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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · which point and shoot?


What do you all recommend for a point and shoot with flash. Best bang for your buck 35mm film point and shoot?


Mar 11, 2024 at 12:13 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · which point and shoot?


See if I can beat Huss to the punch (assuming he agrees...) Samsung AF Slim Zoom. I've bought two for $20 each in very good condition on eBay. Both work great. I would encourage you to read this thread. https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1823510?b=2

The camera has a lot of great features, good lens, snap focus and flash flexibility.



Mar 11, 2024 at 09:16 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · which point and shoot?


Yup, the Samsung AF Slim Zoom is great! Love using mine and you should be able to get one in the $20-$30 range.
I've mentioned this before, but I'll do it again.. there are soooo many similarly named Samsungs. The two to get are the Samsung AF Slim. And/or the Samsung AF Slim Zoom.

Ignore the AF Slim R - it is a crappy cheaper version of the AF Slim. And the AF Slim Zoom is the one with the 35-70mm lens. With P&S cameras, the longer the zoom lens, the lower the image quality will be when zooming out.

Other manufacturers also make really good P&S cameras - but there are soooo many variants that you can get lost! The Pentax Espio lineup is good etc. The way I would shop it is either get the Samsung, or set yourself a price point - $30 and under for example - and see what pops up. Then research the ones with either a fixed focal length lens, or a short zoom as those will be the best ones.



Mar 11, 2024 at 10:52 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · which point and shoot?


Maybe not the most "bang for buck", but I'm a big proponent of the Fujifilm Klasse S.

It's very new by film P&S standard, having been released in 2007. Thanks to the recency it's very reliable with none of the common defects plaguing P&S from the 90s or earlier.

It has a great modern lens, custom functions (leader out, yay!), flash, reliable meter and AF, program and aperture priority auto exposure modes, and manual focus options.

I also like that it has two regular strap lugs so you can use it with a normal neck strap or peak design anchor links, which I do.

It's certainly on the pricey side, but I'd argue it's money well spent for the reliability and modern features.



Mar 11, 2024 at 02:26 PM
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oscartb wrote:
Maybe not the most "bang for buck", but I'm a big proponent of the Fujifilm Klasse S.

It's very new by film P&S standard, having been released in 2007. Thanks to the recency it's very reliable with none of the common defects plaguing P&S from the 90s or earlier.

It has a great modern lens, custom functions (leader out, yay!), flash, reliable meter and AF, program and aperture priority auto exposure modes, and manual focus options.

I also like that it has two regular strap lugs so you can use it with a normal neck strap or peak design anchor links,
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Sorry, mine died - belly up. Long thread about it. The dreaded failed ribbon cable thing that effects all these fancy point and shoots.

Took awesome pics when it worked...



Mar 11, 2024 at 03:31 PM
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Desmolicious wrote:
Sorry, mine died - belly up. Long thread about it. The dreaded failed ribbon cable thing that effects all these fancy point and shoots.

Took awesome pics when it worked...


Probably a better phrasing on my part should have been that it takes longer for the issues to happen since the camera has a few less decades on it.

I'm not 100% sure if you can have the ribbon flex cable replaced. I've had it done recently for my Ricoh GR1s that has the ribbon cable problem. There are techs who service the Contax T2/3 and a few other P&S, but I'm not sure if the Klasse S is in the serviceable group.

I will be sure to enjoy my Klasse S while it lasts, hopefully for a long time



Mar 11, 2024 at 04:56 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · which point and shoot?


My suggestion though it is not really a P&S, would be an EOS 300X, with EF 40mm f2.8 pancake. Nothing beats TTL viewing, the AF is fast and accurate, the lens is awesome, and the "scene" modes allow it to be used as a P&S, while you still retain PASM modes. Not quite as small as most P&Ss but not that big either.


Mar 11, 2024 at 05:55 PM
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oscartb wrote:
Probably a better phrasing on my part should have been that it takes longer for the issues to happen since the camera has a few less decades on it.

I'm not 100% sure if you can have the ribbon flex cable replaced. I've had it done recently for my Ricoh GR1s that has the ribbon cable problem. There are techs who service the Contax T2/3 and a few other P&S, but I'm not sure if the Klasse S is in the serviceable group.

