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Thoughts on purchasing a 1Dx Mark II in 2024?

  
 
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Whoah. Did not mean to start infighting at FM

Just curious. I had a few hours to discuss this with my wife on my way to buy another outdated piece of equipment (Mark I 500mm f/4L IS) and she's of the mindset that I'm living in nostalgia and I should get with the times. But the times are expensive and I'm not quite sure I want to spend that kind of money. I'll keep thinking about it.



Apr 28, 2024 at 08:32 PM
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Geez, use whatever camera you want. Who cares what other people use? If the camera does what you want and/or need, that is the one you get. The latest mirrorless cameras can do many things that DSLR’s can’t do, but if you don’t need those features it is of no importance. Anyone who says a DSLR can do everything a mirrorless camera can do does not know what they are talking about.


Apr 28, 2024 at 08:58 PM
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You see the negativity on here regarding DSLR'S and then people can't figure our why a shop didn't offer them top dollar for their DSLR gear


Apr 28, 2024 at 09:55 PM
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I got my 1Dx Mark II from BHPhotoVideo last year with a great deal even though I own and shoot Canon R5.
It just that I like the feeling shooting 1D series since I still own 1Ds Mark III and 1D Mark IV. They are the last of the beasts.
The optical viewfinder, the sound of the shutter, battery life ... of 1D series are awesome to enjoy shooting.



Apr 28, 2024 at 10:17 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Thoughts on purchasing a 1Dx Mark II in 2024?


There are always trigger topics on whatever forum you're on. Ignore the infighting.

On the main topic, sometimes getting different gear can be inspiring. If the job you need it for doesn't restrict the equipment, then get what you want. There are many good things about the camera, but also some detractors depending on your use case scenario. Pick out the useful info here, and ignore the flame wars.



Apr 28, 2024 at 10:44 PM
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tam_nhan23 wrote:
I got my 1Dx Mark II from BHPhotoVideo last year with a great deal even though I own and shoot Canon R5.
It just that I like the feeling shooting 1D series since I still own 1Ds Mark III and 1D Mark IV. They are the last of the beasts.
The optical viewfinder, the sound of the shutter, battery life ... of 1D series are awesome to enjoy shooting.


Random off topic... but I miss my 1D Mark IVs... Even more so than the 1Ds Mark III, this camera embodied the spirit of the original 1-series digital, IMO. (I consider the 1DX and its progeny kind of a reset.)

I may be in a minority of one, but I was sad to see APS-H disappear. My 16-35 and 70-200 zooms acquired more useful focal length ranges at a 1.3x crop. (I mean, 21-45 and 90-260 was awesome... I could fully skip the 'standard zoom' and 300mm and be happy.)

(All that said, my mirrorless cameras undeniably focus better; I'm sure my memory is colored by some rose tinted glasses....)

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Apr 28, 2024 at 11:49 PM
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It just didn't seem like af vs mf was a big deal on film. Even though one clearly had capabilities the other didn't have. If you liked your F1 (or old Nikkormat or F3) you used that, others used the Eos-1 (or F4.) The prices never went to nothing, they might have dropped but people didn't give them away, either.

So I just don't see people getting so annoying and condescending over mirrorless gear vs DSLR. It got old a long time ago.

There are some very capable EF cameras, even the 90D has eye af, in LV, even Rebel SL2 has DPAF and pretty much infinite af points in LV. Very capable cameras having a lot of mirrorless features in LV



Apr 28, 2024 at 11:55 PM
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AmbientMike wrote:
It just didn't seem like af vs mf was a big deal on film.


To be honest, I have felt a bit hampered by autofocus at times.

Full frame subject tracking on mirrorless maybe changes things, but with traditional AF, I always felt there was a high "cognitive load" in managing AF points. Too often, either I failed, or the camera did (for lack of accurate outside AF points), causing me to place things in the center of the frame.

I think that managing AF points requires more "cognitive effort" which takes away from the act of composition. Focusing manually (when I was using MF film SRLs) felt more intuitive. It distracted less from what I was trying to "see" as a photographer.

I think this is because these two things engage different parts of the brain. Letting the camera focus while you pick an AF point is a kind of analytical exercise. But sensing when a subject is visually "sharp" on the viewfinder is intuitive and requires less higher-level processing.

But of course, I could just be drunk.



Apr 29, 2024 at 12:39 AM
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I used manual focus a lot more with DSLR's than I do with mirrorless, despite the fact that manual focus is much easier with mirrorless. That is quite telling about the deficiencies with DSLR AF, in my book.


