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Desmolicious wrote:
The key are the lenses, the ability to focus and the scanning. The Rollei A110 has a fantastic Tessar lens that you can focus, and it has really good auto exposure. Same for the Pentax Auto 110.
I then scan them as carefully as I do with any of my other formats using my Z7 (D750 and D850 in the past). I don't do anything different - I just treat them the same as if I took them w a fancier camera.


It's good to know that you can get decent results with rigorous technique. No special scanning methods? You mean you're just using a 60mm lens on your ES-2 and using a tiny fraction of your sensor to scan that fingernail sized negative? Or do you have a bellows setup that allows you to go to 2:1?

Back in the day of one hour photo labs we were basically given garbage - whether we shot 110 or 35mm. I remember so often being excited to get my pics back, then so disappointed when I saw the throw away results. Even then I remember looking at the negatives and noticing they were totally fine.
Try scanning some of those old negs from 30+ years ago. You may be surprised as to what you actually have.



Bad color prints from the local labs are what got me interested in transparencies. With the tools available at the time slide film was the best way to avoid bad lab printing.



Apr 03, 2024 at 04:11 PM
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coralnut wrote:
It's good to know that you can get decent results with rigorous technique. No special scanning methods? You mean you're just using a 60mm lens on your ES-2 and using a tiny fraction of your sensor to scan that fingernail sized negative? Or do you have a bellows setup that allows you to go to 2:1?


Bad color prints from the local labs are what got me interested in transparencies. With the tools available at the time slide film was the best way to avoid bad lab printing.


I either use the 60G lens and crop, or I use the 60D lens and close up rings.



Apr 03, 2024 at 04:26 PM
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coralnut wrote:
It's good to know that you can get decent results with rigorous technique. No special scanning methods? You mean you're just using a 60mm lens on your ES-2 and using a tiny fraction of your sensor to scan that fingernail sized negative? Or do you have a bellows setup that allows you to go to 2:1?


Bad color prints from the local labs are what got me interested in transparencies. With the tools available at the time slide film was the best way to avoid bad lab printing.


We have followed a similar path. Bad prints led me to shooting slides too. I was always struck by how goods slides looked under a loupe - like a professional photo in a magazine - compared to the dull prints from mini labs. I find it ironic that I am getting better results today from film today with a home MILC scanning setup than I did when film was in its heyday.



Apr 03, 2024 at 05:32 PM
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Geoff D F wrote.. I find it ironic that I am getting better results today from film today with a home MILC scanning setup than I did when film was in its heyday.


Yup, I never knew it could be this good!



Apr 04, 2024 at 02:48 AM
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Today film can be really good when you're scanning with a digicam and viewing on a monitor.
But if you want prints it's not so simple today. I think that part is actually harder.



Apr 04, 2024 at 05:34 AM
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coralnut wrote:
Today film can be really good when you're scanning with a digicam and viewing on a monitor.
But if you want prints it's not so simple today. I think that part is actually harder.


No issues printing - better than before as my monitor is calibrated, I export in the resolution I want with the sharpening I want for the type of paper used. And I make sure to click on the magic "auto correct off" button if sending out to be printed.

That being said, I really want to wet print directly from B&W neg to paper again. Need to manifest that.



Apr 04, 2024 at 10:55 AM
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In another youtube review his camera shot 3-4 blanks on every ‘roll’.

Lomo said these cameras they handed out to reviewers were ‘prototypes’ and the issue has been fixed on the production ones. Still doesn’t give you the warm fuzzies as both LC-A 120s I owned had shutters that failed like that.
I know it’s not the same camera, but it is a Lomo product and perhaps is made by the same people.



Apr 04, 2024 at 11:04 PM
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No issues printing - ... I export in the resolution I want with the sharpening I want for the type of paper used. And I make sure to click on the magic "auto correct off" button if sending out to be printed.


That is an entire can of worms that I have not opened -- learning to balance resolution and sharpening for the size of the print and the type of printing stock. It's a bewildering proposition. Can you recommend any guides for getting started with that?



