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Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4

  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


Hey, just a general question for anyone that uses these...if shooting primarily on Z, would you think these lenses are worth their prices in 2024?

There's no Z analog to the 35, and that one interests me the most...and the 28 output look amazing, but I have an even bigger issue spending that much if it's an "obvious" step down in the way that some F lenses can be compared to Z...but again, there's no Z analog. I know the Z 35/1.2 is coming...whenever...but that's not a lens I necessarily want to have 1.2 size all the time for edge case shooting.

It's insane to me that Nikon is selling them still for almost $2000 each, but the used prices are VERY attractive. Thanks for any input in advance.



Feb 17, 2024 at 08:16 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


Both are very attractive at their current used prices. I've only owned/used the 35/1.4 (shooting on a D3 then a D800/E). That lens has the smooothest focus transition and most gentle bokeh I've ever seen on a lens wider than 50mm. The 28mmE interests me because there's no high performance native Z mount 28mm available for Z, either from Nikon or CV. I'd rather have a good manual focus Z native CV 28mm, personally. Also, both of these lenses are large, and using them with the FTZ would make them longer and somewhat awkward IMO. On the positive side, the manual focus action is mechanical, so there's that.


Feb 17, 2024 at 09:17 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


Iíll echo your comment about the attractiveness of the used prices. Iíd be shocked if the 35mm f1.4 wasnít fantastic on Z mount. The F mount gear is getting to a point that itís very hard to justify Z mount prices.


Feb 17, 2024 at 09:38 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


I'd go with 28 1.4E. One of the few F-mount lenses I regret selling.


Feb 17, 2024 at 09:57 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


Keith B. wrote:
Both are very attractive at their current used prices. I've only owned/used the 35/1.4 (shooting on a D3 then a D800/E). That lens has the smooothest focus transition and most gentle bokeh I've ever seen on a lens wider than 50mm. The 28mmE interests me because there's no high performance native Z mount 28mm available for Z, either from Nikon or CV. I'd rather have a good manual focus Z native CV 28mm, personally. Also, both of these lenses are large, and using them with the FTZ would make them longer and somewhat awkward IMO. On the positive side,
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The 35/1.4 G is the same length (FTZ included) as the Zony 35/1.4. Nikon setup is 100g more but with less optical gotchas and better rendering.

The Canon setup with adapter and 35/1.4 II is just stupid long compared to either.

(We're ignoring the 35GM since that lens is a cheat code and in a different price bracket).

I don't think the Nikon adapted setup is all that much bigger/bulkier than any other setup except what the Z 35/1.2 will be and what the Sony 35GM is.



Feb 17, 2024 at 10:00 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


The 28 1.4E and 105 1.4E were the last two F mount lenses that I sold before going full native and I regret selling them both.


Feb 17, 2024 at 10:32 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


I've never owned the 35mm f1.4G, but I've been tempted numerous times by relatively cheap used prices. I have the 28mm f1.4E and have no plans to sell it. Personally I find the bokeh of the 28mm to be smoother from what I can see vs the different 35mm samples out there. The 28mm is pretty sharp too. I'm a little partial to the more interesting 28mm focal length, but that's a personal view of course.

You could probably get 2 of each for the price of the 35mm f1.2S when it comes out.......it's a good time to pick up these great portrait lenses.



Feb 17, 2024 at 11:17 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


Unless the value that you need to attribute to any risk associated with buying used gear is really high, I'd go for the used F mount lenses in this case. You may have a chance to buy a refurbished lens from Nikon or from a camera store, which allows you to reduce that risk while paying a little bit more.

Many F mount lenses are technically inferior to their Z mount counterparts. But they are still very good optically, and if you a looking for the rendering offered by these lenses, they are well worth the price.



Feb 17, 2024 at 11:18 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


The refurb prices even during sales are asinine compared to the forum prices.

AcuteShadows wrote:
Unless the value that you need to attribute to any risk associated with buying used gear is really high, I'd go for the used F mount lenses in this case. You may have a chance to buy a refurbished lens from Nikon or from a camera store, which allows you to reduce that risk while paying a little bit more.