Apr 29, 2024 at 01:41 AM
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Don’t do it (purchase a 1DX Mk II). It uses two outmoded card formats, Compact Flash and CFast. I suppose you could stock up on cards and readers, but it’s not a risk I’d be running.

My 1Ds Mk III, on the other hand has one Compact Flash card slot and one SD card. I do still have working Compact Flash cards and a reader, but if they died the camera still supports SD, which will be with us for probably a decade at least because of how widespread it is.



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Max_Pain wrote:
Whoah. Did not mean to start infighting at FM

Just curious. I had a few hours to discuss this with my wife on my way to buy another outdated piece of equipment (Mark I 500mm f/4L IS) and she's of the mindset that I'm living in nostalgia and I should get with the times. But the times are expensive and I'm not quite sure I want to spend that kind of money. I'll keep thinking about it.


It's most expensive if you buy current or very recently released gear new. But as you seem to know, buying used reduces some of the depreciation hit. The older the used item, the lower the depreciation hit. 1DXII is a 2016 release and if buying a good condition used copy, you'll avoid most of the depreciation... R6 is a ~2020 release. It's about 85-90% as 'capable' as the current R6II (for faster paced action situations) but similarly, buying a good condition used copy will avoid some of the depreciation. Maybe not as much as the 1DXII, but it's really up to you to decide where the middle ground lies between getting the features you want at the price you feel is reasonable.

Like some others who posted previous, I used all the Canon 1 series cameras (right from the EOS-1) and had a strong 1-series bias in respect to the performance the series offered relative to the rest of the lineup. But something changed with Canon and their mirrorless releases. There is less core functional/capability variation across the range of current FF models compared to the previous EF system cameras. I tried them all (R3, 5, 6, 7) compared to my 1DXII (with which I had years of experience) and ended up with the R6 and R6II. While there are clearly physical/ergonomic differences between those and the 1DXII (that caused me some adjustment pains), both the R6 and R6II offer superior AF performance, including in challenging fast-paced situations. But what really won me over was the subject/face/eye detection and tracking capabilities of the mirrorless cameras. If you do a lot of people photography, this capability is literally a 'game changer' in respect to how you can compose images on the fly while the camera dynamically tracks the subject throughout the frame. And correct/accurate focus is consistently much better than I ever experienced with DSLRs (where I frequently over-shot to ensure enough images were correctly focused). If DSLRs could do that as well as mirrorless then I'd probably have put off the transition, but the only DSLRs I used that could come close had to be used in live view to achieve similar consistency... and that's effectively using them as mirrorless cameras.

IMO this is not a DSLR vs mirrorless face-off. Rather, it's a question of what equipment has the best capabilities to do what you need at the price you're willing to pay. For me, I was willing to buy lower-end mirrorless models to minimize the transition cost, rather than going for the R3 as a direct 1D series replacement, because those still outperformed the 1DXII in the parameters that mattered to me. Given your posts, it sounds like you feel the best value for you is several camera generations back. If that's the case, give the 1DXII a try. It should be a massive upgrade from the 6DII. Then in 2-3 years, revisit mirrorless options. By that point a camera like the R6II will likely be in the $1K range.



Apr 29, 2024 at 09:54 AM
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melcat wrote:
Don’t do it (purchase a 1DX Mk II). It uses two outmoded card formats, Compact Flash and CFast. I suppose you could stock up on cards and readers, but it’s not a risk I’d be running.

My 1Ds Mk III, on the other hand has one Compact Flash card slot and one SD card. I do still have working Compact Flash cards and a reader, but if they died the camera still supports SD, which will be with us for probably a decade at least because of how widespread it is.


Outmoded or not, I will take the Compact Flash/CFast form factor over the SD form factor any day. The cards are larger, more robust, and easier to handle in the field with (or without) gloves on.

I consider SD a modern nuisance to be endured, rather than an advance in usability.



Apr 29, 2024 at 09:59 AM
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I specialize in Food and Lifestyle images and work on a tripod for 75% of my work. I bought two new 5DIV's when the R was announced because it didn't seem like a pro body. Since then, I have a full range of EF L lenses and the R lenses are so expensive but I can always add an adapter for use on an R body. Recently, I bought a used 1Dx because I missed my old one and thought that $600 for one with 32K shots on it was a great price. I say buy the 1DxII and enjoy it, I like how mine feels in my hand and the files still work for me.


