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Thoughts on purchasing a 1Dx Mark II in 2024?

  
 
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Makes sense. To address the nostalgic need - what about something a bit older? I just picked up a roughed up but fully functional 1dmk4 for $300 to do just that.


May 21, 2024 at 09:33 AM
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Tony Ross wrote:
Just watch out for Canon's end of life announcements. They support cameras and lenses for some years after they stop selling them, but eventually they call them end-of-life, and stop making parts for them. If the 1DX II has passed end-of-life, and you buy one, and something breaks, you may have to look for another broken one to find parts to repair yours.


There are Independent shops that will service cameras and lenses for years to come as long as there are parts available.



May 21, 2024 at 09:44 AM
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Tony Ross wrote:
Just watch out for Canon's end of life announcements. They support cameras and lenses for some years after they stop selling them, but eventually they call them end-of-life, and stop making parts for them. If the 1DX II has passed end-of-life, and you buy one, and something breaks, you may have to look for another broken one to find parts to repair yours.

tcphoto wrote:
There are Independent shops that will service cameras and lenses for years to come as long as there are parts available.


The more economical approach, with older cameras, is usually just to buy another one in good condition and use it instead. The cost to repair one by harvesting parts from a second broken unit will probably be higher, though it does keep one more thing out of the landfill for a while longer.



May 21, 2024 at 04:42 PM
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Further, your replacement camera may become a donor or be able to make use of your original body as a donor.

rscheffler wrote:
The more economical approach, with older cameras, is usually just to buy another one in good condition and use it instead. The cost to repair one by harvesting parts from a second broken unit will probably be higher, though it does keep one more thing out of the landfill for a while longer.




May 21, 2024 at 08:26 PM
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Congratulations on your new purchase!

I owned a Canon EOS 1D-X and a Canon EOS 1D-X Mk II. I traded them in, and got an R3.

My 1D-X cameras were a pleasure to own and to use, but in no way do I miss their tendency to fling oil onto their sensors. Even with using the Canon Dust Delete Data feature in their DPP software, I would still have to deal with oil spots in many images (there always seemed to be one prominent spot that got past the system. Dust Delete Data is also system that also slowed down processing.) When using those cameras for images involving blue skies, it was such a waste of time. Again, the 1D-X series were great cameras but I have not had a single oil spot when using my R3 (I do use the electronic shutter vastly more than the mechanical shutter).

When in 'Silent Mode', the EOS 1D-X was still LOUD. The 1D-X Mk II also was moderately loud in 'Silent Mode'. The R3 can be dead-silent if desired.



May 22, 2024 at 09:44 AM
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As to, " Thoughts on purchasing a 1Dx Mark II in 2024?", If it's for general current use, rather than a nostalgic memento, thus comparing it to current MILCH models, the question is, what upgrades are you content to dismiss?

Modern sensor technology, with significant improvement in DR, and noise characteristics even at higher resolution, vastly improved AF & Tracking capability, just to name a few of many.

The 1DX-2 was a fine camera, in it's day, and is no better or worse today, so,If totally satisfied with the 6D Mk2, and no interest in the above partial list of improvements, a properly functioning 1DX-2 should suit you just fine!



May 22, 2024 at 12:05 PM
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nmerc_photos wrote:
I don't know why anyone would buy a DSLR body in 2024.

But, if that's your prerogative for some reason - I don't think a used 1Dx II is the worst decision you could make.

The only thing you might run into is difficulty selling when/if you try to. It's an 8 year old body that's already depreciated 90%. Most people would just shelve it instead of try to sell it at that point.

It also only has 2 years of support from Canon before they stop servicing it.


"I don't know why anyone would buy a DSLR body in 2024." To me, anyway, that's quite a statement. Would love to know what's behind it/why you'd recommend against buying a DSLR.



Jun 17, 2024 at 12:30 PM
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davidrhorer wrote:
"I don't know why anyone would buy a DSLR body in 2024." To me, anyway, that's quite a statement. Would love to know what's behind it/why you'd recommend against buying a DSLR.


at every price point you can get a DSLR, you can find a mirrorless camera that will offer better results

to me, anyone spending $1K on a 1DX MK II instead of buying an R6, is crazy.

in the beginning there were a lot of people hesitant to make the switch, but now I haven't seen one negative thing about mirrorless comparatively - other than price. and price is no longer an issue.

mirrorless is better in every way. you can use the same optics as you would a DSLR, and every lens will perform better on the mirrorless body.