I will be sure to enjoy my Klasse S while it lasts, hopefully for a long time


This got me searching for someone who might repair the broken (E02 error) Leica Minilux I inherited from my grandpa. A couple of years ago there was no-one who did that here in Germany but now I actually found a shop in Stuttgart who does these repairs. Not exactly cheap but Ill probably do it that 40mm Summarit is worth it 😉




Mar 12, 2024 at 12:20 PM
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Geoff D F wrote:
My suggestion though it is not really a P&S, would be an EOS 300X, with EF 40mm f2.8 pancake. Nothing beats TTL viewing, the AF is fast and accurate, the lens is awesome, and the "scene" modes allow it to be used as a P&S, while you still retain PASM modes. Not quite as small as most P&Ss but not that big either.


I was going to suggest the same thing. These late model EOS SLRs can be bought for next to nothing. I bought mine for 25 and it is like new. The 40mm lens is around 100 but produces superb image quality. The total package is a similar size to most P&S cameras.



Mar 15, 2024 at 04:24 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · which point and shoot?


andrewd01 wrote:
I was going to suggest the same thing. These late model EOS SLRs can be bought for next to nothing. I bought mine for 25 and it is like new. The 40mm lens is around 100 but produces superb image quality. The total package is a similar size to most P&S cameras.


Oh c'mon!

My N80 which is similar size as the EOS - with the smallest lens I have - the 45mm 2.8 AI-P.
Compared to the Samsung AF Slim Zoom:





One you can slip into your pocket. The other is the SLR.



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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · which point and shoot?


I also love the Samsung AF Slim Zoom. Got mine for $20 in great condition. Works great and I've been posting imges from it here on FM on the film thread. Love the snap mode for quick snaps so you don't miss a thing.


Mar 16, 2024 at 07:22 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · which point and shoot?


Samsung AF Slim on ebay - US/California.

This is the most desired one - with the fixed 35mm 3.5 lens. A superb, albeit noisy, camera.


AF Slim



Apr 04, 2024 at 03:32 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · which point and shoot?


Desmolicious wrote:
Oh c'mon!

My N80 which is similar size as the EOS - with the smallest lens I have - the 45mm 2.8 AI-P.
Compared to the Samsung AF Slim Zoom:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53590384189_6963a17029_z.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53590512350_55c5055457_z.jpg

One you can slip into your pocket. The other is the SLR.


Well I guess photos don't lie. If you are really intent on carry a camera in your pockets then a P&S and rather loose pockets are the only way to go. I have found in practice I inevitably carry any camera (other than phone) in shoulder bag at which point the size difference becomes moot.



Apr 04, 2024 at 09:47 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · which point and shoot?


In the heyday of film I still carried a somewhat large and boxy P&S in a shoulder bag or a fanny pack. The bag wasn't much larger than the camera but it did allow me to carry a couple of rolls of film with the camera.

Even with a bag, there's still a big difference between carrying a boxy but flat P&S vs an SLR with a pancake lens. For everyday carry the flatness of the P&S always wins.

The only exceptions to the shoulder bag or fanny pack for me were the Olympus XA and the original Infinity Stylus. Those were small enough that I carried them in a tiny flip top holster that slid onto my belt.

I gave up loose pocket carry and went to a holster or a bag when some flexing of the XA with it's mounted flash ruined the contacts between the XA and it's screw-on flash unit. Once I lost the XA flash I ended up buying the Stylus for it's integrated flash.



Apr 05, 2024 at 07:55 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · which point and shoot?


Desmolicious wrote:
Samsung AF Slim on ebay - US/California.

This is the most desired one - with the fixed 35mm 3.5 lens. A superb, albeit noisy, camera.

AF Slim


Everybody please look away as I want to buy this camera. ;-)



Apr 05, 2024 at 08:39 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · which point and shoot?


The AF Slim looks similar to the Leica Mini and Minolta Freedom Escort QD


Apr 05, 2024 at 10:28 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · which point and shoot?


geekcop wrote:
Everybody please look away as I want to buy this camera. ;-)


It's why I posted it here. These come up very rarely. The crappy Slim-R version is always available.



Apr 05, 2024 at 11:34 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · which point and shoot?


I know. Just kidding. I'll bid and see what happens.


Apr 05, 2024 at 12:19 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · which point and shoot?


I'm using a Canon Sleek that cost me $40 basically brand new. There is a switch for flash to keep it turned off.
The triplet lens that canon put in all of it's owl and underwater P&S camera. It's center sharp with typical fall off / vingetting.

I had an Olympus mju 35/2.8 for years and I hated having to turn the flash off everytime I opened it up. So I could care less about losing a stop on this Canon.







Apr 05, 2024 at 01:23 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · which point and shoot?


Post pics from that SS Sleek! never heard of it, which also pretty much tells you how many zillions of diff p&s cameras were made!


Apr 06, 2024 at 02:10 AM
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