Apr 29, 2024 at 10:28 AM
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Used prices for the 1DXII and R6 are very similar around $1k so it comes down to your preferences and what you plan to shoot with it. Being nearly the same price, you get a lot more features and performance out of the R6 but depending on what you shoot it might not matter. The 1DXII is a robust tank, heavier, with amazing battery life. The R6 is much smaller/lighter with average battery life. I'm sure you know the differences between the cameras, but the R6 brings a lot more to the table. With that said, there's nothing wrong with wanting a 1DXII and shooting with it. If you haven't shot with ML yet you don't really know what you are missing so I'm sure you will be very happy with the 1DXII. Both can produce amazing images, but the R6 just makes it easier to capture those amazing images. I thought I was going to hold onto my 1DXII and 1DXIII when I bought into ML, but I ended up selling them both. If someone took away my ML gear and forced me to shoot sports with the 1DXII I would be perfectly happy with that body and going back to shooting the old fashioned way


Apr 29, 2024 at 11:00 AM
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garyvot wrote:
To be honest, I have felt a bit hampered by autofocus at times.

Full frame subject tracking on mirrorless maybe changes things, but with traditional AF, I always felt there was a high "cognitive load" in managing AF points. Too often, either I failed, or the camera did (for lack of accurate outside AF points), causing me to place things in the center of the frame.

I think that managing AF points requires more "cognitive effort" which takes away from the act of composition. Focusing manually (when I was using MF film SRLs) felt more intuitive. It distracted less from what I
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Absolutely

Af point management definitely hurts creativity, and even the touch screens, you can't get it exact and wind up focusing and recomposing, though to a lesser degree

I definitely prefer macro lenses having af, but even there kinda nice once focus broke. Could put the composition more how I wanted it, freed from af pounts





Apr 30, 2024 at 03:13 PM
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Just an update for those who might care and for anyone who might find themselves in the same situation. I did a lot of thinking and took into consideration all advice received. Plus did more independent research into all the mirrorless stuff i've been missing out on. I've decided it is NOT a good idea to get an outdated camera just for the sake of satisfying a nostalgia kick. Instead, I've decided on a R6 Mark II with battery grip, extra battery and dual memory cards that I will be ordering when BH opens again on Sunday morning. I plan to use my EF lenses for the time being so I ordered the adapter from Amazon since BH had it on backorder.

So I guess I'm joining the mirrorless master race after all.



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Max_Pain wrote:
Just an update for those who might care and for anyone who might find themselves in the same situation. I did a lot of thinking and took into consideration all advice received. Plus did more independent research into all the mirrorless stuff i've been missing out on. I've decided it is NOT a good idea to get an outdated camera just for the sake of satisfying a nostalgia kick. Instead, I've decided on a R6 Mark II with battery grip, extra battery and dual memory cards that I will be ordering when BH opens again on Sunday morning. I plan
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Haha, good for you.

That's exactly the body I landed on when I moved on from my 1DX Mark IIs after a short trial period with the original R6.

I think you will come to love the capabilities of the camera, but I will say there is a bit of a learning curve in understanding the autofocus system and all the additional options and features available. There's also a bit of a mental reset required to embrace subject tracking.

In any case, don't hesitate to post about your experience. I think you'll find lots of help here to get through the transition, if you need any.



May 17, 2024 at 11:18 PM
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Max_Pain wrote:
I borrowed this camera from CPS years ago when it cost $8,000 and I loved it. I know it's heavy. I know it's bulky. I like the heft and don't mind the bulk. I like the 14FPS, I like the AF speeds, I like the F8 autofocusing, etc etc etc.
I don't see any for sale at the moment but in previous sales they went between $900-$1100...which just boggles the mind how such a camera can go for so little.
I can't afford nor need the 1Dx Mark III and I'm not looking to go mirrorless.
Is there any reason not to get
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Just watch out for Canon's end of life announcements. They support cameras and lenses for some years after they stop selling them, but eventually they call them end-of-life, and stop making parts for them. If the 1DX II has passed end-of-life, and you buy one, and something breaks, you may have to look for another broken one to find parts to repair yours.



May 18, 2024 at 06:22 AM
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I'm a mirrorless fan but I personally love the heft and feeling of the 1DXII. Great AF, fast shooter. It does take excellent video, but that was in Canon's clunky/awkward video stage.

Given where the prices are, I think they represent a great value.



May 18, 2024 at 09:44 AM
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Thanks to OP for this thread. I have a complete Canon system but am only using the lenses. The 1Ds was my main shooter for 10 years, and still works, but has been shelved since 2015. The 1 Series was always the most comfortable body in my hand—even more than the single-digit Nikons. While the B&H deal is really enticing, I see multiple Mk2 deals on eBay for $1500. I'll probably let them percolate for a week or three, then pull the trigger. The only thing I would want from the Mk3 is the fancy AA filter, and the cost bump for that is hard to justify.


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