Jun 17, 2024 at 12:59 PM
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nmerc_photos wrote:
at every price point you can get a DSLR, you can find a mirrorless camera that will offer better results

to me, anyone spending $1K on a 1DX MK II instead of buying an R6, is crazy.

in the beginning there were a lot of people hesitant to make the switch, but now I haven't seen one negative thing about mirrorless comparatively - other than price. and price is no longer an issue.

mirrorless is better in every way. you can use the same optics as you would a DSLR, and every lens will perform better on the mirrorless body.


“….mirrorless is better in every way..”
Until the heavens open or you drop it !!
The mirrorless then becomes a paperweight, the 1dxii, just shrugs and keeps firing 😎



Jun 17, 2024 at 01:13 PM
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8 years old and the 1DxII still sells used for more then the R6. So it must do pretty well.


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With all the shade thrown at DSLR'S online, KEH still has $1500+ on nice 1DxII's, 8 years after release. Must be a pretty good camera


Jun 17, 2024 at 11:35 PM
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nmerc_photos wrote:
at every price point you can get a DSLR, you can find a mirrorless camera that will offer better results

to me, anyone spending $1K on a 1DX MK II instead of buying an R6, is crazy.

in the beginning there were a lot of people hesitant to make the switch, but now I haven't seen one negative thing about mirrorless comparatively - other than price. and price is no longer an issue.

mirrorless is better in every way. you can use the same optics as you would a DSLR, and every lens will perform better on the mirrorless body.


Take this for what it's worth, but I use an R5 and an EF 500mm f/4 L ll. The R5 has a lot of bells and whistles and some that are important and helpful. But overall, I got better results with the 500 and my 1DX. And I may go back to using that combo (if I can still lift it).



Jun 18, 2024 at 08:17 AM
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davidrhorer wrote:
Take this for what it's worth, but I use an R5 and an EF 500mm f/4 L ll. The R5 has a lot of bells and whistles and some that are important and helpful. But overall, I got better results with the 500 and my 1DX. And I may go back to using that combo (if I can still lift it).


I suspect, like most people - it's a technique issue for you.

If you look back on these forums, there were tons of people saying "oh mirrorless is bad, I get better results with my DSLR".

where are all of those people now? using mirrorless. there's a reason you don't see professionals clinging onto outdated equipment. if the gear wasn't markedly improved - the companies wouldn't make it.

there's definitely a learning curve involved, and it can take more skill to utilize mirrorless compared to DSLR - especially if you've used the latter for years or decades.

it'll come to you in time



Jun 18, 2024 at 09:13 AM
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nmerc_photos wrote:
I suspect, like most people - it's a technique issue for you.

If you look back on these forums, there were tons of people saying "oh mirrorless is bad, I get better results with my DSLR".

where are all of those people now? using mirrorless. there's a reason you don't see professionals clinging onto outdated equipment. if the gear wasn't markedly improved - the companies wouldn't make it.

there's definitely a learning curve involved, and it can take more skill to utilize mirrorless compared to DSLR - especially if you've used the latter for years or decades.

it'll come to you in time
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Where is everyone now, you have to think many left because of condescending posts like this.



Jun 18, 2024 at 10:44 AM
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nmerc_photos wrote:
I suspect, like most people - it's a technique issue for you.

If you look back on these forums, there were tons of people saying "oh mirrorless is bad, I get better results with my DSLR".

where are all of those people now? using mirrorless. there's a reason you don't see professionals clinging onto outdated equipment. if the gear wasn't markedly improved - the companies wouldn't make it.

there's definitely a learning curve involved, and it can take more skill to utilize mirrorless compared to DSLR - especially if you've used the latter for years or decades.

it'll come to you in time
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I really doubt it takes more skill 😂😂
Let’s not kid ourselves eh’ geez!!
Mirrorless with their amazing EVF, AF and IBIS is basically the new “green square” we had on our DSLR’s. You’ve got to be proper stupid to cock up with a mirrorless….like painting with numbers….😂
Or Press Here Dummy

A skilled person will make any tool work, whereas the unskilled need all the help they can get……ain’t that the truth!!

Just sayin..😎👍🏻



Jun 18, 2024 at 11:32 AM
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You should just accept that you are a far superior being.
Not everyone is as skilfull as you.
So maybe those inferior skilled lesser beings can only manage to get good results with lesser equipment, being a better match for their meagre abilities.
All we can do is dream of one day approaching your greatness.

nmerc_photos wrote:
I suspect, like most people - it's a technique issue for you.

If you look back on these forums, there were tons of people saying "oh mirrorless is bad, I get better results with my DSLR".

where are all of those people now? using mirrorless. there's a reason you don't see professionals clinging onto outdated equipment. if the gear wasn't markedly improved - the companies wouldn't make it.

there's definitely a learning curve involved, and it can take more skill to utilize mirrorless compared to DSLR - especially if you've used the latter for years or decades.

it'll come to you in time
...Show more



Jun 18, 2024 at 07:04 PM
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nmerc_photos wrote:
in the beginning there were a lot of people hesitant to make the switch, but now I haven't seen one negative thing about mirrorless comparatively - other than price. and price is no longer an issue.


