just get 3rd party. Got several older CF cards since I'm not sure how long something compatible is going to be made. Probably many out there, though in people's closets etc


Plenty of used CF and CFast memory cards out there on sites like Adorama and I’m sure eBay but they’re mostly rated as “average” quality. Decided I would just try to find some new ones rather than risk an in the field failure if I decide to really use the camera.



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swldstn wrote:
Plenty of used CF and CFast memory cards out there on sites like Adorama and I’m sure eBay but they’re mostly rated as “average” quality. Decided I would just try to find some new ones rather than risk an in the field failure if I decide to really use the camera.


Looks like plenty of new available, expensive but 128gb probably holds 3k+ photos in raw. WTB in B&S an option, might get some nice ones



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