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Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180


Iím considering a 35-150 as Iím getting back into portraits/dog shoots for a local humane society and something longer than my Sony 85 1.8 would be good to have. Shooting on an A7iv. For a 50, I also only have a Sony f/1.8, so an all in one 35-150 would be awesome for shallow dof dog portraits. My question is about the AF, though, as I want to be able to do some action shots as well. Iíve tried this a little with my 85, just leaving the camera in continuous eye af and firing away, and got some keepers. How is the animal eye af with the 35-150, and is all that extra glass going to make a big difference compared to something like the Tamron 70-180? Unfortunately, a GM 70-200 is out of my price range. Iím hoping to transition to shooting more dogs on my own, but for now Iím just helping out and getting some experience.

Also, does anyone have a link to a zoom range/aperture breakdown on the 35-150?



Mar 30, 2024 at 10:59 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180


The 35-150 is already at 2.8 by 85mm, so for anything longer the maximum aperture is the same as the 70-180. Here is what The Digital Picture found:

35-38mm = f/2
39-58mm = f/2.2
59-79mm = f/2.5
80-150mm = f/2.8

I have the 35-150 and 70-180 G2 and the AF is great on both. I would steer you towards the 70-180 because of the extra reach and because it is lighter and less expensive. The image stabilization is a nice addition as well for peace of mind, though not as relevant for action shots with high shutter speeds. The 35-150 only makes sense if you need to shoot wider than your 85 often for this purpose.



Mar 30, 2024 at 12:12 PM
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ketang wrote:
The 35-150 is already at 2.8 by 85mm, so for anything longer the maximum aperture is the same as the 70-180. Here is what The Digital Picture found:

35-38mm = f/2
39-58mm = f/2.2
59-79mm = f/2.5
80-150mm = f/2.8

I have the 35-150 and 70-180 G2 and the AF is great on both. I would steer you towards the 70-180 because of the extra reach and because it is lighter and less expensive. The image stabilization is a nice addition as well for peace of mind, though not as relevant for action shots with high shutter speeds. The 35-150 only makes sense if
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Well, the 35-150mm has a slight aperture advantage at 70-79mm, and in cases 58mm can work just as well as 70mm that advantage is even a little bigger. 2 thirds of a stop makes a difference for your shutter speeds, which can be useful shooting moving dogs.



Mar 30, 2024 at 01:11 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180


Yeah so Iím basically thinking of how great it would be to have a fast 35 or 50 just a touch away from a mid tele. Most dogs donít pose the way a human would, so I think it could be great to have all those focal lengths in one. If AF is fast enough (I realize I wonít be getting GM performance) and is as good as the 70-180, Iím inclined to go with the 35-150.

Is it handholdable with one hand though? Iím often keeping the other hand free for noise makers (to get the dog to look), or may start trying to hold a flash.



Mar 30, 2024 at 02:39 PM
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Jimi3 wrote:
Yeah so Iím basically thinking of how great it would be to have a fast 35 or 50 just a touch away from a mid tele. Most dogs donít pose the way a human would, so I think it could be great to have all those focal lengths in one. If AF is fast enough (I realize I wonít be getting GM performance) and is as good as the 70-180, Iím inclined to go with the 35-150.

Is it handholdable with one hand though? Iím often keeping the other hand free for noise makers (to get the dog to look),
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I just tried one-handed shooting with this combo. It works for a couple shots, but I would never want to do this for more than a minute or two. You might be more 'hearty' than me, however.



Mar 30, 2024 at 02:48 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180


I have both the 35-150 and 70-180 lenses. (portrait shooter)
The 35-150 is quite a bit heavier, but sharper.
I first purchased the 70-180 after having problems with the weight of the 70-200GM lenses and it was a great relief. Now I'm torn between the lighter 70-180 lens, and the better IQ 35-150 - but I'm quite likely going to sell my 70-180 and just deal with the heavier lens.



Mar 30, 2024 at 03:29 PM
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InFocus2014 wrote:
I just tried one-handed shooting with this combo. It works for a couple shots, but I would never want to do this for more than a minute or two. You might be more 'hearty' than me, however.

I think I should go and check one out before committing. It may be too long and heavy for me too. Iíve been using all smallish primes so far, and one hand on the A7iv has been no problem.



Mar 30, 2024 at 05:04 PM
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KE_Photo wrote:
I have both the 35-150 and 70-180 lenses. (portrait shooter)
The 35-150 is quite a bit heavier, but sharper.
I first purchased the 70-180 after having problems with the weight of the 70-200GM lenses and it was a great relief. Now I'm torn between the lighter 70-180 lens, and the better IQ 35-150 - but I'm quite likely going to sell my 70-180 and just deal with the heavier lens.


How is does the AF compare between the Tamron? Ever shoot moving subjects?



Mar 30, 2024 at 05:05 PM
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Jimi3 wrote:
How is does the AF compare between the Tamron? Ever shoot moving subjects?


Sorry, I haven't done action with these two. Both are pretty snappy for my (portrait/event) needs.



Mar 30, 2024 at 05:10 PM
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Jimi3 wrote:
I think I should go and check one out before committing. It may be too long and heavy for me too. Iíve been using all smallish primes so far, and one hand on the A7iv has been no problem.