You can’t have looked far, but then you don’t seem to have found the shift key either.

The weak points of mirrorless AF have been well aired here and elsewhere. For example, recent mirrorless cameras are great at tracking animals across the frame in most conditons, but have real problems with low contrast subjects in dim light, even a slow-swimming duck in open water. And the R3 at least has a tendency to drop off the subject and rack the lens right out to the foreground or background foliage, requiring manually refocussing to recover. A while ago I took it and the 100–500 outside into the cloud of butterfies in my back yard, and it just would not stay on the subject. I went back in the house, got out the 1Ds Mk III and 180 macro, went back out and nailed it on the first shot.

If architecture’s your bag instead, know that no current mirrorless body from Canon, Nikon or Sony has cross AF sensors. (The OM Systems ones do.) It’s one of the things people are hoping are in the upcoming R5 Mk II and R1.

mirrorless is better in every way. you can use the same optics as you would a DSLR, and every lens will perform better on the mirrorless body.

Mirrorless is better for most of the people, most of the time, which is enough to destroy the market for new DSLRs. Image quality is exactly the same on Canon mirrorless compared to DSLR, slightly worse adapted to Sony under some lighting conditions due to artifacts from their phase detection pixels.

The last high end Nikon DSLRs were very close to mirrorless in tracking (Nikon’s “3d tracking” on the D850). Canon may have been less good (I don’t know how good the 1DX Mk II was) and my R3 is better than my 1Ds MK III and 1D Mk III. Tracking is useful to me, but irrelevant for someone shooting urban architecture for example.

Except in very dim light, the viewfinder of my 1Ds Mk III is vastly better than that of my R3, which has the best viewfinder of any Canon mirrorless and is considered by many to have the best viewfinder on a mirrorless camera from any brand (some Sonys have more dots, but display at reduced resolution when focussing). The R3 has wildly inaccurate white balance in the viewfinder, despite the image and the review on the rear LCD being right. It has limited dynamic range. It sometimes shows weird blue-green fringing on edges.

I can only assume people think mirrorless viewfinders are great because they’ve never used a Canon 1-series or the old Olympus OM-1 and OM-2. Those are the cameras I’ve been using for most of the last 40 years. I did use the original 5D for about 4 years and hated the viewfinder. Most Canon SLR viewfinders have been horrid. If that’s what people are comparing with, yes, mirrorless is better.

BTW, I did advise the OP not to buy the 1DX Mk II upthread, but not because it was a DSLR. It was because it had old technology like the cards.




Jun 18, 2024 at 09:44 PM
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melcat wrote:
You can’t have looked far, but then you don’t seem to have found the shift key either.

The weak points of mirrorless AF have been well aired here and elsewhere. For example, recent mirrorless cameras are great at tracking animals across the frame in most conditons, but have real problems with low contrast subjects in dim light, even a slow-swimming duck in open water. And the R3 at least has a tendency to drop off the subject and rack the lens right out to the foreground or background foliage, requiring manually refocussing to recover. A while ago I took it and
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I wonder if you have tried the OVF simulation mode on the R3 and what you think of it?

My R6 Mark IIs have this as well but as the viewfinder is not HDR (and has other deficits compared to the R3), the potential benefit is not realized, I feel.



Jun 19, 2024 at 04:22 AM
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garyvot wrote:
I wonder if you have tried the OVF simulation mode on the R3 and what you think of it?.


I’ve had it on all the time since I got the camera. So far, I haven’t used the camera with studio flash, so can’t comment on its suitability for that. For normal shooting, I don’t want the viewfinder reflecting exposure effects, because I don’t always use “correct” exposure.

For some reason, you can’t have a live histogram with optical viewfinder simulation on, so if you need that, don’t go buying an R3 for the OVF simulation!



Jun 19, 2024 at 04:35 AM
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nmerc_photos wrote:
I suspect, like most people - it's a technique issue for you.

If you look back on these forums, there were tons of people saying "oh mirrorless is bad, I get better results with my DSLR".

where are all of those people now? using mirrorless. there's a reason you don't see professionals clinging onto outdated equipment. if the gear wasn't markedly improved - the companies wouldn't make it.

there's definitely a learning curve involved, and it can take more skill to utilize mirrorless compared to DSLR - especially if you've used the latter for years or decades.

it'll come to you in time
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I appreciate your feedback, but my technique is no different now than it was before. I don't think technique is the issue. I think the issue is the hardware.



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