Many F mount lenses are technically inferior to their Z mount counterparts. But they are still very good optically, and if you a looking for the rendering offered by these lenses, they are well worth the price.




Feb 17, 2024 at 11:23 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


RoamingScott wrote:
The refurb prices even during sales are asinine compared to the forum prices.



Sure. But the risk of getting a defective product is probably the same as for a new lens.




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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


To me, the 35 1.4G isn't about sharpness so much as a certain look that Nikon tended towards in the earlier 1.4G primes. If you can appreciate the look and aren't pixel peeping for the highest resolution, it's delivers beautiful images. Whatever the Z 35mm 1.2 ends up being, it definitely won't have the same soul as the 1.4G and will likely be larger than the 35 1.4G+FTZ.

The 28mm 1.4E is a more contemporary lens, released at (arguably) the height of F-mount lens design, it seems to strike a rare balance of resolution and character. The image thread for the lens illustrates this pretty well. I'd be ecstatic if Nikon just rehoused the optical design of the 28E in native Z mount...

No way I'd buy either lens new, as you can find excellent used copies for well below 50% of MSRP!



Feb 17, 2024 at 11:53 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


I always said Iíd keep the 28, 58, 105 1.4 lenses but I let the 28 go and I really wish I had kept it. I used to often set my D850 to 1.2 crop mode to frame it as an approximate 35mm and really liked the output.
Iím doubtful I will get it again as I just donít use the 28/35mm range as much as the 50mm but itís a stellar lens.



Feb 18, 2024 at 08:43 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


It's interesting how many people seem to regret selling off the 28. It's not a length I use all that much, but as used prices continue to slip, no reason not to pick up some of the best-in-class F lenses.

The 35 can be had for $500-600, seems like a no brainer. They just don't come up all that often.



Feb 18, 2024 at 10:25 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


I love the look I get from the 28 1.4E with the z9. I have no issues using any glass with adapters if it gives me the IQ I am looking for and the 28 is at the top of my list.


Feb 18, 2024 at 10:47 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


I know it is sacrilege, but I use a Canon EF 35 f/1.4L II with an adapter and like it a lot on Z cameras. I may get the F mount 28 f/1.4E, which looks to be a great lens too, but I wanted a fast 35mm lens and I am quite happy with the Canon lens.


Feb 18, 2024 at 11:40 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


Steve Spencer wrote:
I know it is sacrilege, but I use a Canon EF 35 f/1.4L II with an adapter and like it a lot on Z cameras. I may get the F mount 28 f/1.4E, which looks to be a great lens too, but I wanted a fast 35mm lens and I am quite happy with the Canon lens.


That was THE 35mm back then...but lord, it's a beefy boy.

I still love the EF 135 over most other options for centered subjects.



Feb 18, 2024 at 11:42 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


I think yes! Both of these lenses are worth their prices. Simply because all of them are masterpieces and there are no replacements ahead. Z35/1.2 will be the next bulk, heavy, clinically sharp boring lens I think. I have no any illusions because of it.


Feb 19, 2024 at 09:23 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


I bought the Nikon 35mm 1.4g for 600euro in mint condition.
Lots of compromises if you compare it to the newer Sony 35mm's like Sigma or GM( owned and used both) like slower af and lots of CA , but you do get a wonderful focus transition which is unique in the 35mm af world.



Mar 06, 2024 at 03:38 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


GoroMajima wrote:
I bought the Nikon 35mm 1.4g for 600euro in mint condition.
Lots of compromises if you compare it to the newer Sony 35mm's like Sigma or GM( owned and used both) like slower af and lots of CA , but you do get a wonderful focus transition which is unique in the 35mm af world.


Nice! I'm over here ready to grab one but not one has come up for sale since making this post



Mar 06, 2024 at 03:43 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Question on F mount Nikon 28/1.4 and 35/1.4


Picked up a nice copy of the 35mm and boy howdy is it sharp and the bokeh is sublime. Why does new gear always show up on rainy days?

The weight and length of the lens with the FTZ is JUST on the good side of unbalanced on the Z9. I don't think I'd want to shoot this lens adapted to a smaller body. It will be interesting to see what the Z 35/1.2 offers.














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