I think youíll notice a big difference in weight between your primes and the 35-150. I cannot see you shooting one handed with the 35-150. Also, how would you zoom one handed? I really see zero benefits with a zoom in your caseÖespecially if you truly shoot one handed.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180


Jimi3 wrote:
Yeah so Iím basically thinking of how great it would be to have a fast 35 or 50 just a touch away from a mid tele. Most dogs donít pose the way a human would, so I think it could be great to have all those focal lengths in one. If AF is fast enough (I realize I wonít be getting GM performance) and is as good as the 70-180, Iím inclined to go with the 35-150.

Is it handholdable with one hand though? Iím often keeping the other hand free for noise makers (to get the dog to look),
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You can't zoom when using one hand, so if that's the requirement you might want to go with primes?



Mar 30, 2024 at 05:37 PM
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steamtrain wrote:
You can't zoom when using one hand, so if that's the requirement you might want to go with primes?


Yeah, Iím not shooting one handed all the time, but good point nonetheless. The lens may be too heavy, and it may be a clunky process anyway.



Mar 30, 2024 at 09:55 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180


Jimi3 wrote:
Yeah, Iím not shooting one handed all the time, but good point nonetheless. The lens may be too heavy, and it may be a clunky process anyway.


I think you should hire the lens to find out if there's another approach working for you. It's quite well possible you can easily adjust your way of shooting to a heavier lens, but nobody on a forum could tell you that.
The 70-180mm might be less heavy, but I don't see myself shooting at 180mm with just one hand, because it's a pretty long focal length for that.
I don't know how much reach you need, but my 50mm f/1.2 GM is my best focusing FE lens, and I can see my self shooting that kind of weight and that kind of focal length single handed. It's quite expensive though.



Mar 31, 2024 at 04:46 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180


I have owned both lenses. I have done some dog photos in dog playgrounds and for that kind of shooting a longer lens is better. I think the same goes for animal portraits. The 70-180 is considerably lighter, less chunky and less expensive than the 35-180 lens. They are both fast and IQ is good on both. I would chose the 35-150 only if I needed to shoot wide often, which does not seem to be needed for dog portraits or action photos.
There is a long series of posts and photos on the 35-150, so you might consider looking through the photos, to see what they are using it for.



Mar 31, 2024 at 06:57 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180


I have the 70-200 2.8 GM II and it's one of if not the sharpest lens I've ever owned. But for portrait stuff, it stays in the bag as a backup to the 35-150. It's extremely versatile, sharp, accurate and while a bit heavier, it just works for me. At this point, I can't imagine working portrait sessions, whether in the studio or in the field, without it. And just because it's a zoom, doesn't mean you need to always use the zoom function. Set it at 50 or 35 or whatever if you need to shoot one-handed. I've never understood people saying a zoom has a weakness in that way. You don't need to use it as a zoom. But a prime can never be a zoom.


Mar 31, 2024 at 10:14 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180


I love my 35-150, but as others have said, I don't know how practical it would be for shooting one handed; it's heavy and somewhat long. Again though, it's a wonderful lens with good speed and a very useful range.


Mar 31, 2024 at 11:17 AM
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timgangloff wrote:
I have the 70-200 2.8 GM II and it's one of if not the sharpest lens I've ever owned. But for portrait stuff, it stays in the bag as a backup to the 35-150. It's extremely versatile, sharp, accurate and while a bit heavier, it just works for me. At this point, I can't imagine working portrait sessions, whether in the studio or in the field, without it. And just because it's a zoom, doesn't mean you need to always use the zoom function. Set it at 50 or 35 or whatever if you need to shoot one-handed. I've never
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If you donít use it as a zoomÖwhatís the advantage. It is a tank of a lens if you use it stuck at 35 f2. Does not make any sense to me.



Mar 31, 2024 at 11:24 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Tamron 35-150 AF vs 70Ė180


I shot some off road moto events with the 35-150. I thought it did great even tracking bikes back lit and coming at me 35-40mph.
Other than its weight, I thought it was a fantastic match for event work. Even so, I hiked over six miles of rough terrain carrying it.




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Mar 31, 2024 at 12:42 PM
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Nice, sounds like the consensus is af is pretty good. I think Iíll bring my camera to Huntís and see if theyíll let me play with one. Having never handled one, itís hard to say whether itíll be practical. I donít think I even have any lenses of similar weight to experiment with.
TimCC wrote:
I shot some off road moto events with the 35-150. I thought it did great even tracking bikes back lit and coming at me 35-40mph.
Other than its weight, I thought it was a fantastic match for event work. Even so, I hiked over six miles of rough terrain carrying it.




Mar 31, 2024 at 08:39 PM
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chez wrote:
If you donít use it as a zoomÖwhatís the advantage. It is a tank of a lens if you use it stuck at 35 f2. Does not make any sense to me.


Um, because he said he might try to shoot one handed at times, and for those times he can set it to his preferred focal length. It's really not rocket science. And then when he can shoot with both hands, he has a zoom.



Mar 31, 2024 at 10:49 PM
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