Apr 05, 2024 at 08:07 PM
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That is an entire can of worms that I have not opened -- learning to balance resolution and sharpening for the size of the print and the type of printing stock. It's a bewildering proposition. Can you recommend any guides for getting started with that?


I use LightRoom, and to print I always select 300 dpi and sharpening for matte paper when I export the files.

I am sure there are others here who are much better versed for printing, but what I do always turns out really well!



Apr 06, 2024 at 01:59 AM
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Pentax Auto 110, 18mm, Superia 200




Apr 22, 2024 at 12:03 PM
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Desmolicious wrote:
Why didn't anyone tell me about this? I love 110 film! Got a cr@p tonne of Fuji Superia in my freezer.
You can focus this camera and it has AE from 30 secs to 1/250! The flash is detachable. Sweet!

I also bet it doesn't scratch film...


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53615844819_d75b3b935c_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53615505041_e798680360_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53615505001_a2942db081_z.jpg


Are you actually able to get decent quality on 110, or just doing it for the grainy look or the fun of it or something?



Apr 23, 2024 at 09:03 AM
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AmbientMike wrote:
Are you actually able to get decent quality on 110, or just doing it for the grainy look or the fun of it or something?


All three.

It's all about the right tool for the job. But the primary reason I shoot 110 is for the fun of it.



Apr 23, 2024 at 10:57 AM
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The interesting thing is the less serious the camera, the more pics I take. I think it is because I am more relaxed. There has to be something to that.


Apr 23, 2024 at 12:52 PM
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Desmolicious wrote:
The interesting thing is the less serious the camera, the more pics I take. I think it is because I am more relaxed. There has to be something to that.


The video was very informative and it looks like a well designed camera. Since you live in an area that has strong daylight, do you use the flash?



Apr 23, 2024 at 01:30 PM
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The video was very informative and it looks like a well designed camera. Since you live in an area that has strong daylight, do you use the flash?


I bought a whole box of flash cubes for the Rollei - and they work surprisingly well! They also blind you the photographer when you take a pic as there is lots of light 'bleed'. The cubes naturally get hot.. it really was a blast from the past sensation, much more than just using an old camera!
But no, I don't normally use flash (even though I have the electronic flash for the Pentax Auto 110 as well). Pretty much exclusively use them as daylight cameras.

I'm just worried about the apparent film transport glitches on the Lomomatic... and some of the images the shutter did not work. That seems to be a thing with Lomo cameras in my experience.



Apr 23, 2024 at 02:45 PM
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Desmolicious wrote:
I bought a whole box of flash cubes for the Rollei - and they work surprisingly well! They also blind you the photographer when you take a pic as there is lots of light 'bleed'. The cubes naturally get hot.. it really was a blast from the past sensation, much more than just using an old camera!
But no, I don't normally use flash (even though I have the electronic flash for the Pentax Auto 110 as well). Pretty much exclusively use them as daylight cameras.

I'm just worried about the apparent film transport glitches on the Lomomatic... and some of the
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I've got a DianaF and a Sardina both with broken shutters...



Apr 23, 2024 at 02:54 PM
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I've got a DianaF and a Sardina both with broken shutters...


Shutters failed on both my LC-A 120s - and those are $500 cameras. And both maybe had 10 rolls of film through them. My LC-W - which truly is an awesome camera - couple of blank images on my last roll which to say the least is worrisome.

So this new Lomomatic 110, for $110-$150, that has a few testers reporting blank shots. Brand new. Is very worrisome to me.
Not to mention some mentioned film transport issues.



Apr 24, 2024 at 10:56 AM
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I can understand Lomo not making a big investment in their shutters since most of the cameras are used a for several rolls then stashed away when the user moves on to the next shiny thing. With that being said, there is no reason not to design and build a shutter to operate properly for a minimum of a hundred rolls. Better springs and nylon gears would help. There are enough serious photographers who would use them but are hesitant to spend several hundred dollars on a unrepairable camera with a reputation for having an iffy lifespan.


Apr 24, 2024 at 03:06 PM
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The thing is some of these cameras are not cheap so there is no excuse. Apart from the obvious milking as much out of their customers as they can..


Apr 24, 2024 at 04:53 PM
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